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Sandy Berger Speaks
Power Line ^ | 3/16/07 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 03/17/2007 12:32:37 AM PDT by conservative in nyc

Sandy Berger sent an email to Michael Barone, responding to Michael's column in U.S. News. As we have written extensively on the Berger affair and have been harshly critical of Berger, it seems only fair to reproduce Berger's email in full, as it constitutes his response to his critics. Here it is:

Michael: I screwed up. There was nothing sinister about it. I was under serious pressure to digest the entire Clinton record on terrorism for eight years so that we could testify fully to the 9-11 commission. I spent several arduous days at the Archives looking through the files. This document was interesting to me because I had commissioned it in 2000–a look at what we learned from the millennium terror threats that were avoided. Tired, stressed, I made a very stupid decision–to take the documents home with me so that I could review them in more detail and so that I could compare the apparent differences among versions. Since this document had been widely circulated to all the relevant agencies (State, Defense, CIA, Justice, etc.), I felt certain the commission would get it from one or more of these agencies.

There were no handwritten markings on the documents (which were copies) or anything else unusual. I took no other documents–originals or copies–besides the ones specified in my plea agreement.

The DOJ has stated unequivocally that there is no evidence that I took other documents and that the commission received everything.

That's the long and short of it. I made a very stupid mistake. I deeply regret it. Top-level career Justice Department prosecutors investigated it aggressively for two years. We reached a plea agreement that they believed was fair. That was two years ago. Now I wish this thing would go away.

Best, Sandy

I don't buy it. Berger didn't make an impulsive decision--"tired, stressed"--to smuggle documents out of the National Archives. He stole documents on multiple occasions. On one occasion, he sneaked them out of the archives, went to a nearby construction site and hid the documents under a construction trailer, so he could come back later and pick them up. I simply don't believe that Berger engaged in this kind of cloak and dagger behavior just because he found the documents "interesting" and wanted to study them at home.

Most of all, I don't see how Berger's explanation can be reconciled with his own admission that he didn't just take the documents home; he cut some of them to pieces with a pair of scissors. Why did he destroy the documents if he wasn't trying to prevent them from coming to light?

Nor am I impressed by Berger's claim that the Department of Justice "has stated unequivocally that there is no evidence that I took other documents and that the commission received everything." There is no evidence as to what documents Berger took because the Archives staff let him walk off with them and didn't try to monitor what he was doing until it was too late. That being the case, the only evidence as to what documents were taken is Berger's own confession.


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KEYWORDS: berger; clinton; lameexcuse; nocigar; sandyberger; sandyburglar; sandyburgler; socksgate; stuckonstupid
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1 posted on 03/17/2007 12:32:42 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

"Now I wish this thing would go away."

Heh. There's a 1000 politicos who wish that about their "mistakes".

But the life Berger chose doesn't allow that, and he knew that going in.


2 posted on 03/17/2007 12:36:05 AM PDT by HarryCaul (www.whitehousepresscorps.com)
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To: conservative in nyc

Children.


3 posted on 03/17/2007 12:37:02 AM PDT by modhom
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To: modhom
Children.

Huh?

We'll never know for sure what Sandy burgled because he cut some of the documents up with scissors.
4 posted on 03/17/2007 12:39:59 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Tired, stressed, I made a very stupid decision

Awww. TO REHAB WITH HIM! And they all lived happily ever after.

5 posted on 03/17/2007 12:41:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: conservative in nyc
That story doesn't explain his destruction of the documents either. He agreed to a lie detector exam...time to take it.
6 posted on 03/17/2007 12:42:37 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: conservative in nyc
Now I wish this thing would go away.

Translation: moveondotcom

7 posted on 03/17/2007 12:43:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: conservative in nyc
Libby was tired and stressed. Several days at looking at files? C'mon!

I've grown to accept the, "I can not recall" statements made by politician when on the stand or being depo'd. Especially hard working persons. Berger was an errand boy, caught with a hand in the cookie jar, who makes poor excuses.
8 posted on 03/17/2007 12:44:24 AM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Part of his plea arrangement was that he submit to a polygraph test.

Two yrs later and still he has yet to take the test. He has no intention of ever taking a polygraph, and since the DOJ is letting him slide, he never will.

We're all being played for chumps.


9 posted on 03/17/2007 12:50:31 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Howlin; Fedora
Sandy Berger letter. Apparently he was tired multiple times over many days. So tired he went to the bathroom once every half hour during the hours he was in the archives and made multiple pointless trips to the construction trailer outside the building to deposit documents he accidentally 'dropped' into his pants out of sight beneath the trailer. Perhaps, like Joe Wilson and Al Gore, he had a habit of drinking too much tea.

One thing I do think he's telling the truth about is that he was concerned about the differences between documents, in other words, the notations by various individuals on otherwise identical copies.

I'd be concerned too if I had to reconstruct a series of lies told years ago... so that everyone from the Clinton Admin could get on the same page before going before the 9/11 commission. Perhaps Clinton wanted to rehearse his answers, as in a play, with the borrowed, nay, stolen, script.

One thing that interests me is why there is never any mention of the other individual who, along with Sandy Berger, was cleared for and tasked with the job of gathering Clinton admin documents.

What dates did this individual visit the archives?

Was he or she just as tired as Sandy Berger?

If so, did he or she also suffer from a shoplifting habit like Sandy [and incidently like the Abu Ghraib prison General whose discipline was so lacking, and like many others in the Clinton Admin who were so exhausted from 8 years of laborious civil servitude couldn't help but walk off with furniture, US aircraft carrier towels & bathrobes, busts of American historic figures, FBI files, and the "W" keys on White House typewriters?]

Was this individual checked for missing documents or placed under observation when Sandy turned up looking stuffed like a garage sale jackalope?

And did anyone catch this individual's name?

10 posted on 03/17/2007 12:58:28 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: conservative in nyc

Being that this was in an e-mail, I will modify that old saw:

How can we tell Berger's lying? His fingers are moving.

This is the stuff that you pick up in the barnyard after you've put the cows in the barn for the night.


11 posted on 03/17/2007 1:02:06 AM PDT by Theresawithanh (Rudy? Hunter? McCain? Tancredo? Romney? Presenting WWF FR style.....)
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To: Bullish

You don't want to be hasty with the obligatory lie detector test if he's only obligated to undergo one of them. You have to know what questions to ask and to do that you must have a better idea of what he was involved in.


12 posted on 03/17/2007 1:02:31 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: conservative in nyc
so that I could review them in more detail and so that I could compare the apparent differences among versions.

You mean, compare shenanigans of the Clinton White House, don't you?

13 posted on 03/17/2007 1:09:50 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Theresawithanh

"How can we tell Berger's lying? His fingers are moving."

No, his pants and socks rustle when he walks. that's how.


14 posted on 03/17/2007 2:20:39 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: conservative in nyc

Berger was sent by Clinton to determine if any documents were to be protected by executive privilege. In other words, to keep certain documents from being disseminated because of the sensitive nature of their contents. Even Berger admits that he destroyed at least some of the materials he was entrusted with. Sounds like he did just what he was sent in to do.


15 posted on 03/17/2007 2:30:21 AM PDT by james500
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To: conservative in nyc

And one of the lead investigators from DOJ ends up with a cushy job at Burglar's company. Nothing odd about that!


16 posted on 03/17/2007 2:31:52 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: conservative in nyc

You know what I would have the GOP demand a congressional inquiry into the matter the email is very implicating in tht he continues to lie about the length at which was willing to go to steal the documents. The first question out of any Prosecuter must be "Mr. Berger in your position as NSA did you realize that stealing classified documents from the Archives is punishable by prison time". Yes, so therefore the risk of having them seen outweighed the consequence. If witnesses state that they saw him on more then one occasion taking documents the lie broadens. Again I submit Sandy Berger has committed the crime of the Century and goes largely unpunished for it. Imagine for one minute that Condi or Rove went back in the Archives and took some documents... Imagine the political storm that the Dems would slam Bush with. There can be no quarter if the GOP are gutless they will remain out of power.


17 posted on 03/17/2007 2:42:14 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Hey Gore everytime you turn the lights on in your mansion you kill another polar bear.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Poor Sandy. Oh yeah, I believe him...


18 posted on 03/17/2007 5:29:31 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Selling Carbon Offsets since 2007. Get right with Gaia!)
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To: conservative in nyc
I was under serious pressure to digest the entire Clinton record on terrorism for eight years

Pressure from whom, Mr. B?

I took no other documents–originals or copies–besides the ones specified in my plea agreement.

Strange wording. I would have said something like "I disclosed everything that I took", not "I didn't take anything they didn't find".

19 posted on 03/17/2007 5:33:49 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: thegreatbeast
"Poor Sandy. Oh yeah, I believe him..."

ME TOO!

20 posted on 03/17/2007 5:44:38 AM PDT by DeaconRed (If it weren't for the United States Military-There would be NO United States of America.)
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To: Bullish

Two yrs later and still he has yet to take the test. He has no intention of ever taking a polygraph, and since the DOJ is letting him slide, he never will.


Sure, but we're all supposed to rally around Gonzales.


21 posted on 03/17/2007 5:47:39 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
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To: conservative in nyc

Yeah, he screwed up. He got caught. Clintonistas aren't supposed to get caught.


22 posted on 03/17/2007 5:50:27 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Hillary - the Empty Pants Suit)
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To: conservative in nyc

Sandy---- If you will steal you will lie-- So why should you be believed---

When one commits a felony, can he just say, "I was tired and I made a mistahe"?

Can one imagine Duke Cunningham or John Trafficant saying "I was just tired and made a mistsake"--- would that have kept them out of prison ? Of course not---- It seems that all one has to be is a Liberal then you are judged under different laws---just look at "cool Cash" Jefferson.


23 posted on 03/17/2007 6:49:53 AM PDT by tsali
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To: conservative in nyc

Lies. "I did not have sex with that woman." .... "There was nothing sinister about it ... there were no handwritten notes ... "


24 posted on 03/17/2007 6:57:40 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Is he a victim yet? geeze.


25 posted on 03/17/2007 7:18:23 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: conservative in nyc

Uh huh. I'm sure Scooter Libby wishes his issue would go away, too.


26 posted on 03/17/2007 7:21:42 AM PDT by freedom4me ("Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom."--Ben Franklin)
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To: conservative in nyc
I made a very stupid mistake. I deeply regret it.

It's true!

I just witnessed it with my own eyes.

Pigs CAN fly!!!!

27 posted on 03/17/2007 7:30:16 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: freedom4me
Uh huh. I'm sure Scooter Libby wishes his issue would go away, too.

Yea, and that mockery of justice is leading Scooter to face up to 25 years.

He should have actually broken a law and in a big fashion to boot for then he would have been fines $50,000 and had his fingers slapped.

28 posted on 03/17/2007 7:33:51 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: conservative in nyc

Bump for Powerline's comments on Burglar's BS.


29 posted on 03/17/2007 7:34:17 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tagline.)
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To: conservative in nyc
Now I wish this thing would go away.

30 posted on 03/17/2007 7:39:12 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: conservative in nyc

BURGLAR BUMP!


31 posted on 03/17/2007 7:45:44 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: conservative in nyc

The stress came from knowing what was in the documents. If Libby gets 30 years for not committing a crime, this guy should hang.


32 posted on 03/17/2007 7:46:07 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: conservative in nyc
if he were a republican he would be in jail and bush would have been impeached....nay, no media bias, nope...none at all.

Now lets all forget this garbage and get back to serious matters like the outing of poor valerie plame /s

jelly-spined rep. representatives better grow a pair or as a party they will be extinct

33 posted on 03/17/2007 7:48:15 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: conservative in nyc

bookmark ping , .. and THANKS conservative in nyc


34 posted on 03/17/2007 7:48:41 AM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: conservative in nyc

god! i cannot face another 8 years of clinton-pukes!


35 posted on 03/17/2007 7:54:33 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: conservative in nyc

I hope the Justice Department goes after Sandy....but alas I have other dreams too.


36 posted on 03/17/2007 7:55:57 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: HarryCaul

Sandy speaks, "ARF, ARF." And Annie says that is the extent of his intelligence.


37 posted on 03/17/2007 7:56:56 AM PDT by JayAr36
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To: conservative in nyc
If Sandy Berger was an ex-FDR top aide, and had done this with the Pearl Harbor Commission in 1946, it would have been considered the single worst act of teason since Benedict Arnold, and he would surely have been sent to the electric chair.

It is a measure of the Clintonista agents who remain within the DoJ and FBI that he received a mere 100 hours of community service, and will regain his security clearances about the time Madame Hillary may take office (Jan 2009, what a coincidence). And it is a measure of the total incompetence of President Bush and Alberto Gonzales that these traitors have been left in place and permitted to operate as enemies within.

38 posted on 03/17/2007 7:59:42 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

2 plus 2 equals 5 is a mistake.

Stuffing stolen government documents down your pants, cutting them up, hiding them under a trailer is not a mistake.


39 posted on 03/17/2007 8:07:08 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: conservative in nyc
Unbelievable. This sounds like something a kid would say, "Aw, gee, I'm sorry, I was tired and my hand just happened to slip into that cookie jar and my fingers just happened to close around those cookies, because I was tired and wasn't looking and I screwed up...", blah blah blah. And he expects real people, grown-ups, to buy this nonsense? That's what's really insulting about this stupid idiot. It's bad enough he commits a federal crime and gets away with it, but then to get away with this kind of lame excuse is just adding insult to injury.

You know, when I was in grad school, there were plenty of times, late in the evening in the library when I was studying papers and documents that were marked "Use In Library Only" that I wished I could have snuck out and taken home. But I didn't. I respected the rule (law). Those weren't my documents to do with as I pleased. So I came back the next day, rested and ready to go, and resumed my work. If an ordinary slob like me can follow the rules, why can't Burglar? Oh, I forgot, he's a Clintonista 'Rat, rules don't apply to him. Rotten scum, the lot of them.

40 posted on 03/17/2007 8:09:07 AM PDT by chimera
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To: conservative in nyc
I don't think he ever took the required lie detector test. Being "stupid" should result in his permanent banning of top secret classification and some jail time for mishanling classified documents.

All Libby did was have a faulty memory. And, this clown, Burger, got away with basic treason.

41 posted on 03/17/2007 8:09:21 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: Bahbah; tiredoflaundry; retrokitten; Mo1; FOXFANVOX; doug from upland; TomGuy; rodguy911; ...

More on Sandy Berger's pants. LOL Why won't we stop talking about it?

Read John Hinderaker's summary


42 posted on 03/17/2007 8:26:28 AM PDT by saveliberty (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Tom Maguire posted the best sentencing idea yet on Just One Minute

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/02/open_thread_fri.html


43 posted on 03/17/2007 8:28:51 AM PDT by saveliberty (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: conservative in nyc

Let a simple citizen of this republic make the same simple, 'stupid', mistake and he or she will not again see the free light of day. Sandy Berger is a Clinton criminal and should have been locked up for years. But the Washintonian elites circled their wagons for him - for some reason we may never know. This pos is even going to be eligible to receive top secret clearance in the future. There was never supposed to be a double standard in application of the law. Something terrible has happened.


44 posted on 03/17/2007 8:30:49 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: saveliberty

Morning, save.

I saw this earlier. John seems unpersuaded :)

I think I can't get over this because being able to make fun of Berger stuffing his pants full of documents, mocking him, assuages some of my anger that he was essentially allowed to get away with this.


45 posted on 03/17/2007 8:41:12 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Good post. Yes, Berger is certainly lying through his teeth. Surprise, surprise.


46 posted on 03/17/2007 8:50:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Bahbah

Top o' the morning to you, Bahbah! Happy St. Patrick's Day.

I agree with John Hinderaker that Berger's excuse is unconvincing and unsatisfactory-- he took the same document three times, some documents weren't catalogued until the staff started suspecting something. And John had posted the investigation which chronicled the suspicious activity.

The most laughable part is that he whines that he wants this to go away. But you know, he hasn't paid the fine yet, has he?

I do like Tom Maguire's solution, linked above


47 posted on 03/17/2007 8:51:40 AM PDT by saveliberty (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: conservative in nyc

So with Berger, the Prosecutor used discretion?

Why not with Libby?

Here's why not:

ABCCBSNBCMSNBCDNCNPRCSPANNEWSWEEKTIMENYTWPHOLLYWOODCNN....


48 posted on 03/17/2007 8:55:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Lancey Howard

Berger has teeth? Who knew?


49 posted on 03/17/2007 8:58:38 AM PDT by saveliberty (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: HarryCaul
Typical Clintonista who actually believes he never has to say he is sorry! They lie, steal and cheat with impunity and when they get caught it's always someone else's fault or we are making to big a deal over it!!
But let Scooter speak out of turn,fall for a perjury trap, let GW,say the wrong anything, Cheney any of us and it's WWIII.
Fry his ass and now!!
50 posted on 03/17/2007 9:01:30 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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