Posted on 03/27/2007 6:32:11 AM PDT by pissant
Play along with me this morning. Would you vote for the following candidate? This person supports parental notification laws and a ban on partial birth abortion; is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and believes mariage is between a man and a woman. Don't look any further. In your mind, does this candidate seem attractive? Yes or No?
Guess what. That's how Rudy Giuliani describes himself. If you go to his website, that's how he lays out his positions on three very sensitive topics. What about this bleeding heart socially liberal Republican. As you might imagine, it is nowhere to be found on his website. The Brody File has pulled the three parapgraphs from his website that lay out his position on abortion, guns and marriage.
Abortion:
"Rudy Giuliani supports reasonable restrictions on abortion such as parental notification with a judicial bypass and a ban on partial birth abortion – except when the life of the mother is at stake. He’s proud that adoptions increased 66% while abortions decreased over 16% in New York City when he was Mayor. But Rudy understands that this is a deeply personal moral dilemma, and people of good conscience can disagree respectfully. Ultimately he believes that it is a decision between a woman, her doctor, her family, and her God."
Guns:
"Rudy Giuliani is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. When he was Mayor of a city suffering an average of almost 2000 murders a year, he protected people by getting illegal handguns out of the hands of criminals. As a result, shootings fell by 72% and the murder rate was cut by two-thirds. But Rudy understands that what works in New York doesn’t necessarily work in Mississippi or Montana."
Marriage:
"Rudy Giuliani believes marriage is between a man and a woman. He does not - and has never - supported gay marriage. But he believes in equal rights under law for all Americans. That's why he supports domestic partnerships that provide stability for committed partners in important legal and personal matters, while preserving the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman."
If you were an Evangelical who just stepped onto this Earth from Planet Pluto (oh wait,sorry, Pluto is no longer a Planet. I thought scientists were "always" right?), after reading that, you may not understand why a large segment of Evangelicals may have a problem with Rudy. But the religious conservatives who live here on Earth might think those paragraphs on his website are just a tad bit disengenous. Actually, now that I think of it, I'm sure others have a much different word for it. Does the way he portrays himself on his website bother you or do you just chalk it up to political spin just like every other candidate out there? Comments?
You are a friggin johnny-one-note. Are you capable of another thought. Explain the difference between the fraud that is Rudy and Hitlary. What a bore you are.
Oh, of course. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is full of it!
That's kinda exactly the attitude I'm enjoying in you. :-D
Once again, I reference the GOP platform. Rudy's views are more consistent with the Dem platform in many areas, such as gun control, abortion, gay rights, global warming, amnesty and sanctuary.
Do you know the difference between a conservative and a republican? Actually, spare me your bullshit!
Yes I do.
The nutjobs? Unbelievable. You might just get the Republican party you dream of and you certainly deserve it.
BTW, a vote for Rudy IS a vote for the Democrats.
A liberal is a liberal, no matter what letter he puts next to his name.
"BTW, a non vote IS a vote for the Democrats."
That statement is stuck on stupid.
If a Dem doesn't vote, is that a vote for the Republicans?
"By your definition."
If you want a dictionary, I suggest wikipedia.
PS - If you go there and look up "RINO", you will see Rudy's picture.
"you prefer hillary?"
I do.
The GOP linguini-spines would rule Congress under Rudy.
Under Hillary, the Conservative wing of the party would have much more influence and play real opposition politics.
4 or 8 more years of RINO rule will be doom for conservatism and little-l libertarianism.
"I cannot imagine why any evangelical would vote for Rudy in the primaries."
I'm a right-wing Jewboy gun nut and I wouldn't vote for that liberal loser, either.
That also describes most Rudy supporters.
"You are seriously delusional! If you cannot tell the difference between Rudy and Clinton (either one), you cannot tell sh** from Shinola."
You're right. At least Hillary honored her marriage.
You spend all your time on a conservative website encouraging the GOP to run leftwards and abandon conservative values. And then call conservatives nutjobs. Why don't you find a more liberal website?
Oh, right, cuz you folks are the sole arbitrators of what conservative means, right, forgot about that memo from God.
:-D
If you can slow down long enough, consider the idea that other folks have slightly different ideas of what 'conservatism' mean . . . many of us define conservative as "for the conservative use of federal power". Y'know, the 'contract with America' stuff.
You can define 'conservative' for yourself, in any way you want. Just don't be surprised when the rest of the world sometimes doesn't use your dictionary!
Um -- so the R party platform is now the bible for defining conservatism?
Believe it or not, this isn't a universally accepted standard for defining a political philosophy . . . many planks in the GOP platform are not politically conservative.
I'd more point to 'the contract with America'. THAT is a defining politically conservative document. It didn't say anything about gays, guns, abortion, etc. It was about 'conservative political issues' like lower taxes, local control, that kind of thing.
Hey, you can define 'Conservative' to suit your own purposes, no problem. Just stop being so angry and incensed when the rest of the world doesn't use your own self-serving dictionary!
Oh, I see. Now I get it. Thanks for the clarification.
"Conservatives" can join the Giuliani campaign, just as long as they do not do, say or think anything conservative.
Forgive me. I forgot for a moment we live in the US--not in a Third World banana republic where thoughts and speech are controlled.
Just a reminder----checklist of things conservatives cannot say in Giuliani's presence:
"wholesale slaughter of the helpless unborn;"
"pedophilia is considered a civil right by the gay rights movement;"
"regulation of 2A as a substantial effects test is not a test; it is a blank check."
I wouldn't want conservatives in the Giuliani camp to screw-up and say the wrong thing.
We don't need a memo from God. We got one from Jim Robinson. You apparently didn't get it, so here it is.
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