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Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage
The Recorder-Central Connecticut State University ^ | March 7, 2007 | Chris Demorro

Posted on 03/14/2007 2:00:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The Toyota Prius has become the flagship car for those in our society so environmentally conscious that they are willing to spend a premium to show the world how much they care.

Unfortunately for them, their ultimate ‘green car’ is the source of some of the worst pollution in North America; it takes more combined energy per Prius to produce than a Hummer.

Before we delve into the seedy underworld of hybrids, you must first understand how a hybrid works. For this, we will use the most popular hybrid on the market, the Toyota Prius.

The Prius is powered by not one, but two engines: a standard 76 horsepower, 1.5-liter gas engine found in most cars today and a battery- powered engine that deals out 67 horsepower and a whooping 295ft/lbs of torque, below 2000 revolutions per minute.

Essentially, the Toyota Synergy Drive system, as it is so called, propels the car from a dead stop to up to 30mph. This is where the largest percent of gas is consumed. As any physics major can tell you, it takes more energy to get an object moving than to keep it moving. The battery is recharged through the braking system, as well as when the gasoline engine takes over anywhere north of 30mph. It seems like a great energy efficient and environmentally sound car, right?

You would be right if you went by the old government EPA estimates, which netted the Prius an incredible 60 miles per gallon in the city and 51 miles per gallon on the highway.

Unfortunately for Toyota, the government realized how unrealistic their EPA tests were, which consisted of highway speeds limited to 55mph and acceleration of only 3.3 mph per second.

The new tests which affect all 2008 models give a much more realistic rating with highway speeds of 80mph and acceleration of 8mph per second.

This has dropped the Prius’s EPA down by 25 percent to an average of 45mpg. This now puts the Toyota within spitting distance of cars like the Chevy Aveo, which costs less then half what the Prius costs.

However, if that was the only issue with the Prius, I wouldn’t be writing this article. It gets much worse.

Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius.

As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers.

The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.

The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare.

“The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants and the soil slid down off the hillside,” said Canadian Greenpeace energy-coordinator David Martin during an interview with Mail, a British-based newspaper.

All of this would be bad enough in and of itself; however, the journey to make a hybrid doesn’t end there. The nickel produced by this disastrous plant is shipped via massive container ship to the largest nickel refinery in Europe.

From there, the nickel hops over to China to produce ‘nickel foam.’ From there, it goes to Japan.

Finally, the completed batteries are shipped to the United States, finalizing the around-the-world trip required to produce a single Prius battery. Are these not sounding less and less like environmentally sound cars and more like a farce?

Wait, I haven’t even got to the best part yet.

When you pool together all the combined energy it takes to drive and build a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer - the Prius’s arch nemesis.

Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.

The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.

So, if you are really an environmentalist - ditch the Prius. Instead, buy one of the most economical cars available - a Toyota Scion xB. The Scion only costs a paltry $0.48 per mile to put on the road. If you are still obsessed over gas mileage - buy a Chevy Aveo and fix that lead foot.

One last fun fact for you: it takes five years to offset the premium price of a Prius. Meaning, you have to wait 60 months to save any money over a non-hybrid car because of lower gas expenses.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: climatechange; energy; environmentalism; globalwarming; haha; hype; pollution; prius; saintalgore
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The Hummer is more enviromentally friendly than a Prius! ROTFLMAO!!!!
1 posted on 03/14/2007 2:00:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf
LOL! The moonbats are deeply saddened.
2 posted on 03/14/2007 2:01:55 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (As for me, I will remain neutral...for the time being.)
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To: tcrlaf
But, but, the lil'ol Prius feeeeeeeeeeelllls so good!!!
3 posted on 03/14/2007 2:03:31 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("There are no stupid questions. There are, however, many inquisitive idiots." - unknown)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

"But, but, the lil'ol Prius feeeeeeeeeeelllls so good!!!"

I keep finding them stuck to the skid-plate of my Suburban...


4 posted on 03/14/2007 2:05:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: tcrlaf; Paleo Conservative; Clemenza; Cacique; Yehuda

LOL!


5 posted on 03/14/2007 2:05:04 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: tcrlaf

Back to the Yugo!!


6 posted on 03/14/2007 2:06:10 PM PDT by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: tcrlaf; TBP; American Quilter

Ping!


7 posted on 03/14/2007 2:06:19 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: tcrlaf

Hilarious!

I don't believe, though, that the average Hummer lasts for 300,000 miles.


8 posted on 03/14/2007 2:06:46 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: tcrlaf
"One last fun fact for you: it takes five years to offset the premium price of a Prius. Meaning, you have to wait 60 months to save any money over a non-hybrid car because of lower gas expenses"

So, at 20,000 miles per year (55 miles per day) with a life span of 5 years, the Prius is on its last legs just as the humungo savings appear on the horizon.

LOL!

9 posted on 03/14/2007 2:07:21 PM PDT by Covenantor
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"The Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers."

ROTFLOL!

10 posted on 03/14/2007 2:12:09 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: tcrlaf
Unfortunately for them, their ultimate ‘green car’ is the source of some of the worst pollution in North America;

So what? Prius owners can just buy Carbon Credits from the AlGore Carbon Credit store and, Voila! the Prius is green again.

11 posted on 03/14/2007 2:13:05 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: tcrlaf
Oh please, wait!...

I'm gonna go get my lawn chair, bottle of beer and some popcorn to watch the environmental whackos kill themselves.... I'm hoping they use a magnifying glass and some mulch to set themselves on fire....bwahahahahahahahaha

Now I know why Al Gore and the rest of the enviro-hypocrites drive SUV's .... they are driving them cause they "care" about the environment...we drive them cause we've go 4 kids and lots of stuff to carry.

12 posted on 03/14/2007 2:13:56 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: tcrlaf

"The Hummer is more enviromentally friendly than a Prius! ROTFLMAO!!!!"

The environazis will refuse to acknowlege this. The MSM will never report it, and most of this bizzaro world country we still call America will remain ignorant.

And the smug alert will remain high.


13 posted on 03/14/2007 2:14:57 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: tcrlaf
...The nickel produced by this disastrous plant is shipped via massive container ship to the largest nickel refinery in Europe.

From there, the nickel hops over to China to produce ‘nickel foam.’ From there, it goes to Japan.

Finally, the completed batteries are shipped to the United States,

That shadows an old x42i money trail! woo woo

14 posted on 03/14/2007 2:15:53 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Arrive, Raise hell, Leave.)
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To: tcrlaf

The Gubernut should require this article posted prominently in every Toyota showroom, as part of "truth in advertising" laws.


15 posted on 03/14/2007 2:17:08 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: tcrlaf

Apparently the Limocrites should stick to their limos and stick their precious Prious! Algore will be right on this.

Pray for W and Our Troops


16 posted on 03/14/2007 2:17:35 PM PDT by bray (Redeploy to Tehran)
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To: tcrlaf

This is so awesome. Someone please go kick Leo DiCaprio in the nuts for me.


17 posted on 03/14/2007 2:18:25 PM PDT by Thrusher ("There is no peace without victory.")
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To: tcrlaf
It is tempting to keep a stack of prints of this article and put them under Prius windshield wipers.
18 posted on 03/14/2007 2:18:52 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: tcrlaf
The numbers look bogus.

Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.

So that is $325,000 for its lifetime. If gas is at $3/gallon for 40 mile/gal, that's $7,500 of gas in a lifetime leaving $317,500 in non-gasoline costs. If the car is made from "pure energy", i.e. the entire cost of the car is directly attributed to energy cost and nothing else, the energy cost would be about $25,000. That leaves $292,500 in other energy costs for the car's lifetime. What are those costs? Repair parts might be some. Maybe a little hot water to wash your Prius.

When this story originally came out ( Have You Hugged a Hummer Today? (Piercing the Hybrid Hype) ) I looked at it and just about the entire amount of the Prius's energy cost was for disposal. Do you know of any junkyard which asks you for a quarter million dollars to take your junker off your hands?

19 posted on 03/14/2007 2:20:10 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: tcrlaf

I've often wondered what the resale value of this particular vehicle will be as well--what with the limited-life batteries costing thousands of dollars...


21 posted on 03/14/2007 2:22:06 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: tcrlaf

"I keep finding them stuck to the skid-plate of my Suburban..."

Of course, that's why they look so much like cockroaches.


22 posted on 03/14/2007 2:22:38 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("...given the choice between war and dishonor, you chose dishonor - you will have war"- W.Churchill)
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To: holdonnow

Ping!


23 posted on 03/14/2007 2:24:05 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: tcrlaf

I think the Prius is great and I don't understand why Rush hates them so.

The last time my liberal brother and I both visited my mother at the same time, I drove there in my gas-guzzling truck and he drove in his Prius.

He's a noted tightwad but whenever we needed to go anywhere, he volunteered to drive us all in his Prius (he probably thought he was helping to save the planet). So, I didn't need to fill up my truck once the entire trip until heading back.

So I have first-hand experience how the Prius saved me on gasoline... just by having a liberal brother than owned one.


24 posted on 03/14/2007 2:26:22 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (When you extend your hand to a Democrat, the only thing you can expect to get is rabies.)
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25 posted on 03/14/2007 2:27:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: KarlInOhio
Excellent response!

While it's true that the Prius is usually over-hyped; and the Hummer is usually unjustly demonized -- the costs estimates in the article are simply ludicrous. They are based on the type of "accounting" we would normally associate with moonbats. This article is counter productive.
26 posted on 03/14/2007 2:28:51 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: tcrlaf

This poor journalism student will get an "F" for not being politically correct and following the party line, which is "perception equals reality".


27 posted on 03/14/2007 2:29:04 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: brownsfan

This reminds me of the time I looked up and found those old hippy wagon VW busses put out more pollution than your SUV. They have no cadilladic converters so they belch smoke.

Pray for W and Our Troops


28 posted on 03/14/2007 2:29:14 PM PDT by bray (Redeploy to Tehran)
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To: tcrlaf

This is an opportunity for me to bare my soul on this issue. I've been feeling really guilty about the brand new Excursion I bought for my wife this summer that only gets about 12 mpg.

It came time for my new vehicle this month, so to make amends to Mother Earth I made a concerted effort to get a more efficient means of transportation. My new F250 crew-cab that I bought Sunday gets 15mpg and I feel much better now.


29 posted on 03/14/2007 2:33:25 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: tcrlaf

bump


30 posted on 03/14/2007 2:39:12 PM PDT by fso301
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To: tcrlaf

Sudbury Ontario

31 posted on 03/14/2007 2:39:29 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: tcrlaf
Lots cheaper to operate
Minuscule carbon footprint
70-80 MPG
But not too practical in the winter
My favorite chariot


32 posted on 03/14/2007 2:45:28 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: tcrlaf

South Park has shown us that the real name of this car is the "Pious".


33 posted on 03/14/2007 2:46:28 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: tcrlaf

I just wish the damn things would get out of the way. They seem to delight in creeping along holding up traffic.


34 posted on 03/14/2007 2:50:58 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks for the article. Even though one can calculate the energy required to produce the nickel in a hybrid battery, it really isn't responsible for all of the enviromental damage around the smelters and refinery, is it? Nickel is used for more than the batteries in hybrid cars.

I wonder what gas price is used to calculate the 60 months recoup figure? And sometimes you pay a little more to burn less gas.

35 posted on 03/14/2007 2:54:04 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: tcrlaf

stick with the Yaris. way cheaper and 40mpg.


36 posted on 03/14/2007 3:00:12 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: bray

Oh for heavens sake please use a spell checker or maybe get some brains before you post messages here:
cadilladic converter? It's called a catalytic converter for cryin out loud!
I'm a naturalized american citizen and some of you folks who were born here make us conservatives look like freegin idiotic rednecks.


37 posted on 03/14/2007 3:00:17 PM PDT by greenthumbedislndr
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To: BADJOE

Pring!


38 posted on 03/14/2007 3:02:44 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: greenthumbedislndr

I know, it was a play on words! Cadillac/catalytic. What Country do you come from so I make sure never to go there. Perhaps you can import a sense of humor.

BTW Lecture Spellcop, freegin is spelled friggin.

Pray for W and Our Troops


39 posted on 03/14/2007 3:04:30 PM PDT by bray (Redeploy to Tehran)
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To: tcrlaf

Ironically, the only reason to buy either is for ego trips. They're just off to different ego destinations.


40 posted on 03/14/2007 3:10:53 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: tcrlaf
The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles ....
The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles

What kind of idiot numbers are they generating ? Lifetime costs of 585,000 dollars for a Hummer and 325,000 dollars for a Prius?

Cars are expensive at times ... but not THAT expensive.

41 posted on 03/14/2007 3:13:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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ping.


42 posted on 03/14/2007 3:15:38 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: tcrlaf

"which costs less then half what the Prius costs."

Writers should take English as a major. It's not that hard.


43 posted on 03/14/2007 3:26:45 PM PDT by Fireone (Duncan Hunter for President '08! - gohunter08.com)
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To: KarlInOhio

Ever try to dispose of Ni-Cad batteries properly? That is where the primary costs come in. Batteries die. When they do, they will have to be replaced. The replacement batteries are approx $25k if I remember correctly. And good luck disposing of the old battery without having to sell your home.


44 posted on 03/14/2007 3:27:27 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: Rakkasan1

My Hemi eats Yaris and Prius for breakfast and I still get 20 mpg city/30 mpg highway. Of course you will only see a flash when I pass....I have lead foot disease.


45 posted on 03/14/2007 3:29:50 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock (Hope to See You March 17th in DC!)
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To: tcrlaf

bump


46 posted on 03/14/2007 3:30:14 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: tcrlaf

bttt. Someone who's letting facts get in the way of feelings. FOR SHAME!


47 posted on 03/14/2007 3:31:57 PM PDT by ssaftler
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To: doorgunner69

In California they get to use the car pool lane as well, adding insult to injury.


48 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:37 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Ditto
Ironically, the only reason to buy either is for ego trips. They're just off to different ego destinations.

I shared that opinion until recently. Have you driven the Hummer?

49 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:45 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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To: Ditto
Ironically, the only reason to buy either is for ego trips. They're just off to different ego destinations.

I shared that opinion until recently. Have you driven the Hummer?

50 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:47 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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