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Hidden dealers of sudden death (UK-Snipers)
http://news.scotsman.com/ ^ | Sat 17 Mar 2007 | IN KAJAKI

Posted on 03/16/2007 11:22:12 PM PDT by chasio649

THEY had been waiting since before dawn, dug into a makeshift hide, almost half a mile behind enemy lines.

The four Royal Marine Commando snipers sat huddled in the dark, scouring a Taleban compound through the scopes on their L96A1 sniper rifles.

They had been watching the target since before dawn. The order to fire came an hour after first light. They levelled their bolt-action, single-shot rifles at two Taleban sentries less than 250 metres away. Village dogs were barking but the insurgents never saw their killers.

The marines counted down from five, in unison, and the crack of four bullets rang out as one. The two sentries fell down dead. Confirmed kills: two, collateral damage: zero, and the snipers withdrew.

"They [the other Taleban] were looking around for us but they couldn't find us. We could see them and they weren't very happy," Corporal Simon, 36, told The Scotsman.

The snipers do such a sensitive job that few have been interviewed before, and those interviewed by this newspaper would only use their first names.

The sentries became the 39th and 40th kills of the elite and ultra-secretive Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance (ISTAR) unit who, for the last six months, have been operating as part of 42 Commando in Helmand prov-ince. "We are the sharp end of the needle," Corporal Simon said.

The Taleban fighters killed during an operation this week had been based in the village of Olehabad, three-and-a-half kilometres from the marines' remote outpost at Kajaki.

Kajaki is the site of a dam and hydroelectric plant and is in desperate need of refurbishment. The USAID organisation is funding a project to add another turbine but before work can begin, it has insisted that a 6km safety zone is established. So far, marine commandos have cleared a 3km area outside the dam, but beyond that the Taleban are still very much in control.

It is outside this area that the snipers are at their most effective. Under cover of darkness, they patrol into position, dig a hide and wait. They fire off only a few shots before withdrawing.

They are backed up by a troop of marines who hide nearby and they also have a fire-support team travelling in highly mobile, heavily armed, open-topped Land Rovers to call upon.

On the latest operation, as the marine snipers were extracting themselves, they were ambushed from several directions by Taleban insurgents, who at times were as close as 200 meters. Smoke mortars were fired from a nearby hill and the snipers got back to base safely.

"As we collapsed our position we knew we were getting flanked and were ambushed and pinned down with small arms for a bit," said the corporal. The snipers' job in Afghanistan is made more difficult because Taleban rebels routinely use women and children as shields. They have also been known to dress as women and hide weapons under shawls.

"I've seen a fighter sitting on a motorbike with a woman and a kid on the back ... that's the hardest thing, finding the target," said the corporal. "I have a wife and kid, too, and I don't want to take the shot if I'm going to hit the wrong person."

The elite Royal Marine snipers take every precaution to ensure the man in their crosshairs is the one they want. All have graduated from Commando sniper school, considered the best course of its kind in the world.

"We have a pass rate of only 30 per cent - it's tough to get through," said Marine Ben, 22.

"The Royal Marine sniper school is the best in the world," added Marine Brendan, also just 22.

• THE L96A1 sniper rifle used by British forces in Afghanistan is manufactured by the Portsmouth company Accuracy International.

It was purpose-built for sniping, rather than being a variant of an existing weapon.

The company says it uses performance enhancing features learned in Olympic and international target shooting in the design of its weapons.

Accurate to a range of 1,000 metres, the rifle can shoot groups of 7.62mm bullets in a 51mm radius at 550 metres. It is generally fitted with a Schmidt & Bender 6 x 42 scope.

It has special de-icing features allowing it to be used effectively at temperatures as low as -40C. The stockhole, bolt, magazine release and trigger guard are large enough to be easily used while wearing heavy gloves.

The L96A1 is recognised as one of the best sniper rifles in the world and is used by the armed forces of Australia, Belgium, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands and Singapore.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: oneshotonekill; snipers; wot
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To: TweetEBird007; jws3sticks
Sentries have got to be a very low grade target.

When it comes to effective sniping, there's no such thing. Much of the art of sniping is psychological warfare.

41 posted on 03/17/2007 9:49:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Good point.


42 posted on 03/17/2007 10:03:44 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: miliantnutcase

Shoot them all

Let God sort them out.


43 posted on 03/17/2007 10:22:19 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Ajnin
Probably they got drawn into a running firefight because they shot from inside 250m. That's pretty close, getting into standard infantry range rather than sniper range. Heck, I'm only a fair shot and I could hit a man sized target at 250.

I'd have thought they'd want to be at 400m plus... But then, I guess you can't pick the terrain and cover... Sometimes it is just going to be an in-tight mission.

44 posted on 03/17/2007 10:35:12 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: chasio649
The two sentries fell down dead. Confirmed kills: two,

I like the hunting regulations in Iraq: Open season on game, no permit required, no bag limit, no tagging of the carcass required and you don't have to clean your kill..........

45 posted on 03/17/2007 10:44:05 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Farmer Dean

MOA?


46 posted on 03/17/2007 10:48:24 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: chasio649

Lets not start to blubber, Real men dont use their wives & children as shields!


47 posted on 03/17/2007 10:50:19 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Lancey Howard
When it comes to effective sniping, there's no such thing. Much of the art of sniping is psychological warfare.

Yeah, the effectiveness of confusing the S%@t out of a bunch of hadjis by four guys engaging them with bolt action rifles from well inside the range of their own weapons must be devastating...especially when they take down guys whose job is to stand roughly out in the open...and get ambushed on the way out... ;o)

48 posted on 03/17/2007 10:59:20 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Minutemen
Lets not start to blubber, Real men dont use their wives & children as shields!

No, silly infidel pigdog: They use YOUR wives and children as sheilds!

49 posted on 03/17/2007 11:01:48 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Farmer Dean
Is anyone using silenced sniper weapons...

I have been in the target trench while there were bullets passing 10 feet overhead.

The bullet is going supersonic, so the shock wave makes a loud snap. It is almost as loud as the rifle.

You cannot stop the sound from the shock wave, so they would know that someone is shooting at them even it the rifle had a silencer.

It also sounds like the rifle is close by, so if they start looking for it, they will look much too close to themselves, and not out where it originated.

50 posted on 03/17/2007 11:02:06 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: papertyger

I before E, except after C...Crap!


51 posted on 03/17/2007 11:03:08 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: RunningWolf

"There is a whole lot more to their story going on there than their marksmanship IMO"

Yes, they didn't risk 4 snipers to only take out 2 bottom feeding sentries.


52 posted on 03/17/2007 11:06:31 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: reg45
A 2" radius = 4" diameter.

Due to the widespread ignorance concerning the difference between radius and diameter, I think he was simplifying the statement for the masses.

53 posted on 03/17/2007 11:24:13 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: TweetEBird007
Sentries have got to be a very low grade target.

I wouldn't want to be doing sentry duty after this though. If they did stick me on duty as sentry, I'd probably spend most of my time with my head hid down behind something.

It's always useful to deal out sudden unexpected death to the enemy.

54 posted on 03/17/2007 1:38:33 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Dan(9698)

The solution to the problem is a sub-sonic round like the 300 Whisper.The preferred bullet is a 240 grain boat tail,the muzzle velocity is about 1040 fps-just below the speed of sound.Out to about 300 meters it is silent,accurate,and deadly.At 400yd it still retains 940 fps of it's velocity,for 471 ft lbs of kenetic energy.


55 posted on 03/17/2007 2:17:10 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

You are right. Anything could have happened out there. I wish I had more info.


56 posted on 03/18/2007 3:05:22 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: MHGinTN



57 posted on 03/18/2007 3:17:37 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: IncPen

ping


58 posted on 03/18/2007 3:37:01 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: DainBramage
The media exposure to an accepted policy

They could be penetrated too as an accepted policy. What is with all this concern about what the rest of the world thinks of us? Regardless of America's actions, the rest of the world spits upon us. I prefer they fear us as opposed to like us.

59 posted on 03/18/2007 4:36:43 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: TweetEBird007
"Sentries have got to be a very low grade target."

I think the two "sentries" were, most likely, a couple of priority Afghani/Taliban types that need to be be taken out. They just couldn't say that.
60 posted on 03/18/2007 5:02:13 AM PDT by Gum Shoe
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