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1 posted on 03/29/2007 11:25:47 AM PDT by Hal1950
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"Another such witness, No. 551, tracked TWA Flight from his window seat on US Air 217 overhead. He watched the 747 for 30-40 seconds as it flew eastward, its cabin lights still on. Then he saw the front of the plane explode."

Off-duty pilots tracking other planes while on board?


2 posted on 03/29/2007 11:30:42 AM PDT by Froufrou
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NightFall!


3 posted on 03/29/2007 11:31:30 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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4 posted on 03/29/2007 11:32:56 AM PDT by pabianice
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I'm sure Bush knows what happened...


6 posted on 03/29/2007 11:34:53 AM PDT by mgstarr (People shouldn't fear their government, governments should fear their people.)
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This really distracts from other possibilities. Such as an attack by Iraqi spec ops.


11 posted on 03/29/2007 11:36:59 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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"It had to be a bloody missile, probably an un-armed Tomahawk, going for center-of-mass,"

Does this gentleman know what a Tomahawk is?

12 posted on 03/29/2007 11:37:06 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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The investigation into TWA 800 seems typical to me of the sort of heavy-handed corruption the Clinton mafia was noted for during his time as Godfather of the US. What distressed me more than that, though, was the apparent complicity, in my opinion, of the FBI, and particularly the New York SAC, James Kjallstrom. I would like to see him provide some honest answers about that debacle, and explain why apparently credible and honest witnesses were not only ignored but intimidated and harassed. There was so much information put out that contradicted the ongoing "official findings" that they could not be ignored, but only suppressed through force, which they apparently were. That only happens in a Mob atmosphere.


14 posted on 03/29/2007 11:37:48 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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A cruise missile...trying to hit a drone....


SUUURREEEE it was


16 posted on 03/29/2007 11:38:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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It was a missile. It wasn't one of ours. It was fired by a terror organization, as witnessed by the White House war room activity at the time.


18 posted on 03/29/2007 11:39:09 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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I suspect that much of the classified documentation that Sandy Berger stole from the National Archives and destroyed was related to this tragedy.


22 posted on 03/29/2007 11:41:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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probably an un-armed Tomahawk, going for center-of-mass

You can stop reading right there, this idiot does not have a clue what he is babbling about............

24 posted on 03/29/2007 11:42:38 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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"According to The Review's author, the first missile, the one that destroyed the plane, was large and, if not un-armed, at least failed to explode. The missile shot above TWA Flight 800, found its mark and descended on it from the rear."

I don't think a spark from a frayed wire in the center tank brought down Flt. 800, but this is ridiculous. The first missile shot from above? Yeah, right. I have a friend who believes Cashill's only intent is to sell books. I am reluctantly starting to agree.

26 posted on 03/29/2007 11:45:14 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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28 posted on 03/29/2007 11:45:32 AM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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"It had to be a bloody missile, probably an un-armed Tomahawk, going for center-of-mass," he said to a senior flight manager of his acquaintance. "They were most likely going for a target drone and testing their capability to go-through normal aircraft traffic to get at the target."

I'm no expert, but when did we start using Tomahawks to shoot down airborne targets?

I'm very skeptical of the TWA 800 missile theory. Too many people, from the ship that fired the missile, to the FBI, to the accident investigators, and on up the chain of authority to the President would have had to keep quiet about it. By now, someone, somewhere would have come forward and showed who fired what and how it hit the airplane.

Also, even assuming that the government did institute a cover-up, why would they bother covering up in the first place? If a missile fired by a USN ship brought down the plane, then it would be easier and safer for the careers of all involved if they just came out and said that there had been a terrible accident. Why would Bill Clinton, of all people, risk his presidency and jail time for some screw-up, nobody, Navy captain? And that's not even mentioning the careers and possibly even future livelihoods of the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Transportation, easily a score of military brass, and hundreds of FBI and Dpt. of Transportation investigators.

The whole theory just doesn't track.

30 posted on 03/29/2007 11:46:34 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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I have one simple question.

Why would admitting it was a terrible accident of a training exercise gone awry be such a bad thing?

36 posted on 03/29/2007 11:53:03 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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Here we go again.

If the missile was fired from inside the main fuel tank and left no evidence a missile was used, I would be happy to believe this story.

I also believe the WTC was blown down because explosives can survive in a ragging fire.

No plane hit the Pentagon even though they found Amelia Erhart's body inside the Pentagon.

I haven't got time to research any of this because I am busy waiting for the Easter Bunny to hop by.


39 posted on 03/29/2007 12:01:53 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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"It had to be a bloody missile, probably an un-armed Tomahawk, going for center-of-mass," he said to a senior flight manager of his acquaintance. "They were most likely going for a target drone and testing their capability to go-through normal aircraft traffic to get at the target."

Easily the stupidest/most ignorant comment I've ever heard. Tomahawks don't have air-to-air capability, nor do they ever fly at that altitude. Nor would the US military EVER test a missile through commercial airspace. This idea is especially spacious given that the test suggested would provide meaningless data.

If this quote is real, I very much doubt the authenticity of the "Navy Commander" given that I've never met one that stupid.

40 posted on 03/29/2007 12:02:26 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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If an eyewitness were to come forward, now would be a good time, a safer time as well.

Sorry Mr. Cashill, Mr. Salinger is taking a dirt nap.

51 posted on 03/29/2007 12:25:01 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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There was not a missle. This is not a conspiracy. Your government would not lie. In fact, in history there has never been a conspiracy. Except those that the government has told us about. Go back to sleep, please. Nighty-night. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


81 posted on 03/29/2007 1:38:54 PM PDT by Desperately Seeking Freedom
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If anyone who reads Cashill's latest spew on TWA800 and still believes he is anything other than a ghoul and a con artist trying to make blood money off of a tragedy, then I suggest immediate psychological counseling. In addition to his ridiculous cruise missile theory, he also mention "witness no. 150" like she's a credible witness. Here is part of her witness statement regarding TWA 800...

"It was a "frozen" moment. As the plane came apart, its nose turned up and to the right. She thought it was odd that she could see windows on the top right side of the front of the plane, even though she had previously been able to see only along its spine. It was a 747, she knew, because it had a bump on the top. At first, "fissures" developed all over the plane, particularly showing the passenger windows on the top of the plane's bump and the cockpit. There was no "fiery explosion", like in the movies. Flames did not come out. The front was carried forward and arced down with its momentum. The right wing seemed to stay with the front of the plane. There was a crater on the left side along the top of the plane, just behind the left wing. A portion of the left wing began to fall separately"(Bold emphasis mine)

Sounds like some real useful testimony. Very helpful. Until you learn she was 26 MILES AWAY from TWA 800 when it blew up. Anyone who believes this lady could see cracks forming on a 747 that was at 13,000' and 26 miles away is probably also likely to believe Cashill is more than just a shyster looking to make a quick buck off a tragedy. But Cashill thinks she's worth listening to. At least the small snippet of her testimony he's willing to quote. Does anyone on this site really want to stick up for Cashill, or can we finally add him to the growing trash heap of discredited "journalists" that plague our country.

98 posted on 03/29/2007 4:05:58 PM PDT by Rokke
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