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California moves primary to February
MSNBC ^ | 15 March 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/15/2007 12:21:01 PM PDT by napscoordinator

SACRAMENTO - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday moved California's presidential primary from June to Feb. 5 in a bid to give the nation's most populous state a greater say in the nominating process.

"Now California is important again in presidential nominating politics... and we will get the respect that California deserves," Schwarzenegger said during a bill-signing ceremony.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: california; election; governor; primaries
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I heard this on FOXNEWS, but could not find it. I found it on MSNBC. What is everyone's thoughts on this? Is this good or bad for Republicans and conservatives?
1 posted on 03/15/2007 12:21:07 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

For Californians, it's wonderful. California has basically been ignored by the Presidential nominating machines except as a cash cow to finance the decisions getting made in other states for as long as memory serves.

Now, alas, on the other hand, Californians are not notably conservative folk.


2 posted on 03/15/2007 12:23:37 PM PDT by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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Good for Republicans, bad for conservatives, and especially bad for Duncan Hunter. It is one reason I believe that Duncan Hunter has no chance. (Having the primaries so early, is to shut out people like Hunter.)
3 posted on 03/15/2007 12:25:20 PM PDT by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: napscoordinator; Reagan Man; EternalVigilance; Fierce Allegiance

It's great if you are among the people here who want to move the republican party to the left.


4 posted on 03/15/2007 12:25:42 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: napscoordinator

Bad idea. The reason small states have traditionally gone first is so that the residents of the other states can see them in action before casting a ballet. What this is bound to lead to is a national primary that elects whoever is ahead in the polls going in, with little to no vetting.

If you are going to have the large states go first, then just have a national primary and be done with it.


5 posted on 03/15/2007 12:26:16 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: napscoordinator

Ca is bad for conservatives. Early election, bad too.


6 posted on 03/15/2007 12:26:25 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: napscoordinator

There goes the neighborhood.


7 posted on 03/15/2007 12:27:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Stephen Douglas won a Senate seat. Abe Lincoln became an immortal...)
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To: flashbunny

That does not sound too good. It is too bad that Republicans seem to want to go left. The country is left enough in my opinion.


8 posted on 03/15/2007 12:30:39 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: NathanR

It practically guarantees a Rudy nomination. A candidate will be having to advertise in the expensive California market prior to the New Hampshire results.

No darkhorse who is underfunded has a snowball's chance.


9 posted on 03/15/2007 12:30:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: napscoordinator

Bad for 'pubbies and 'cratties alike. Less time for dark horse candidates to emerge.


10 posted on 03/15/2007 12:30:48 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: showme_the_Glory

Than why do you suppose that Arnold signed this piece of stuff (being nice). lol. I know he is not that conservative, but you would think that he would do what is best for the country and not just california.


11 posted on 03/15/2007 12:33:13 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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we will get the respect that California deserves


Is that possible?

12 posted on 03/15/2007 12:35:49 PM PDT by John123 (Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
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Is this good or bad for Republicans and conservatives?

Bad. Arnold probably figured such a move was helpful in his campaign for the Presidency. He's clearly not worried about the Constitution limiting the office to native-born Americans. He no doubt already has assurances the Constitution can be "fixed." Hell, George Bush doesn't obey his oath of office to uphold the country's laws (illegal immigration). We're pretty well into a post-Constitutional era.

13 posted on 03/15/2007 12:40:02 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Dog Gone

This law won't help Rudy win the nomination. Rep. Duncan Hunter, of Calif., will receive at least as many votes as Rudy, in Hunter's homestate.

Rudy will win almost half of the primaries, since he's the least conservtive candidate. The conservative vote will split, among about five conservatives, helping him win many primaries, with about 40% of the vote. He won't receive the nomination, because, during the convention, the majority of delegates won't vote for someone who is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and anti-gun rights.


14 posted on 03/15/2007 12:40:17 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: John123

Oh no! You poor californians. lol.


15 posted on 03/15/2007 12:40:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: John123

Another Rudy pic.


16 posted on 03/15/2007 12:44:10 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: PhilCollins
This law won't help Rudy win the nomination. Rep. Duncan Hunter, of Calif., will receive at least as many votes as Rudy, in Hunter's homestate.

I wish you wouldn't be so delusional, since it will only increase your disappointment when the results are in. Hunter doesn't even register in the polls of Californians at present. He's not amassing a big warchest.

How does this miracle occur?

17 posted on 03/15/2007 12:50:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Vetting? Who are Iowans and NH residents to do the "vetting" when 20% of the nation lives in CA?

CA has been only an ATM. McCain, Rudy, Hillary, Obama... they've all been out here already for their dough.

This is fantastic news for CA.

I'm not sure of the details. There was a point where we had an "open primary" system but I think the Presidential contest is limited to voters of that party. This state has tried hard to get some of its voters their deserved influence in presidential politics and, so far, failed.

Most important to CA voters, however, is whether they slipped in undermining state legislature term limits for this election.

18 posted on 03/15/2007 12:53:54 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Avg price, REGULAR gas, $3.19/gallon in San Diego.)
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> Than why do you suppose that Arnold signed this piece of
> stuff (being nice). lol

See post #2. Basically, California's only function in the presidential election cycle was to write big checks for the candidates to spend on New Hampshirites and Iowans.

California got sick of it.


19 posted on 03/15/2007 12:54:00 PM PDT by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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Yeah, as if their electoral votes were ignored in the primary process. Uh-huh.

Oh, well. We'll have NY-CA-TX-FL-IL-PA-OH (209 of 538 EV) dominating the political landscape, and the other 43 states can "go hang". I'm sure that what the Founders had in mind when the made a two-house Congress.

20 posted on 03/15/2007 12:54:26 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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