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Giuliani starts strong in test of Republican voter allegiances
Washington Post ^ | march 4, 2007 | DAN BALZ

Posted on 03/03/2007 10:04:21 PM PST by FairOpinion

The man who was named Time magazine's "Person of the Year" for his response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is now leading in a slew of national polls and testing whether cultural and religious conservatives in the GOP will support a candidate who offers strong leadership on security and terrorism rather than ideological purity on social issues.

Whit Ayres, a Georgia-based Republican pollster, said he has been struck by the number of conservatives he encountered who disagree with Giuliani on abortion or gay rights but are still attracted to him as a possible Republican nominee. The issue is whether that appeal can survive through a long campaign in which Giuliani's New York record, his position on issues, his three marriages and his complex business dealings will be subjected to withering scrutiny.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll showed Giuliani leading McCain by 44 percent to 21 percent, with former House speaker Newt Gingrich at 15 percent and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney at 4 percent.

Many GOP strategists still question whether Giuliani can survive the scrutiny and develop a message that appeals to voters across the spectrum of Republican conservatism. In his speech Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Giuliani highlighted his record as a tax cutter, crime fighter and welfare reformer. But he offered little resembling a traditional conservative agenda for the future, other than saying the United States must remain on offense against terrorism. The speech won a polite but hardly enthusiastic response from the audience of activists.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: FairOpinion
it's a proven leader, strong on defending the country against terrorism, vs. treasonous Dems.

Then you're giving up without a fight, IMHO.

There are seveeral candidates who fill the bill, and are more conservative Republicans than Rudy.

You know what I think?

I think you're backing the odds on favorite because you're more interested in regaining power, and afraid of losing, so you're willing to set aside your principles on the hope that once Rudy gets in office you'll be able to affect changes from within.

You're playing the same old game that has always been played.

Business as usual.

121 posted on 03/03/2007 11:28:16 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: Blackirish
BI

Hate to jump in here. But, 'conservative values restored NY City'. I would have to disagree on some aspects of this.

Restricting the Fundamental Right to carry a firearm and such in NYC is not the proper way to bring down crime. That surely is a liberal idea.

However, tax cuts and pro-business ideas are all something we can support!
122 posted on 03/03/2007 11:28:19 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman (Hunter/Paul 08)
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To: mylife
The media wants us to buy into Gulliani and then they will devore him leaving us with nothing


123 posted on 03/03/2007 11:28:40 PM PST by Mojave
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To: FairOpinion
The objective in nominating the right Republican nominee is to nominate someone who can beat the Dem nominee. Do you think Ronald Reagan should have run as a Democrat, because he did beat his Dem opponents?

Giuliani is a Democrat but in name only. Reagan defined what it meaned to be Republican.

Giuliani ain't no Ronald Reagan.

124 posted on 03/03/2007 11:29:24 PM PST by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: mylife
Rudy WILL beat any Dem; that's what they are afraid of.

You loved all 8 years of Bill Clinton; just admit it.

125 posted on 03/03/2007 11:30:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mojave

rudy is going to sign that...that news was released today


126 posted on 03/03/2007 11:30:10 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: FairOpinion

That's a stretch. Ronald Reagan had led the conservative movement for years before being elected. He ran a solid conservative campaign against Gerald Ford. He had real credentials going back to the Goldwater campaign. Rudy has none of that. He has been a solid leftist for years. He has some rightward tendencies, very few of them, but he is not a conservative. You are attempting to compare the leader of contemporary conservatism, a ground breaking idealist, with an eastern liberal of dubious morality and integrity. It doesn't work. He may be acceptable to you. That's fine. But his views are closer to Arlen Specter's than Ronald Reagan's.

Your tone this thread is very condescending. You won't persuade anyone being that way. I've interacted with you and know we can be civil. My best to you.


127 posted on 03/03/2007 11:31:40 PM PST by Luke21
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To: dmw
Jim Webb did NOT run against Rick Santorum!

If you don't even know THAT much, why should anyone take you seriously?

128 posted on 03/03/2007 11:31:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: FairOpinion

We'll see. Most people I know have no beef of any kind with Mormons. Funny, it's Catholic Guiliani whose had three wives, and Mormon Romney whose had one.


129 posted on 03/03/2007 11:32:08 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: nopardons

...but he's far more CONSERVATIVE, on the most important matters, than Ron Paul, for one, is.



Please show me just how CONSERVATIVE Rudy is on the most important matters....cuz I just dont see it.

MM


130 posted on 03/03/2007 11:32:37 PM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: nopardons

Hehe Yup rudy beats all the dems. Its a shame that he basically is a Dem. where does that get us? Id atgue that Bill Clinton was as far right as Rudy


131 posted on 03/03/2007 11:32:39 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: airborne

"you're more interested in regaining power"

You bet I am.

Aren't YOU intersted in regaining power from the Democrats?


132 posted on 03/03/2007 11:33:35 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: Mojave
No, what I'm telling you is that N.Y.C. has at least one parade a week, from March through November and lots of "special" group celebrations throughout the year. And every single mayor pays homage to almost every single one of these things. There's now even a special day for Yorkie owners, for goodness sakes. LOL
133 posted on 03/03/2007 11:34:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: gpapa

Now you're just proving your provincialism; or is this an act?


134 posted on 03/03/2007 11:35:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

well..isnt that special?


135 posted on 03/03/2007 11:36:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Oh yeah, that's why she's a twice elected Senator....anyone can beat her.
136 posted on 03/03/2007 11:37:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: airborne
Name all the known candidates who can "fill the bill"; but, remember Newt and Thompson aren't running now.
137 posted on 03/03/2007 11:39:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yep. Rudy's beloved perverts began setting fire to buildings, including the Stonewall Inn itself, to draw police that they could then ambush.


138 posted on 03/03/2007 11:40:19 PM PST by Mojave
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To: gpapa

I'm a California Catholic who supports Rudy....there are many very very conservative people in CA who are supporting Rudy


139 posted on 03/03/2007 11:41:07 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: nopardons

Twice elected in NYC. Thats a "BIG" NYC
"
NYC aint Peroria


140 posted on 03/03/2007 11:41:28 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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