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Officers outgunned on U.S. border
washingtontimes ^ | 3/9/07 | jerry seper

Posted on 03/09/2007 5:24:38 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

Last month, Mexican military officials in Matamoros, just south of Brownsville, Texas, stopped a tractor-trailer containing weapons and ammunition, along with a pickup truck fitted with armor and bulletproof glass. The weapons included 18 M-16 assault rifles, one equipped with an M-203 40mm grenade launcher. Also seized were several M-4 carbines, 17 handguns of various calibers, 200 magazines for different weapons, 8,000 rounds of ammunition, assault vests and other military accessories.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; illegalaliens; invasionusa; waronsomedrugs; wod
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1 posted on 03/09/2007 5:24:39 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

So when does this turn into a border war?

Are the 'drug lords' a proxy for the mexican government?


2 posted on 03/09/2007 5:27:35 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

And President Bush will tell the US citizens to keep bending over and taking it.


3 posted on 03/09/2007 5:29:28 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I wonder who all that was intended for? Probably just self defense related items for some poor Mexicans.... /sarcasm


4 posted on 03/09/2007 5:29:28 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

"Keeping explosives and other high-powered weaponry out of the hands of violent criminal organizations is a central focus of the new Border Enforcement Security Task Force in Laredo," said Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Julie L. Myers, who heads ICE. "ICE is working day and night with its task force partners to stem the tide of violence that has been ravaging border communities in south Texas."

Interesting. Thanks for posting. More on Julie Myers here...http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2005/09/who_is_julie_my.html


5 posted on 03/09/2007 5:31:34 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Samurai_Jack
>> Are the 'drug lords' a proxy for the mexican government?

Proxy? The drug lords ARE the Mexican government.

6 posted on 03/09/2007 5:31:55 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Makes my blood boil!


7 posted on 03/09/2007 5:32:46 AM PST by mikethevike (We could use a little global warming up here in MN)
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To: freeangel
And President Bush will tell the US citizens to keep bending over and taking it.

That's exactly what I thought, reading the article I thought "OK, now where's the part that tells me what I'm supposed to start doing to make sure this state of affairs continues?"
8 posted on 03/09/2007 5:34:09 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

So why should illegal border invaders fear U.S. Border Patrol, when they know the Americans will prosecute their own people if they actually do their jobs?


9 posted on 03/09/2007 5:35:22 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

well solution is obvious

clearly an terrorist gunman gunrunner drugdealer gun buyback program has to be initiated

a massive legislation has to be passed where the criminals would not be allowed to carry firearms with a pistol handle

above all peace marches have to be organized and flowers have to be adorned by all


10 posted on 03/09/2007 5:40:13 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellumhttp://www.defense-update.com/images/GOLAN_URBAN.jpg)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; All
They had a show last night on TV regarding this... drug running on the border. All of the ranchers and most of the LEO's down there basically admit that the FedGov doesn't give a damn about the problem and that what you see supposedly "being done" is strictly a dog and pony show. I was amazed at how beaten down the ranchers are...they fear for their lives and only travel on their own land with high powered rifles at their side. It's amazing in this day and age... and 5+ years after 911... that this situation has not been corrected. When I see GWB get on TV and babble on and on about the WOT... it just rings hollow and is a discredit to our servicemen and women overseas fighting the good fight....while Rome burns at home.
11 posted on 03/09/2007 5:42:25 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Hey what gives with this article. Everybody knows Mexican drug dealers DON'T carry weapons.Don't take my word for it ask Johnny Sutton,he'll tell ya.This obviously is a rumor started by people on the Christian right !!!


12 posted on 03/09/2007 5:43:14 AM PST by Obie Wan
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To: Samurai_Jack

How soon before we are in a civil war because of the border?


13 posted on 03/09/2007 5:43:46 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: taxed2death

To make matters worse we're supposed to vote for candidates who refuse to acknowledge the situation.


14 posted on 03/09/2007 5:45:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Samurai_Jack

This has been a border war for several years. We're just not fighting. The "drug lords" apparently have a lot of influence in government on both sides of the border.


15 posted on 03/09/2007 5:48:37 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Samurai_Jack
So when does this turn into a border war?

In order for there to be a war, there has to be two sides fighting. Right now there is only one side that shows commitment. When it comes to the border, Our government looks even less than French. It's pathetic.

16 posted on 03/09/2007 5:50:06 AM PST by AIM-54
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To: Obie Wan

"Everybody knows Mexican drug dealers DON'T carry weapons."

Entirely due to mexicos good gun control laws.

/sarc


17 posted on 03/09/2007 5:52:38 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: Flavius
clearly an terrorist gunman gunrunner drugdealer gun buyback program has to be initiated

a massive legislation has to be passed where the criminals would not be allowed to carry firearms with a pistol handle

above all peace marches have to be organized and flowers have to be adorned by all

And don't forget midnight basketball on the border.
18 posted on 03/09/2007 5:53:12 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Samurai_Jack

No, but we are just anti immigrant racists for demanding that we don't get invaded and shot at by a proxy force of a weaker government that we can annihilate in a minute. Anyone who demands that our border be protected and the penetraters punished is just a racists./sarc off


19 posted on 03/09/2007 6:05:21 AM PST by red meat conservative
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To: Long Island Pete
How soon before we are in a civil war because of the border?

At 3:09 into this video, such a war has already been declared by the invaders:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9uH4XgOmI

20 posted on 03/09/2007 6:32:34 AM PST by InfraRed
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To: All
A few more interesting videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOuI9O4vYus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VSDiiRJMcg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL0QdHtVtkA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0fAa8b7dA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auo4shn_cJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kmTLk2Fgas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAUnA8bA4dg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCCVUot-hBo
21 posted on 03/09/2007 6:38:03 AM PST by InfraRed
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

bump


22 posted on 03/09/2007 6:41:07 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
And if a brown paper bag is spotted on the ground at any of our Airports, they call in the bomb squad..

Sleep tight, people..our Homeland Security team is on the job../sarc

23 posted on 03/09/2007 6:45:25 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Duncan Hunter 08 "Will you join us"?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Invasion.

Anyone who thinks that border security is a single issue is fooling themselves. The invasion across our southern border is so far-reaching as to potentially be a threat to the survival of the United States. Drugs, violent crime, terrorist infiltration, and the like are the tip of the iceburg.

Amnesty? Both the democrats and the republicants want to grant it, against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of American citizens. U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions' impact analysis shows the "immigration" model would permit up to 217.1 million new legal immigrants into the United States over the next 20 years, a number equal to 66 percent of the total current population of the United States. Even if the maximum levels are not reached, the increase to the U.S. population caused by S. 2611 will be at least 78.7 million in 20 years, just over 25 percent of the total current population.

Both parties think that they can secure greater political power through granting amnesty, but any thinking American knows the majority of the "New Americans" will vote democrat... and thus ensure liberal control of the House, Senate, presidency, and Supreme Court for the forseeable future.

I think that we are drawing ever closer to war along our southern border. The first shots are not likely to be taken by our military, but by private citizens who decide enough is enough. It is a shame that many of our elected leaders no longer consider themselves bound to the electorate or even to reason. Never before in the history of the United States have so many on Capitol Hill been so out of touch with the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Americans. Never before has our leadership been so willing to utterly ignore their duties to the Constitution, the rights of American citizens, and the very principles of America herself.



24 posted on 03/09/2007 7:35:01 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: InfraRed
From one of the comments to that video link (they are all just like it):

Mexicans are in their own homeland. You sir, are an invader,a tourist whose descendants will either someday be deported back to Europe, or be killed for treason against the People of Anahuac.
25 posted on 03/09/2007 7:42:45 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: snowrip

"Never before has our leadership been so willing to utterly ignore their duties to the Constitution, the rights of American citizens, and the very principles of America herself". I agree about the leadership, very soon they attempt to deprive most Citizens of their 2nd Amendent rights and if successful we will have lost our country.


26 posted on 03/09/2007 8:07:53 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: snowrip
Unfortunately, a very ugly future appears inevitable.

The la raza bunch have goals which are a significant threat to our national security, and they are motivated, mobilized, and moving forward toward those goals. Not only has our government done nothing to stop the invasion, both political parties have been aiding and abetting the enemy.

The invaders continue to escalate the crisis, and someday the situation will boil over. I have zero confidence that our government will do anything meaningful to avoid what is almost certain to become a bloody mess.

27 posted on 03/09/2007 8:46:05 AM PST by InfraRed
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The National Guard needs to be allowed to do more than observe. I would love to see them armed to the teeth, authorized to act, and patrolling the border in Humvees.


28 posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:51 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
And the Taxpayers are out gunned by those on the WOD payroll.

Look at the Billions spent paying for the WOD, and you will see why it even exists.

When in doubt, follow the money!
29 posted on 03/09/2007 9:49:26 AM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; Dr. Marten; mickie; digerati; Robert Drobot; GOPPachyderm; Issaquahking; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


30 posted on 03/09/2007 10:32:56 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
The weapons included 18 M-16 assault rifles, one equipped with an M-203 40mm grenade launcher. Also seized were several M-4 carbines, 17 handguns of various calibers, 200 magazines for different weapons, 8,000 rounds of ammunition, assault vests and other military accessories.

Quite a stash there.
31 posted on 03/09/2007 10:43:55 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

thanks, bfl


32 posted on 03/09/2007 11:52:56 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: snowrip

One of the best summaries of our current plight that I have read on Free Republic, or anywhere else for that matter.


33 posted on 03/09/2007 11:57:38 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

Thank you.

Illegal immigration will be the defining issue of our time... and the time to fight it is now.


34 posted on 03/09/2007 12:00:34 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: wastedyears

Ping to self for later video watching.


35 posted on 03/09/2007 12:03:20 PM PST by wastedyears ( Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Probably all mexican Army property.


36 posted on 03/09/2007 12:05:18 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Flavius

Amnesty will take care of all of that and more.


37 posted on 03/09/2007 12:11:11 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Federal, state and local law-enforcement officials from Texas to California, concerned about the impact of illegally imported weapons into Mexico, say they already are outmanned and outgunned by ruthless gangs that collect millions of dollars in profits by smuggling aliens and drugs into this country.

Get rid of the Border Patrol, put the US military on the border with Mexico, and tell the Mexican government that any future illegal entries by Mexican citizens will be considered acts of war.

38 posted on 03/09/2007 1:15:35 PM PST by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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To: Long Island Pete
"How soon before we are in a civil war because of the border?"

It doesn't have to be a civil war. It could just be a plain old ordinary war against invaders. Of course, that war could start whenever we get serious about protecting our borders.

Sometimes I wonder if the border is not closed because the feds fear it would start an outright war with Mexico. We've let this go far too long.
39 posted on 03/09/2007 2:01:59 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: InfraRed

Wow! What a video!


40 posted on 03/09/2007 2:08:04 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: InfraRed

Wow! What a video! Absolutely chilling.


41 posted on 03/09/2007 2:08:33 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Samurai_Jack

For all intents & purposes it already is a low level war ie best fought by limited military forces & local law enforcement as is laid out in various manuals such as the USMC's small wars manual .

As for the drug runners being proxies of the Mexican govt. no simply because the Mexican govt. is in the pay of the drug runners.


42 posted on 03/09/2007 2:17:16 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
The weapons included 18 M-16 assault rifles, one equipped with an M-203 40mm grenade launcher. Also seized were several M-4 carbines, 17 handguns of various calibers, 200 magazines for different weapons, 8,000 rounds of ammunition, assault vests and other military accessories.

But, but they're Jorge's guests!

43 posted on 03/09/2007 2:26:35 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: snowrip
The first shots are not likely to be taken by our military, but by private citizens who decide enough is enough.

We've already had the first shots. Some of those ended with our own citizens and border patrol behind bars and US ranches taken away and given to the illegals.

44 posted on 03/09/2007 2:32:41 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

I think the Mexican drug runners have paid off our Congress.


45 posted on 03/09/2007 2:32:51 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: keats5

Nothing that plain & simple . The whores in D.C. are looking at the invasion & see voters once the amnesty is declared the Democrats know that they can promise money that never ends to the mexican hordes & they will get the Mexican vote & the Republicans are dumb F#CKS who think they can out socialist the socialists .


46 posted on 03/09/2007 2:53:46 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: b4its2late
I wonder who all that was intended for?

Just doing the killings American's won't do dontcha know!

47 posted on 03/09/2007 3:48:21 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Democrats: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; SwinneySwitch
If they're ready for war with us, "Let's Roll!" Kill all the cartels and lunatic governmental problems, divide the place into four or five new states, lay down new government, no problem. Smaller border to the south of the current Mexico after we take it to defend our new real estate, in the coming twenty four hour war. We start by pulling back our people, and greeting their fighters with this...



48 posted on 03/09/2007 5:44:32 PM PST by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: InfraRed
In the video, most (if not all) of those ignorant politicians and "scholars" are from right here in Mexifornia. They really have convinced themselves that the southwest belongs to them, despite what history says. They either believe it, or they're trying to start a war with us by convincing the other idiots that it's true.

For those in other states, my advice is: NEVER, NEVER ELECT A POLITICIAN WITH A "LATINO" NAME. Their loyalties are with "their people", not America.

I'm convinced that Bush's real family name is Arbusto (bush in Spanish).

49 posted on 03/09/2007 8:20:03 PM PST by janetgreen (DUNCAN HUNTER IN '08)
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To: snowrip
It is a shame that many of our elected leaders no longer consider themselves bound to the electorate or even to reason. Never before in the history of the United States have so many on Capitol Hill been so out of touch with the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Americans. Never before has our leadership been so willing to utterly ignore their duties to the Constitution, the rights of American citizens, and the very principles of America herself.

Absolutely true.

50 posted on 03/09/2007 9:42:37 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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