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1 posted on 03/09/2007 6:44:45 PM PST by LdSentinal
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Thank you for posting this.

The 'flip side' is what we need in order to learn and make informed choices.


170 posted on 03/09/2007 8:42:57 PM PST by krunkygirl
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BRAVO !!! Finally someone debunking the nonsense that Duncan Hunter is God's gift to politics. He's just another congressional porker masquerading as a Reagan conservative. If his protectionist polilies became law it would wreck the economy. Remember Herbert Hoover. He's a lousy dresser too.


182 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:00 PM PST by rodomila
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Click below for Duncan Hunter's voting record, and while everyone might not agree with him 100%, please show a candidate who is better, and THEIR voting record, and WHY it is better:

http://www.issues2002.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm

excerpts are:

Duncan Hunter on Abortion

Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted YES on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted YES on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)


Duncan Hunter on Gun Control

Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
Rated A+ by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record. (Dec 2003)

Duncan Hunter on Foreign Policy

Voted YES on deterring foreign arms transfers to China. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)
Voted NO on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners released. (Jul 2001)
Voted NO on $156M to IMF for 3rd-world debt reduction. (Jul 2000)
Voted NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000)
Voted NO on $15.2 billion for foreign operations. (Nov 1999)


186 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:34 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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You know, if your intention in posting this article was to change the minds of Hunter supporters - I think you missed your mark. I know it hasn't changed my mind a bit. I still like him! Like I said, he's not perfect - but he's way ahead of the 3 frontrunners in my book.

It's good to hear both sides of an issue - I've heard your side, given it a lot of thought, & I'll still stick with my candidate.

You have yours & I have mine - may the best man win.

GO DUNCAN HUNTER!!!


203 posted on 03/09/2007 8:57:30 PM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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Hunter must be gaining support and name recognition, the Rudy supporters are turning their guns on the legitimate conservative in the race.


216 posted on 03/09/2007 9:04:34 PM PST by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Troublemarker! :-)
Don't you know Duncan Hunter walks on water and the sun shines out of his...well never mind


257 posted on 03/09/2007 9:39:54 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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How does Fred Thompson stack up by these same measures?


272 posted on 03/09/2007 9:53:00 PM PST by montag813
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Hunter also went 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments.

The reason that Hunter and many others went against the Flake anti-pork bill is that the bill itself was flakey. For all his good intentions, the Flake bill was not a well written bill and it did very little to address the earmarking that he was trying to stop. Just because a bill sounds good doesn't mean that it is a well written meaningful bill.

299 posted on 03/09/2007 10:08:43 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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Another K Street Republican


338 posted on 03/09/2007 11:13:46 PM PST by Nonstatist
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Good grief. A WHINO is whining that no one is perfect.


341 posted on 03/10/2007 12:29:20 AM PST by tkathy (Rudy is the latest phenomenenenenenenena)
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1. he's been part of the big government spending spree of the last 6 years.

2. YES on No Child Left Behind

3. YES on Sarbanes-Oxley

4. YES on the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit

5. YES on 2005 Highway Bill


From my point of view..........DISQUALIFIED


361 posted on 03/10/2007 5:44:31 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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It's becoming Go Pat Go! Part II on FR these days - and it's still early.

But, I guess it's no different than the rabid left - the most vocal/hysterical/condescending/abrasive are always the fringe/extreme end of the group.


362 posted on 03/10/2007 5:45:38 AM PST by The Coopster
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Thanks for posting. This was some good info. The biggest reason Hunter won't be the nominee is because he is currently in Congress. Congressmen and Sentors don't get elected Preisdent in the current age. Hunter is trying for VP at best, and that seems unlikely since California won't be on the table in 2008.


363 posted on 03/10/2007 5:48:45 AM PST by BUSHdude2000 (Get the embedded reporters out of Iraq and finish the job)
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These votes don't make me happy, but they don't bother me enough to vote against Mr. Hunter. Some of them, like "no child left behind" and the "Medicare drug benefit," may be primarily an example of aligning with the party and president out of party loyalty. Flaws like those are flaws in the party. While I think the country would be stronger if more Republicans followed Ron Paul's example and just voted "No" on things that are stupid ideas, a Congressman following the party on issues like these doesn't disqualify him in my eyes.

Does anyone remember when NAFTA was being debated? I remember all of those people saying that NAFTA would cause an economic boom in the Mexican states south of our border. That economic boom was supposed to solve our illegal immigration problem by creating so many jobs that none of the Mexicans would bother to come to our country. That prophecy didn't exactly come true (/heavy sarcasm). Duncan Hunter's vote on NAFTA looks pretty good in hindsight.

The Club for Growth and CATO groups are economically conservative in the sense that they want to promote whatever big business wants. They want to make it easy for big businesses to dump $12 an hour workers in the U.S.A. in favor of $2 an hour workers somewhere else. (Strangely enough, they never seem all that interested in seeing these same companies dump $12 million a year executives in favor of $2 million a year executives.) They ignore the fact the winner of every major war over the past one hundred fifty years has been the side with the stronger domestic manufacturing sector. I agree with these groups that government spending needs to be much lower, but their overall perspective on what's good for the country is narrow to the point of being wrong.

In any case, I'm glad to see someone offer a more substantive criticism of Mr. Hunter than the shallow favorite "Oh, he can't win." I don't believe that the favorite "can win" candidate can really win, but if we looked at candidates based on their records, the things they advocate, and what they hope to do in office, we'd have a chance to talk about where this country needs to go and how to get there. I also think we'd have a different set of front runners for the nomination.

Bill

377 posted on 03/10/2007 8:10:29 AM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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btt


380 posted on 03/10/2007 8:16:45 AM PST by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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Plus, Duncan Hunter looks like an unmade bed. Reagan was an elegant man, even in jeans and a cowboy hat. One cannot underestimate how important it is to look and act "Presidential."


390 posted on 03/10/2007 8:37:11 AM PST by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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PING!


410 posted on 03/10/2007 9:34:07 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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I'm going to reply before reading the thread, but Hunter is a big-government conservative rather than a small-government libertarian. He is less than doctrinaire on free trade and judges legislation with regard to its total impact on Americans.

He made a mistake if he voted yes to Sarbanes-Oxley, but so did many others on this complicated legislation, and the law has since been changed to give some relief to small businesses.

Many Republicans were convinced to vote for Part D of Medicare because it included private health savings accounts--that may have been the reason for Hunter.

OK, now I'll read the thread : )

443 posted on 03/10/2007 2:44:53 PM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


449 posted on 03/10/2007 4:15:33 PM PST by Coleus (God gave us the right to life & self preservation & a right to defend ourselves, family & property)
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YES on Sarbanes-Oxley

That's a pretty strike against him.

Draft Haley bump

538 posted on 03/11/2007 10:11:01 AM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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