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Missile Witnesses Needed Now - TWA 800
WorldNet Daily ^ | 29 March 2007 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/29/2007 11:25:45 AM PDT by Hal1950

What prompts this column is an e-mail I received last week from a retired USNR commander and former TWA pilot, with whom I had had no prior contact.

He recounted a conversation that he had shortly after the mid-air destruction of TWA Flight 800 on July 17, 1996, off the coast of Long Island. He had a particular interest in the plane's demise for two reasons. One is that he was a qualified accident investigator. The second is that he had flown that very same flight a week earlier.

"It had to be a bloody missile, probably an un-armed Tomahawk, going for center-of-mass," he said to a senior flight manager of his acquaintance. "They were most likely going for a target drone and testing their capability to go-through normal aircraft traffic to get at the target."

The flight manager agreed and recounted what he had been told by a maintenance foreman at the investigation hangar on Long Island.

"They had this curtained area over in the corner with Marine armed guards in front," the foreman had told him. "But, I did see one of the right mainmounts that had a crease out of it, as if something round had passed through it. And, to me, it sure looked like an 'entry' and 'exit' hole in the fuselage."

I cite this e-mail for two reasons. One is that the accepted wisdom among many TWA pilots immediately after the crash matches closely the detailed account of what transpired, at least as reported in an extraordinarily comprehensive anonymous review that I and investigator Ray Lahr received a few months ago.

The second reason is that all of the best eyewitness accounts that I have received that might verify this scenario are second-hand. In fact, no one that I know has talked to anyone who witnessed the firing of the fatal missiles.

My partner in this investigation, James Sanders, had developed any number of discreet first-hand sources in 1996-1997, but all of these sources "went away after we were indicted." The "we" refers to James and his wife, Elizabeth, at the time a TWA trainer, both of whom eventually were convicted of the bogus charge of conspiracy to steal airplane parts.

If an eyewitness were to come forward, now would be a good time, a safer time as well. The true story might derail the ambitions of a candidate or two – Al Gore for sure, Hillary probably – but the major media would be more willing to listen before either became the party's nominee. If either is elected president, the story dies.

I can be contacted through my website, cashill.com, and Ray Lahr through his, raylahr.com.

I have sent "The Review" to perhaps 100 people with more technical expertise than I, and it has impressed everyone that I have heard from. Unlike the subjunctive dithering of the NTSB report, The Review is declarative and confident and tells its tale with the dense technical poetry of a Patrick O'Brian novel.

According to The Review's author, the first missile, the one that destroyed the plane, was large and, if not un-armed, at least failed to explode. The missile shot above TWA Flight 800, found its mark and descended on it from the rear.

"The missile's momentum was high enough to pitch the nose of the aircraft sharply upward when it landed on the top of the stabilizer," claims the author, "and alter its heading to the right when it hit the body. The missile's supersonic speed caused these changes to occur nearly simultaneously."

The stabilizer is the horizontal part of the tail. The elevator is the movable control on the stabilizer. A hydraulically driven device called the "jackscrew," located in front of the tail, changes the stabilizer's pitch angle, which causes the plane to pitch up or down.

So much information is loaded into the recovered jackscrew that author and Air Force vet Tom Kovach calls it the "Rosetta Stone" of the disaster, "the one piece of the aircraft that proves the high-speed action events that brought down Flight 800."

Apparently, the missile smashed into the stabilizer with more force than the jackscrew could handle, so much force in fact that it ripped the forearm-thick steel of the jackscrew in half. This same force pushed the tail violently down and the nose up and wrenched the plane into an aerodynamic stall. Unable to take the extra stress from the aircraft's sudden up-pitch, the wing tips fractured simultaneously.

The violent upward pitch of the plane whipsawed the fuselage and snapped the rigid keel beam, which runs under the length of the fuselage. The missile meanwhile skipped off the stabilizer and into the right side of the fuselage, which had flipped up nearly vertically and to the right.

The savage force of this combined action ripped the cockpit off of the plane, which, along with the front of the keel beam and the air conditioning units, plunged into the sea before the rest of the plane did the same.

The Review author deduced this in large part from the debris field and physical evidence, like the fractured jackscrew, but there is more evidence, of course, namely the testimony of the eyewitnesses.

From her Fire Island deck, FBI witness No. 150 watched a shiny, cylindrical wingless object move at high speed from north to south. She then noticed the object head toward "a large commercial airliner" traveling east at the same altitude. The airliner "simply 'stopped' at that moment," she told the FBI.

"As the plane came apart, its nose turned up and to the right," her FBI 302 continues. "She could see windows on the top right side of front of the plane, even though she had previously been able to see only along its spine."

"The front was carried forward and arced down with its momentum," the 302 adds. "The right wing seemed to stay with the plane."

Six days after the crash, weeks before any of this information became public, witness No. 150 described the break-up sequence of TWA Flight 800 almost perfectly. She was one of more than 750 eyewitnesses that the FBI interviewed.

Another such witness, No. 551, tracked TWA Flight from his window seat on US Air 217 overhead. He watched the 747 for 30-40 seconds as it flew eastward, its cabin lights still on. Then he saw the front of the plane explode. "The plane seemed to stop in mid air like a bus running into a stone wall – no forward motion," he told the FBI.

The Review author believes that No. 551 was describing the same dramatic stall, a result of the missile impact that No. 150 described, likely the first blow of three. The author does not try to guess the missile's provenance, but he rules out a Stinger or similar shoulder-fired missile. One can infer from what he writes that the lethal missile was likely a product of the U.S. Navy or a NATO ally.

Dwight Brumley, a retired 25-year United States Navy master chief, also watched the incident from US Air 217. He is among those Navy people who believes that if this missile had come off of a sub or a cruiser, "Somebody would talk to somebody about what they knew (or at least suspected)."

Brumley thinks it possible that there was a test of a defensive missile system by a black ops team that went awry. More likely, he speculates, "We were completely caught with our pants down and TWA 800 was just flat out shot down by an unknown missile."

"I just know," Brumley tells me, "that I saw something streaking up toward TWA 800 and that after the initial explosion she never climbed anymore. No 'zoom climb.'"

If someone knows more or different, we would certainly like to hear from him.


TOPICS: Unclassified
KEYWORDS: aerospace; doublefoilwithatwist; flight800; jackcashill; twa800; twaflight800; wnd
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To: infidel29
As did Stephanolopos shortly after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

There are facilities in the White House, not the normal situation room, which everyone has seen in the past, has seen pictures of. There is a second situation room, behind the primary situation room, which has video conferencing capabilities. The director of the Pentagon, the defense chief, can speak from a national military command center at the Pentagon. The Secretary of State can speak from the State Department, the President from wherever he is, and they'll have this capability for video conferencing throughout this crisis.

In my time at the White House it was used in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, in the aftermath of the TWA Flight 800 bombing, and that would be the way they would stay in contact through the afternoon.

41 posted on 03/29/2007 12:03:21 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: Zeroisanumber; unkus
You are so correct. If there was some sort of conspiracy to cover up a missile, how many people would have to be involved. Just as you said, you have everyone on board the ship or plane that shot the missile would be a possible witness (for the sake of argument, let's say 500 people.)
Then we have all the investigators (c200 people.) Of course, you also have all the people in government who know 'the truth' (another 500 or so). You then have the folks who were involved with the recovery (another 300.)

That leaves a guesstimate of 1,500 people with direct knowledge of what happened. Consider that each of those 1,500 people, even with the threats by the men in black told two people, who in turn told one person. We are now up to 6,000 people who 'know the truth' but are silent.

But we aren't done. Because there has to be men in black enforcers who know the truth. To keep 6,000 people quiet, you'll need at least 600 MIBs intimidating them. You then have the MIB's handlers, and their overseers. I could keep going and going and going...
42 posted on 03/29/2007 12:03:56 PM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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To: mnehrling

Thank you. Good points.


43 posted on 03/29/2007 12:08:13 PM PDT by unkus
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To: 66-442hot

Yes,
But their normal flight profile takes then down close to the surface (couple of hundred feet) so the terrain following radar (imagine how much success it had following the ocean) can image the terrain below. And for you sharpshooters out there, it uses inertal guidance till it gets over land, then establishes where it is relative to it's terrain database, then make corrections to close on it's target.


44 posted on 03/29/2007 12:15:58 PM PDT by Colorado Mike (Lord, help me be the Conservative my enemies think I am.)
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To: mnehrling
And we all know how good all government employees are at keeping secrets, right?

I'm not an aviation safety expert, and I have no idea if the experts are correct that a center fuel tank explosion brought down flight 800, but I do know what a government cover-up looks like, and this ain't no cover-up.

45 posted on 03/29/2007 12:16:21 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

These guys make sure the secret is safe.

46 posted on 03/29/2007 12:19:33 PM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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To: NonValueAdded

I'm reading the follow-up to that book now!


47 posted on 03/29/2007 12:21:13 PM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: SampleMan

Has a Tomahawk EVER been fired at a moving target, let alone one 15,000 in the air, traveling at 400 mph?


48 posted on 03/29/2007 12:22:26 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Lancey Howard
"I suspect that much of the classified documentation that Sandy Berger stole from the National Archives and destroyed was related to this tragedy."

Suspect it dit. Here's some more Cashill background on that:

worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54006

49 posted on 03/29/2007 12:23:18 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Robe

Yea the Tomahawk reference blows this all to he!!. There are many reasons why that would never happen, but for one thing, a Tomahawk is the size of a telephone pole and almost impossible to miss by many witnesses (not to forget the entire crew of a ship).


50 posted on 03/29/2007 12:24:13 PM PDT by RDTF (They should have put down Barbarella instead of Barbaro)
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To: Hal1950
If an eyewitness were to come forward, now would be a good time, a safer time as well.

Sorry Mr. Cashill, Mr. Salinger is taking a dirt nap.

51 posted on 03/29/2007 12:25:01 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: mgstarr

I'm sure Bush knows what happened...


GHWB


52 posted on 03/29/2007 12:25:27 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Southack
It was a missile. It wasn't one of ours. It was fired by a terror organization, as witnessed by the White House war room activity at the time.

Agreed. Note that there have been no repetitions.

Our guys have been on the job.

53 posted on 03/29/2007 12:26:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (God: Always, In All Ways.)
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To: Robe

That is the first thing I noticed. It is like the tv newsreader that calls every rifle an "assault rifle".


54 posted on 03/29/2007 12:26:09 PM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: SpinnerWebb

Background setup: US sponsored NATO War games off the Atlantic coast. A small pleasure boat, painted to look militarily official in the waters near but not in the "no-go zone"; easily mistakable for either adventure-seekers or observers. Due to the time of day and the presence of the Coast Guard, not many witnesses around.

Scenario: A (CIA sponsored?) weapons sale to an international representative (Hamas? Isreal?, Iran?, doesitmatter?). Weapon being considered - high-tech, shoulder-fired missile. The seller points out and tells the buyer to try it out on one of the many target drones flying around. The buyer, being of low moral capacity aims it at an out-bound passenger plane and pulls the trigger.

If it ain't true, it would make good TV/cinema!


55 posted on 03/29/2007 12:26:56 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: DPMD

I remember reading here many moons ago that Jamie Gorelick visited Kjallstrom in New York and that the entire investigation changed course immediately afterward from foul play to equipment failure/spark/other nonsense. Messenger from Clinton says no terrorism here, CIA publishes a video explaining the equipment failure and the public is denied the truth once again..............


56 posted on 03/29/2007 12:27:56 PM PDT by Stayfree (FLUSH HILLARY CALENDARS ARE THE BEST WAY TO RID US OF THE CLINTONS!!!)
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To: Stayfree

Had to! Hillary couldn't Ron Brown to meet her in Ft. Marcy Park...


57 posted on 03/29/2007 12:30:21 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
...couldn't get Ron Brown...

sheesh

58 posted on 03/29/2007 12:31:02 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Zeroisanumber
Not a subsonic Tomahawk. That's too slow to catch a jumbo jet, that's funny.

If the TWA800 crash was then caused by some spontaneous fuel combustion in the center fuel tank or some faulty wiring, according NTSB investigators, there would have been many more airplanes breaking up in flight.

The older some still flying McDonnell-Douglas DC-3 (or military C-47) used high octane aviation gas while Boeing 747 use Jet A-1, a kerosene grade. How come there were no DC-3's crash caused by this spontaneous fuel combustion?

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” --Joseph Goebbels

59 posted on 03/29/2007 12:31:49 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: chad_in_georgia
Because everybody in D.C. does it...
in fact, every agency and every elected/appointed official has armies of cover-up experts covering every exposed @ss.
Its no wonder nothing ever gets done, because they're all so busy covering each other's @sses.
60 posted on 03/29/2007 12:33:17 PM PDT by Stayfree (FLUSH HILLARY CALENDARS ARE THE BEST WAY TO RID US OF THE CLINTONS!!!)
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