Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mystery creator of anti-Clinton ad ID'd
Yahoo/AP ^ | 3/22/2007

Posted on 03/22/2007 4:01:07 AM PDT by farlander

he Internet video sensation that targeted Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton now has rival Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) on the spot. Paid Political Advertisement

Heralded by many as the embodiment of Web-driven citizen activism, the mysterious YouTube ad now stands revealed as the work of a Democratic operative employed by a consulting firm with Obama links.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ad; capaign; hillary; obama
The thlot pickens.
1 posted on 03/22/2007 4:01:08 AM PDT by farlander
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: farlander
Vast Blue State Conspiracy it would seem.
2 posted on 03/22/2007 4:08:30 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rod1

Yea Clinton minions went out to find this guy at all costs. It is a bit convenient he's got Obama campaign links. Makes for great watching.


3 posted on 03/22/2007 4:12:31 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: farlander

The Republicans ought to hire this guy.
At least we could be sure that there was at least one person involved with the Republican campaign effort with a brain and a little spine.


4 posted on 03/22/2007 4:15:52 AM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: farlander

Why are people up in arms over this video? Is it too close to the truth?


5 posted on 03/22/2007 4:42:36 AM PDT by bigcat32
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: farlander; All
It is a bit convenient he's got Obama campaign links. Makes for great watching.

It's a bit more than "convenient" that he has Obama campaign links. Indeed, those links, combined with the intellectual property law aspects of this matter, pretty well prove that he created and published the ad with the full knowledge and consent of the Obama campaign, after careful coordination with and consent from one or more of Apple Computer's lib executives.

Since the Obama campaign's direct links have been disclosed in the article, I'll concentrate on the intellectual property law aspects.

Apple Computer owns the basic ad from which this "derivative work" was produced, the video of the female athlete throwing the hammer, and its own Logo, all of which were heavily used in the ad. If Apple hadn't consented to this use, de Vellis, YouTube, Gooogle, and de Vellis' employer would be subject to a massive, solidly grounded law suit for this extraordinarily blatant copyright violation. Apple, however, has been conspicuous by its deafening silence in a situation where it normally could have been expected to fight tooth and nail to defend its apparently violated copyrights. After all, allowing this use of its material exposes Apple to boycotting by individual Clintonoids and serious retaliation in the government contracting area if, God forbid, the ever-vengeful Witch becomes President.

Nevertheless, Apple's been dead silent. IMHO the only logical explanation is that one of Apple's many high ranking lib executives decided in advance to allow this extraordinary use of two of its IP crown jewels, the 1984 ad and its logo, in a devastatingly effective attack ad against the Witch. That, in turn, means there had to be serious advance coordination between said Apple executive and one or more persons in the Obama campaign.

This theory is further supported by the fact that de Vellis is a 33 year old experienced DemonRat campaign operative who's worked in the media area of a number of campaigns. As such, he had to learn about the pitfalls of copyright law, just as conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and Paul Shanklin have had to. Hence, he wouldn't have created and posted the ad without coordinating with and receiving the approval of both the Obama campaign and Apple Computer.

It really surprises me that the MSM has so far been blind to the whole Apple Computer intellectual property law aspect of this matter when it's probably the key to what happened.

6 posted on 03/22/2007 5:13:42 AM PDT by libstripper (AS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: libstripper
If Apple hadn't consented to this use, de Vellis, YouTube, Gooogle, and de Vellis' employer would be subject to a massive, solidly grounded law suit for this extraordinarily blatant copyright violation.

I don't think this is true. The apple ad video on which this was based has been floating around on google video and youtube for years, and they never took any action.

You can fully explain apple's lack of action very easily: this is a commercial, not a movie. They want as many people to view it as possible. They get free publicity every time NBC news (or any other) shows it on the air and says it was based on an Apple ad. The original apple ad is also getting huge numbers of hits now.

From apple's point of view, what's not to love about this situation?

No nefarious explanation is needed: apple makes out like a bandit. They would not want to discourage this kind of activity in any way.

7 posted on 03/22/2007 5:28:49 AM PDT by drangundsturm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: mikeybaby
The Republicans ought to hire this guy.

Yeah, no kidding. We ought to take this add and substitute AlGore's picture for Hitlery.
8 posted on 03/22/2007 5:37:59 AM PDT by plsvn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: farlander

Gee, CNN was suggesting the video may have come from Republican sources. Guess they're wrong AGAIN.


9 posted on 03/22/2007 5:42:38 AM PDT by RabidBartender
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: drangundsturm; All
From apple's point of view, what's not to love about this situation?

A great deal. By allowing this extraordinary use of its ad, its logo, and the clip of the female athlete Apple puts itself in the position of being subject to serious retaliation by the Clinton forces, both in the form of potential individual boycotts and, far worse, the retaliatory denial of government contracts if, God forbid, the Witch should be elected President. It also potentially exposes itself to FEC charges if the Witch's operatives accuse it of making an in kind contribution to the Obama campaign.

10 posted on 03/22/2007 5:45:00 AM PDT by libstripper (AS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: libstripper

Could be the simplest explanation. Free pub for apple.


11 posted on 03/22/2007 5:47:46 AM PDT by carolinalivin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: bigcat32
Is it too close to the truth?

Yes, it is.
12 posted on 03/22/2007 5:52:01 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: carolinalivin

Why would somebody as experienced as de Vellis march into the teeth of the copyright law with a blantant infringing derivative work unless he had prior assurance from the copyright holder that no action would be taken against him? It doesn't make sense.


13 posted on 03/22/2007 5:52:59 AM PDT by libstripper (AS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: mikeybaby
At least we could be sure that there was at least one person involved with the Republican campaign effort with a brain and a little spine.

The dems have a long history of saying how "the republicans play dirty" and go after their candidates using "dirty" advertising. Nothing but projection. the dems always go dirty. The notorious "flowers" ad? Dem. Willie Horton? Dem. Over and over again.

Mark

14 posted on 03/22/2007 5:56:50 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: libstripper

I don't know. I really don't care. Intersting point to me is if the O said they didn't do it, but one of his people did. I like to track the lies.


15 posted on 03/22/2007 6:01:47 AM PDT by carolinalivin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: libstripper

Too conspiratorial.

Having "photoshopped" some things myself on a whim, I can see how the editor, already being in the political arena and having plenty of editing equipment at home (i.e.: cheap PC with free software), just happend to think it was a pretty neat idea, whipped it up, and tossed it out on YouTube.

Some years ago I whipped up an animated .gif (serious content) over the Elian Gonzolas affair. Stuck it on my website, posted a single link on FR late at night, and went to bed. No harm intended, just sharing a neat idea. Next morning (long story short) Drudge had linked it, my ISP's ISP had melted down, and the Associated Press wanted a word with me. Trust me, I know how these things can get out of hand fast - _without_ being conspiratorial.


16 posted on 03/22/2007 6:04:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Mia T

Ping?


17 posted on 03/22/2007 6:06:56 AM PDT by OKSooner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: libstripper
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!

That is quite a theory you have come up with but what is the simplest explanation?

18 posted on 03/22/2007 1:52:31 PM PDT by CJ-50
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: libstripper
A great deal. By allowing this extraordinary use of its ad, its logo, and the clip of the female athlete Apple puts itself in the position of being subject to serious retaliation by the Clinton forces, both in the form of potential individual boycotts and, far worse, the retaliatory denial of government contracts if, God forbid, the Witch should be elected President. It also potentially exposes itself to FEC charges if the Witch's operatives accuse it of making an in kind contribution to the Obama campaign.

That's a real stretch. Just because they choose not to prosecute an unauthorized use of their material, when they have chosen not to prosecute broadcast of the same material for years on youtube, they made a contribution to Obama? Hardly extraordinary, there are tons of these kinds of mashups floating around on youtube.

Your logic is extremely tortured. The only way it would make sense would be if they did stop equivalent mashups against obama, which they have not (some are already floating around).

I confidently predict none of what you claim will occur.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

19 posted on 03/23/2007 6:08:38 AM PDT by drangundsturm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson