3,262 SERBS KILLED IN SREBRENICA AND BRATUNAC REGIONS (1992-1993)

Tanjug ^ | March 29, 2007

[joan]

28.3.2007 16:10 SREBRENICA, (Tanjug) - Advisor in the Belgrade Documents Center for Investigating Crimes Against Serbs, Strahinja Zivak, has said that the Center has processed documents and gathered data proving that a total of 3,262 Serbs were killed by Muslims in the region of Srebrenica, Bratunac and the neighborhood from 1992 - 93.

[Hoplite]

That's great Joan, but it doesn't alter what happened at Srebrenica one bit.

The mass graves which have yielded thousands and thousands of Srebrenica related execution victims still wearing blindfolds and ligatures don't require any of the perpetrators to confess in order to be understood - the evidence speaks for itself to all but those like you who have chosen to lie and deny rather than face the facts.

[joan]

Bodies far from Srebrenica, in Serbian villages where Naser Oric and the 28th Brigade killed Serbs, and in old WWII and WWI massacre areas are claimed as Muslims even though they are unidentified.

Any particular body they describe with ligatures or blindfolds they do not identify or name, nor do they have Muslim names along with an autopsy report for the body.

They use the bodies of Serbs killed by Muslims against Serbs.

There were definitely some Muslims who were killed in combat.

There's no distinguishing Muslims who died in combat from possible execution, this is meant to exaggerate the numbers for propaganda.

The pictures of dead Serbs, named, and more fresh from Muslim kills show a lot of butchery and mutilation, and often burning.

[Hoplite]

Yeah, yeah. I know.

Since we bitch-slapped the Bosnian Serbs into giving up the locations of the remaining undiscovered Srebrenica-related mass graves in 2004, and the Podrinje Identification Project has identified over 4,000 individuals gone missing from Srebrenica through DNA analysis of remains exhumed from Srebrenica related mass graves, all you have left is mindless regurgitation of what you've vomited up previously in your attempts to whitewash the Srebrenica genocide.

It's as boring as it is stupid.

[joan]

Identifying people from other places where the Muslims had a military base, such as Zepa. They include in the identified list those soldiers who fell in Zepa as well in your number of identified. Not just Srebrenica. And they include soldiers who died during the war, before July 1995.

[Hoplite]

Yeah, that's great Joan.

Per UN report on the fall of Srebrenica, the total number of missing from Zepa was 118.

You're such an incompetent liar you can't even be bothered to check to see if your lies are plausible in the first place.

[Barnsleys Beck]

Oh , his testimony in the Blagojevic and Jokic trial was way more crappy than merely just telling pork pies in the Hague.

The guy was a regular Walter Mitty, he lived in a bizarre cuckoo land world. He was implicated in a massive fraud after the war, he was detested, and I mean DETESTED by his men. They beat the shit out of him so badly he had to go to hospital for several months.

His testimony was at odds with previous statements he'd made, contradicted other prosecution witnesses and made absolutely no sense at all.

His testimony was sooooooo bad. It started of funny, became hysterical and finally you felt a tinge of sympathy for the liar.

Just a tinge mind.

[Barnsleys Beck]

From Hoplite:

"The mass graves which have yielded thousands and thousands of Srebrenica related execution victims still wearing blindfolds and ligatures"

Thousands of the Muslim bodies had blindfolds and ligatures?

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

[Barnsleys Beck]

Still waiting for the explanation that would account for the 40% casualty rate amongst the 28th Division.

Here's a clue, Hoplite, because you're such a good sport.

Ambush, artillery, starvation, infighting, mass suicides, mines

Surely you can join the dots now.

[Barnsleys Beck]

From Hoplite:

"thousands and thousands of Srebrenica related execution victims still wearing blindfolds and ligatures"

Boy that's funny. Even by your lofty standards.

You're on a roll.

[Barnsleys Beck]

You're a genius, Hoplite, really you are.

""The mass graves which have yielded thousands and thousands of Srebrenica related execution victims still wearing blindfolds and ligatures"

You wrote it dummkopf , now produce the evidence , schmuck-o-lite-o-brians , of " thousands of Srebrenica related execution victims still wearing blindfolds and ligatures"

Unless you provide the appropriate evidence you'll be for ever known as "Mr Hoppy liar liar pants on fire Lite"

Yes, it's that serious

[Barnsleys Beck]

Hoplite-o-baby , you spoke so glowingly of Momir Nikolic's testimony , didn't you?

Let's be honest now, you never actually bothered to read his crap did you? You just read the MSN - probably a bit of CNN with a bit of BBC chucked in and for the indepth bit you half read some ignorant IWPR bullshite - garbage for the trash handlers, that's all they're good for.

Am I right? Course I am.

We could spend forever and a day laughing over the sheer nonsense - we're talking nonsense to the n'th degree here folks - of what he said.

Let's take a very small look at his crap - here we'll see his penchant for lying. The guy was a natural , believe me.

http://www.un.org/icty/transe60/030929IT.htm

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Question:Let me just digress here for a second. You were a captain, were you not?

Nicolic:Yes.

Question:You weren't even a first-class captain, you were just a captain. Right?

Nikolic: That's right.

Qestion: You were not a major?

Answer:What do you mean, I was not a major? What do you mean? If I'm a captain, then of course I'm not a major.

Question:But you would on various occasions represent yourself to be a major.

)

Yes folks , the wee lad went round fibbing that he was some hot shot guy , whereas in fact he was a hated , and I mean a F*&^&*$ hated , nobody.

[Hoplite]

You have issues, and I don't mean only with what happened at Srebrenica.

But if it will help, here is the relevant portion of the closing statement from Mark Harmon at the Krstic trial:

Now, what are the findings of these experts who participated in these exhumations? I mentioned to Your Honours and I've shown Your
far, Mr. President and Your Honours, we know that a minimum number, and
this is a very conservative number, of 2.028 bodies have been recovered
from the sites thus far exhumed. At virtually all of these sites,
blindfolds or ligatures were found.

...

Now, there has been some suggestion by Defence witnesses that
these grave sites contain battle casualties; in other words, people who
lost their lives in active combat or were collateral damage, collateral
casualties. Now, as the experts who have testified about their findings
have made clear, it's preposterous, utterly preposterous to suggest that
the people who were blindfolded and who had their hands bound behind them
were battle casualties.

As to the defence's rebuttal of these assertions, there was none. Instead the defence chose to attempt to show that General Krstic hadn't taken over command of the Drina Corps when it was engaged in the mass execution of prisoners from Srebrenica or that the elements which were engaged in the mass executions weren't under Krstic's control.

Their lie'n'deny was dismissed as garbage, just as your and Joan's lie'n'deny is garbage.

Since Mr. Harmon's closing argument in 2001, exhumations of Srebrenica related mass graves have continued. (You will feel free to work yourself into a huff over the phrase "plastic and cloth bindings around the victim's arms", won't you?)

[joan]

But no names and id’s for the individual victims described, and given that so many remain unidentified (and therefore likely Serbs), he may be describing Serb victims of Muslims and Croats, including earlier wars (which were much bigger than the last one) in which victims were thrown in mass graves and they weren’t ever dug up or reburied.

[Barnsleys Beck]

Hoplite wrote

"You have issues"

I must say that's very Oprahish. You've really got to stop watching so much Dr. Phil.

BTW, I'm still laughing over your claim that "thousands" of Muslim bodies had "blindfolds"

Why not make it "millions" ? Billions perhaps?

Liar liar pants on fire

[Hoplite]

he may be

He's not.

In the same way you think you may be making valid points.

You're not.

[Barnsleys Beck]

So still no evidence to support your claim that "thousands" of Muslim bodies had been "tied up".

Even the wretchedly Serbophobic Dutch report could only manage the following

"In many of the graves, a large number of blindfolds and various restraints - mostly fashioned from iron wire and used to bind wrists or arms - were found. This clearly indicates executions, yet in the mass graves at Nova Kasaba and Konjevic Polje few such clues were found. There had also been combat in this area, and so it is possible that these victims fell on the battlefield. It will never be possible to distinguish victims of the executions from 'regular' casualties of war"

All rather vague. Just how many? And what exactly is a large number ?

You know for a fact we're talking small potatoes here. If, indeed there had've been "thousands", we'd have never heard the end of it.

And the final sentence, It will never be possible to distinguish victims of the executions from 'regular' casualties of war" all but proves my point.

Far, far removed from your bombastic and erroneous "thousands and thousands had been tied up" nonsense.

[Barnsleys Beck]

And in the Krle trial, very few of the bodies unearthed had blindfolds or ligatures. For example, Dr. Clark, the chief pathologist, admitted that only one site he examined - Kozluk - had any at all:

"the fact that Konjevic Polje, Nova Kasaba, and Glogova ( bruial sites ) , none of the victims there had blindfolds or ligatures"

[mile]

Hi Hoplite. I just thought I could share with you some images of Srebrenica mass graves, showing victims with ligatures and blindfolds.
And yes, these are mass grave images of those Srebrenica Muslim “war casualties”, you know, those who “deserved it” or those whose deaths were “legitimate. Completely”.
These were taken at (only?) seven different mass grave locations. I’ll leave it for the “others” to do a research on how many of these victims had blindfolds/ligatures and of what ethnicity they were. Regards.

Kozluk->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lbp5jk
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=48gf476
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4cht8uw
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4dqalja

Cancari Road mass grave no 3->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2motor8

Liplje mass grave 2->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2wftzsl

Cerska->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4ddhx03

Hodzici Road mass grave no 5->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2hquk9h
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4cmxft5

Nova Kasaba->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4gxjreo
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lwp4xw

Kamenica->
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4dly8g5

[FormerLib]

Sorry, but more and more evidence keeps being revealed that most of the Muhammedan soldiers died in military actions during their retreat from Srebrenica.

This victory against the Jihadists will continue to be propagandized as a “massacre” ONLY IF the Jihadists and their Dhimmi toads win.