Posted on 03/24/2007 4:48:47 AM PDT by RoadTest
WASHINGTON (Map, News) - The top American general in Afghanistan has expelled a U.S. Marine special operations company for the way the men responded to an ambush March 4, Marine sources said.
Maj. Cliff Gilmore, a spokesman for Marine Special Operations Command, confirmed to The Examiner that the company of 120 Marines is redeploying.
He said the decision followed an ambush on the company's convoy by a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device. A second Marine source said the Marines retaliated and some civilians were killed.
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When you go to war you cannot tell troops who to shoot on the battlefield. and you cant cut the legs out from under them afterward.
bttt
Whatever you do, fellas, don't shoot back. FGS!
Would we better off expelling all the JAGs instead?
So our guys have to get a rule book out every time they are ambushed???
Never mentioned is the fact that they have to fight combattants who wear no military uniforms.
citizens shouldn't allow the bad guys in
followup,,,, when they do, the citizen is part of problem
Marines are problem solvers
Perhaps the "top American general" should be "re-deployed"
instead.....to Berkeley!
The war will NEVER be won as long as political correctness and stupid-ass liberalism replaces a sound, aggressive military strategy.
Another PC general. I hope this is Eikenberrys last posting, he's a danger to the men under his command.
I suppose this is better than sending prosecutors in to trump up charges against them. The USA will never win another war until the troops are relieved of the burden of being PC, having embedded lawyers, embedded journalists, and rules of engagement that conform to European or French standards.
It was the intelligent thing to do.
True enough. But unfortunately the only way that'll ever happen is if America finds itself fighting for its very survival. ....which it is, of course, but most Americans don't yet realize it.
Unfortunately, this sort of PCism is a hallmark of the ruling elites (who are clearly more highly evolved than the rest of us) of both parties in this country. Its an evil thing to ask the military to fight and die, or come home in pieces, under men like this but for heaven's sake don't do what they need to do to protect themselves and win.
Dear President Bush,
Could we please just nuke the bastards?
Sincerely,
knarf
Amen, brother.
Normally I might side with conventional weapons over nukes, but the animals we are fighting are just animals. It we started using small tactical nukes every time we got a report of OBL it might finally sink in to these animals that we mean business and they might give him up out of self preservation. The world opinion would condemn us, but we are a superpower. What good is it is you are a superpower and don't act like one.
The war will be won when the civilian population both fears and hates us. They hate us already. Giving them something to fear is what is needed now. They have no incentive to turn in the bad guys.
Do you simply take your losses and run away? That's the preferred Army doctrine. It avoids civilian casualties, but it also establishes a hunter/hunted relationship with the enemy in the hunter position. That's a direct mental victory for them, and a loss for us. It also encourages them to use these tactics, for years on end.
Do you attempt to engage your attackers? Hard to do when you don't know who they are, hiding as they do among civilians. They're not afraid to die, and they're not only willing to sacrifice civilians, they're trying to get us to kill them on accident. Events like this and Haditha aren't lucky coincidences for them. It's doctrine. Captured training manuals state they are directed to try and engineer *atrocities* that our media will pick up on.
No matter what you do, that media is there, ready to announce your sins to the world, while the Inquisitors from JAG ready the gallows.
"Victory" has long ago been replaced by "don't cause bad press". That's our policy now, and our side won't hesitate to crucify you over it.
Our Generals have become nut-less politicians and ceased to be warriors. The days of "Blood and Guts" Patton are long gone.
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