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Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage
The Recorder-Central Connecticut State University ^ | March 7, 2007 | Chris Demorro

Posted on 03/14/2007 2:00:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: tcrlaf
The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles ....
The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles

What kind of idiot numbers are they generating ? Lifetime costs of 585,000 dollars for a Hummer and 325,000 dollars for a Prius?

Cars are expensive at times ... but not THAT expensive.

41 posted on 03/14/2007 3:13:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: Centurion2000

ping.


42 posted on 03/14/2007 3:15:38 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: tcrlaf

"which costs less then half what the Prius costs."

Writers should take English as a major. It's not that hard.


43 posted on 03/14/2007 3:26:45 PM PDT by Fireone (Duncan Hunter for President '08! - gohunter08.com)
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To: KarlInOhio

Ever try to dispose of Ni-Cad batteries properly? That is where the primary costs come in. Batteries die. When they do, they will have to be replaced. The replacement batteries are approx $25k if I remember correctly. And good luck disposing of the old battery without having to sell your home.


44 posted on 03/14/2007 3:27:27 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: Rakkasan1

My Hemi eats Yaris and Prius for breakfast and I still get 20 mpg city/30 mpg highway. Of course you will only see a flash when I pass....I have lead foot disease.


45 posted on 03/14/2007 3:29:50 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock (Hope to See You March 17th in DC!)
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To: tcrlaf

bump


46 posted on 03/14/2007 3:30:14 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: tcrlaf

bttt. Someone who's letting facts get in the way of feelings. FOR SHAME!


47 posted on 03/14/2007 3:31:57 PM PDT by ssaftler
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To: doorgunner69

In California they get to use the car pool lane as well, adding insult to injury.


48 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:37 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Ditto
Ironically, the only reason to buy either is for ego trips. They're just off to different ego destinations.

I shared that opinion until recently. Have you driven the Hummer?

49 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:45 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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To: Ditto
Ironically, the only reason to buy either is for ego trips. They're just off to different ego destinations.

I shared that opinion until recently. Have you driven the Hummer?

50 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:47 PM PDT by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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To: flynmudd

Their fun to cut off on the Freeway, it's not like their ever going to catch you! Basically an expensive Yugo.

Pray for W and Our Troops


51 posted on 03/14/2007 3:49:47 PM PDT by bray (Redeploy to Tehran)
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To: Ditto
the only reason to buy either is for ego trips. They're just off to different ego destinations

Excellent point.

52 posted on 03/14/2007 3:53:03 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: SFC Chromey

How long does the battery last in the Prius, and how much will it cost to replace?
The Toyota Prius battery is designed to last the lifetime of the vehicle and considering that the Prius is designed to be as durable as any other Toyota, and considering Toyota's reputation, that is a pretty long time. Toyota have lab data showing the Prius battery can do 180,000 miles (290,000km) of normal driving with absolutely no degradation of the battery's performance. To give some real life examples, there is a Vancouver taxi driver, Andrew Grant, who has done over 320,000km in his Prius taxi and another Canadian taxi driver Jatinder Parhar who has traveled over 410,000km in his Toyota Prius Generation II Prius taxi. Neither of them has had to do anything to their Toyota Prius taxis other than standard servicing. (click to read more here). Toyota have stated in a recent press release that they have sold over 100,000 Generation II Prius in the USA and have never had to replace a battery due to wear and tear. (click here to read Toyota Press release). Given all this, the price of a replacement battery is probably irrelevant, however in the extremely unlikely event you needed to replace the battery in your Prius, current cost, at time of writing (Oct 2006), is NZ$4000.00 for a Generation II Prius and NZ$2750 for a Generation III Prius. However this is coming down all the time. When we first looked into this at 2 years ago the battery packs were priced at $7000 each. We believe the price will fall to around $2000 within a year or so given the increased production of Hybrid Vehicles using this type of battery. For piece of mind every Toyota Prius brought from The Clean Green Car Company is covered by a 2 year, unlimited km Hybrid Car Warranty that includes cover for the battery pack.

Another opinion..


53 posted on 03/14/2007 3:56:09 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: tcrlaf

ping self to forward to all my Prius owning friends in the bay area....lol. They will deny everything of course and mine will be an exercise in futility.


54 posted on 03/14/2007 3:57:14 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: tcrlaf

Me, I'm partial to late '70s GM trucks. I figure that by reusing an existing truck, that's one less vehicle that needs to be built. Since these trucks have passed through several pairs of hands by now (in most cases), or been held on to by owners who don't see the point in fixing what ain't broke, that's several new vehicles that overall weren't needed. I am reducing the amount of pollution generated overall, and more than offsetting anything the truck might generate as I drive it (I am assuming, like this article, that producing a vehicle creates more pollution than the vehicle itself will generate in its lifetime).


55 posted on 03/14/2007 4:03:02 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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The new tests which affect all 2008 models give a much more realistic rating with highway speeds of 80mph

I'm not sure the new test is realistic at all. All the Priuses (Priui?) that I've passed on the highway looked like they were straining to stay at 65. Can they really get up to 80 short of being dropped out of an airplane without a chute?

56 posted on 03/14/2007 4:08:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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57 posted on 03/14/2007 4:10:02 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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I'm not sure the new test is realistic at all. All the Priuses (Priui?) that I've passed on the highway looked like they were straining to stay at 65. Can they really get up to 80 short of being dropped out of an airplane without a chute?

Yes and certainly much more comfortably than the Subaru and small pickups I've owned.

58 posted on 03/14/2007 4:10:17 PM PDT by bkepley
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in his Toyota Prius Generation II Prius taxi.

That has to be one of the least suitable cars for a taxi. Better than a Golf, but not much else.

covered by a 2 year, unlimited km Hybrid Car Warranty that includes cover for the battery pack.

Sounds like the battery is good for a little over 2 years. My current car is closing in on 18 years. That's the equivalent of 9 battery pack warranties.

59 posted on 03/14/2007 4:16:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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Sounds like the battery is good for a little over 2 years. My current car is closing in on 18 years. That's the equivalent of 9 battery pack warranties.

No it sounds like the warranty for that particular car is good for two years. Surely you didn't have an 18 year warranty.

60 posted on 03/14/2007 4:18:53 PM PDT by bkepley
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