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1 posted on 03/07/2007 2:34:50 PM PST by qam1
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"...the last of the Silent Generation born before the end of World War II"

Silence is about the only thing no one has ever accused me of.

76 posted on 03/07/2007 7:07:12 PM PST by norton
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Age discrimination does happen.

When I was in my mid 40's, I had a female supervisor of about the same age. Some people collect baseball cards, some people collect stamps. She collected boy toys for her office. On one occasion, she put me on a particularly odious job instead of one of her 20-something pets. She told me right to my face, "that's no job for a young guy".

Maybe I should have sued the b***h.


82 posted on 03/07/2007 7:20:11 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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kent state = good start.


86 posted on 03/07/2007 7:37:48 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (proud sponsor of the "helmets for democrats" foundation)
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Sensitive to the dynamics, how about respecting her elders.

This 20 something was a loose cannon and a Hostile Work Environment Lawsuit waiting to happen. Her superiors should have seen her for the liability she became. She may have had the fire in the belly, but she had no wisdom behind it and no tact. The 55 yr old women strikes me as the type that kept the company running smoothly, an unsung hero.

88 posted on 03/07/2007 7:49:51 PM PST by taildragger
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I'm not big on how statist most baby boomers are, but being rude to someone like that isn't right.


112 posted on 03/07/2007 9:01:37 PM PST by mysterio
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What ever happened to "stick and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me" ???

My boomer parents taught me that!

137 posted on 03/08/2007 5:14:02 AM PST by xrp (Republicans Message: Vote for us, we suck less than Democrats.)
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Why is a government agency empowered to assess fines? An agency has been given some of the powers of the court system. This is wrong.


138 posted on 03/08/2007 5:18:43 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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the last of the Silent Generation born before the end of World War II

Ha! At least I ain't a Boomer!

142 posted on 03/08/2007 5:41:49 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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I tend to work with much older people (Baby Boomers and Silent Generation, mostly), and I find that they are easier to work with than most of my peers, and younger co-workers (X'ers and Gen Y's). Most of my peers fall into two categories; don't care about the job, or are on a power-trip to become management. Of the two the latter are the worst because they tend to treat everyone like this young woman manager treated the boomer worker. They are rude, arrogant, and hypocritical. I don't think the workplace is an appropriate environment to make such personal remarks (use ginko and turn up your hearing aid). It shows how much our culture is degrading. I personally would never say such things, even behind closed doors, but then again that's why I'm not management :-). Besides I can't get my head to be that pointy.

Cheers,
CSG
144 posted on 03/08/2007 5:53:03 AM PST by CompSciGuy (Duncan Hunter for 2008 - no flip-floppers or RINO's please...)
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Just another young babe doing what some women typically get away with in the workplace.

Good for the secretary for sticking it to her.


149 posted on 03/08/2007 6:30:23 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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How dumb can a manager be?

If Carolyn Arzino, the former longtime 55-year-old accounting secretary exhibited poor performance, than that should have been the focus of the young female supervisor's comments.

Because the female manager instead chose to focus on Arzino's age as she tried to deal with Arzino's performance, she only ended up giving Arzino ample evidence for an Age Discrimination Complaint.

Arzino's performance may, in fact, have been substandard, and may in fact have been so bad that she should have been fired.

But by making comments that Arzino should take ginkgo biloba and turn up the volume on her Miracle Ear, the young femal supervisor provided a third party with evidence that her firing of Arzino might have been based upon Arzino's age.

176 posted on 03/08/2007 9:37:21 AM PST by Bob Loblaw
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This wasn't very nice, but I'm not sure it was worthy of a suit (as I think there are too many suits anyway).

OK, maybe it was age discrimination based on the firing?

Because while the comments are brazen and cruel, they're just not any more worthy of lawsuit than any other insult. And this article seems to hang its hat on the insults.


179 posted on 03/08/2007 12:56:19 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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I tangled with a “Female” manager once. She wasn’t directly over me, but I had to interface with her. She claimed to have been a DBA yet wanted to do things that just aren’t possible (a relational database without unique keys…) I called her on it in a meeting, and she threw markers and an eraser at me and ran out of the room crying (I am NOT making this up)

She came to my cubicle later that day (I had been “At Work for over 36 hours) and wanted to “Talk to me” privately. I guess I was just too tired or too fed up, when she asked me why no one seemed to like her, I told her she used gender to her advantage and no one is going to respect her for it. We discussed her behavior in the meeting. I told her no male could get away with what she did. She wound up charging me with sexual harassment, she thought she had won and I would be cowed.

I was called to HR, listened to what they had to say, and said, OK, so now I never have to meet with her alone; I no longer have to talk to her directly if I can avoid it; I will never be on one of her projects; how do I lose? They did not appreciate my attitude. (Grin) so I asked them, how many people in the company has she accused of this (to which they looked surprised, but it was obvious I was not the first.) I then told them they should find out if she had charged others at the companies she had worked at before ours, because that would prove a pattern, to which they looked thoughtful. And then I said “I will not Back Down if sued this will go to court, and her past will be examined for this pattern with the power of discovery that I will then have, you can tell her that for me.” The HR director told me I was not to discuss this with anyone, especially her.

When I left HR, she was waiting in the hall; she held out her hand and said, “No hard feelings, OK?” I responded “about what?” She tried to get me to talk about it, I feigned Ignorance to the point of obnoxiousness. She kept trying to get me alone for meetings. (I assume so she could say I had harassed her) I kept bringing her VP.

She kept coming over and talking to me about it, in vague terms, I gave her “legally correct” answers yet was purposefully obtuse so she was saying way more than she intended to. After two days a bunch of the “guys” came over and stated that they thought she must have reported me to HR for harassment. I responded that I could neither confirm, nor deny their assertion. When she heard (through the grape vine), she blew her top and was came over to my cube, screaming at me in front of everyone telling me how she was going to take me and the company apart in court. HR came and took her away. They called me in later and the “Mood” was way more comfortable. They told me that her lawyer had come in and told her “Now they can get away with anything” and “you blew it” he told her my answer was acceptable before any court, and blowing her top and letting everyone in on the “Secret” was just dumb. She quit two months later.

Women can be great in the work place as long as they play fair, and Men need to play fair too. The problem is with the 1% who don’t play fair.


198 posted on 03/10/2007 3:03:05 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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