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1 posted on 03/24/2007 3:48:38 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

lawyers, Liars; same thing.


2 posted on 03/24/2007 3:51:06 AM PDT by pankot
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To: Jacquerie

I know a lot of lawyer jokes:

1. The devil visited a lawyer's office and made him an offer. "I can arrange some things for you, " the devil said. "I'll increase your income five-fold. Your partners will love you; your clients will respect you; you'll have four months of vacation each year and live to be a hundred. All I require in return is that your wife's soul, your children's souls, and their children's souls rot in hell for eternity."

The lawyer thought for a moment. "What's the catch?" he asked.

My take on lawyers, they are a necessary evil sometimes but I don't believe that they should be on the battlefield unless they are on the front line with a target on their foreheads.


4 posted on 03/24/2007 4:34:12 AM PDT by flynmudd (Terrorists Running Away From US Soldiers Just Makes Them Die Tired)
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To: Jacquerie
The rat showed exactly why it was so awful for the stay at home conservative useful idiots to put him in charge. Those who did not stay home please don't bother to Freep mail me. I'm in no mood for lame talk about how it was the Reagan democrats who stayed home. Anyone who happens to be still registered as a Democrat but has voted GOP since Reagan is just as much a conservative Republican as anyone else.If you say it was them that stayed home you just re-enforce my assertion. If you want to make the argument that it was them that stayed home, save it. Limbaugh is in a better position to recognize it was the stay at home conservative useful idiots( registered democrat or Republican) that brought this situation about and he talks about it regularly so if the trust hurts argue with him. Those that stayed home are as guilty as the rat.
5 posted on 03/24/2007 4:38:56 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (google the "Verses of the Sword" to understand our Islamist enemies.)
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To: Jacquerie
Fighting a war with 535 generals

The acronym REMF springs to mind.

10 posted on 03/24/2007 5:13:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Jacquerie

Rule #217 from Sun Tzus Art of War: Fire, imprison, or execute all lawyers before engaging the enemy.


13 posted on 03/24/2007 5:23:43 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Jacquerie
Jack Murtha and a bunch of old guys in Congress are trying to tell our young men, who are risking their lives overseas, how they should run their war.

If I remember correctly, libs said they were against this type of thing during the Vietnam War.

15 posted on 03/24/2007 5:43:40 AM PDT by syriacus (Truman as president: Korean War; 30,000 US deaths; full wartime censorship; military draft)
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To: Jacquerie

We need more generals. Fighting a war with 535 politicians is doomed for failure.

Islam very leisurely opens up command and control centers on our soil, and has a 4-moom imam program an army.


16 posted on 03/24/2007 5:45:59 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Jacquerie; xzins; P-Marlowe; Gamecock
This title is a little misleading. the 535 generals to whom the Title refers are the 435 Representatives and the 100 Senators. It is unfortunate that the Congress feels the need to micromanage military policy. Unfortunately, the Constitution does give Congress this power ("to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces"). They feel this need to intervene, however, after a counter-insurgency that can only be described as disastrous. (Even the Administration has done so.) Congress, in typical fashion, is going off half-cocked because of a very real problem. They'll probably make matters worse by meddling, but they're doing so because they're frightened about the situation in which we find ourselves - a bitter insurgency that we have only barely contained.

A separate issue is the use of lawyers in operational law for the military. The article is right that some military commanders are relying upon JAG lawyers to give them fire-no fire advice. This is the bed we made when we started trying military commanders for war crimes, starting with Capt. Wirz from Andersonville through the Nuremberg trials. We ourselves set up an entire International Law apparatus which limits what we can do militarily. We bound ourselves by the Geneva Conventions, which tell us we must limit collateral damage as best as we can - and we can't just duck those protocols. Furthermore, Congress has criminalized violations of Geneva in 18 U.S.C. 2441. So, yes, commanders need to know if their actions are acceptable under Geneva - and it is a good idea to consult a lawyer when the stakes are that high.

I don't know specifics regarding the military strike that was nixed (and that is a key failing of this article - it uses vagueness to try to whip up a hysterical response, but doesn't explain why the JAG objected to the strike. We don't know if his objections were valid, but can only take the author's word for it.), but it is not impossible to imagine situations where it would not be worth the collateral damage to take out a particular target and would be necessary to wait for another opportunity. Sometimes waiting leads to tragic and unfortunate consequences, but America long ago decided "win at all costs" was not an acceptable policy.

20 posted on 03/24/2007 6:18:38 AM PDT by jude24
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To: Jacquerie

Boot all the liars out of the military and get on with fighting the war to win.


21 posted on 03/24/2007 7:00:00 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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27 posted on 03/24/2007 9:45:40 AM PDT by Gritty (Fighting the jihad in the courtroom means you?ll lose - Mark Steyn)
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To: Jacquerie
Don't worry about this stuff, guys. George W. Bush is a very strong leader and an extremely effective Commander in Chief. He won't let this go on for very much longer.

/sarcasm

28 posted on 03/24/2007 9:47:44 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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