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Baptist: Giuliani won't get our votes
News and Observer ^ | 3/22/07 | Yonat Shimron

Posted on 03/22/2007 4:24:28 PM PDT by pissant

A top leader in the Southern Baptist Convention predicted that former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani would not succeed in winning the votes of Southern Baptists if he were to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008.

In brief comments after a chapel service at the North Carolina legislature on Wednesday, Richard Land, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said former U.S. House speaker Newt Gingrich would likely fail for the same reason.

"Three is one marriage too many for them," said Land, referring to the 16.4 million members of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant group. Both Giuliani and Gingrich have been married three times.

A friend and adviser to President Bush, Land keeps close watch on politics as head of the commission, which studies moral, social, and religious liberty issues for the convention.

Though Southern Baptists are independent and do not necessarily follow his counsel, Land said three others who have already entered the presidential fray were more likely to win support among Southern Baptists. Those three are Sam Brownback, a Republican Senator from Kansas, Michael Huckabee, the former Republican governor of Arkansas, and Duncan Hunter, Republican Congressman from California.

As for Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, who is a Mormon, Land didn't rule him out. But, he said, the Republican hopeful has to convince the American people that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints won't dictate his policy. Land said he met with Romney recently and told him: "That's not a hill that can't be climbed. But you're going to have to climb it."

Finally, Land said he sensed that U.S. Senator John McCain was perceived as a wild card.

"People are uncomfortable with his predictability," said Land. "They tell me, 'We don't know how he's going to come down on the issues.'"


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: giuliani; nonchristian; rudy
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To: Clemenza

Exactly. My own Catholicism lapsed long ago, but I don't go around still claiming to be one either.


21 posted on 03/22/2007 4:37:46 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: traditional1
Again, there are NO true conservative Republican announced candidates yet.

John Cox -- http://www.cox2008.com/cox/

22 posted on 03/22/2007 4:38:40 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: darkangel82

BTW: Do you resemble Jessica "Dark Angel" Alba?


23 posted on 03/22/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: pissant

Dick Land

YAWN


24 posted on 03/22/2007 4:39:51 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: traditional1

Hunter is as clean as a whistle, but the alleged wrongdoings will be sure to emerge, as will the fact that he has not been charged with squat over any of that. And I'll put up Hunters credibility any day of the week over what is or is not needed by the armed forces.


25 posted on 03/22/2007 4:40:30 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

lol


26 posted on 03/22/2007 4:40:39 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: pissant
"A top leader in the Southern Baptist Convention predicted that former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani would not succeed in winning the votes of Southern Baptists if he were to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008."

Does this sound like they are talking about the primaries?

27 posted on 03/22/2007 4:40:46 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: pissant

Its along time till we all decide....but this is no surprise.


28 posted on 03/22/2007 4:40:57 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Clemenza

I think I'd have to change sexes to do that. So no. :)


29 posted on 03/22/2007 4:42:24 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: pissant

They'd rather have Hillary Clinton?


30 posted on 03/22/2007 4:43:39 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: pissant

Southern Baptists who won't vote for an Italian Catholic....I'll alert the media.


31 posted on 03/22/2007 4:44:01 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: HitmanLV; Victoria Delsoul
"I guess two is ok, then. Somebody stop this guy when he starts making sense. :-)"

Anyone can make a mistake. I think what he is saying that twice is allowing for one mistake. Three times begins to look like a habit.

32 posted on 03/22/2007 4:45:03 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: pissant

..mark this Southern Baptist down as a NO...


33 posted on 03/22/2007 4:46:24 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: pissant

I am a raise Southern Baptist, been visiting Methodist Church, (because I am sick of SBC telling me what to think and who to vote for) but I for one just very well MIGHT VOTE FOR RUDY


34 posted on 03/22/2007 4:46:59 PM PDT by JFC
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To: TommyDale

Of all people, Southern Baptists, or any Christians for that matter, should believe in repentance and redemption.

Redeemed! How I love to proclaim it.
Redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
Redeemed by His infinite mercy.
His child and forever I am!


35 posted on 03/22/2007 4:47:54 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: pissant

Yes, but look at that pristine only married once record! And let's not forget that Ronald Reagan had a broken marriange and was rather estranged from his son -- he turned out to be an OK president, didn't he?


36 posted on 03/22/2007 4:48:20 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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To: Past Your Eyes

Southern Baptist have a way with JUDGING Others!

I do not like that about them..............


37 posted on 03/22/2007 4:48:44 PM PDT by JFC
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To: pissant

I have no problem with being leery of a divorced guy (I don't agree with it as a general principle, but I can understand it), but the idea that two marriages is ok, but three is one too much, strikes me as strange, silly, and unintentionally comical.


38 posted on 03/22/2007 4:48:55 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

They just won't vote , it's plain and simple. I suspect many gun owners will sit it out as well.


39 posted on 03/22/2007 4:49:46 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (LIBERALS : -- ROMNEY DEFEATS THEM -- RUDY GUNBANDIANI EMBRACES THEM !)
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To: Past Your Eyes

That I might be redeemed.
That I might be redeemed.
The Father sent His only Son
That I might be redeemed.


40 posted on 03/22/2007 4:49:56 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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