Ok, let me clear this up.
I may have mis-stated. What I've been trying to get across is that after doing my own research and contemplation and prayer, etc, researching the LDS church (for the purpose of joining), I came to the conclusion that I can't honestly say that Mormons are in fact Christian.
That doesn't mean that they aren't. That just means that I can't say for a sureity that they are. I certainly hope they are.
Since I personally can't tell if a Mormon is a Christian or not, I would not vote for one for POTUS. That's just my preference in who I vote for.
I'm not going to tell someone that they aren't Christian, that's not my place. But that doesn't mean that I necessarily believe that they are because they said so.
I'm sure there are people who would think that I am not a Christian because of some reason or another. I'm sure most Mormons would view me as an apostate. I don't take offense to that, because I know that is just part of their belief system. And I would not begrudge them for not wanting to vote for me, for example, as Mayor of Salt Lake City, since I am an apostate to them.
The topic here is would I vote for a Mormon for President. No, I would not. But most Mormons I know are great people that I am proud to call friends and fellow citizens.
>>I may have mis-stated. What I've been trying to get across is that after doing my own
>>research and contemplation and prayer, etc, researching the LDS church (for the
>>purpose of joining), I came to the conclusion that I can't honestly say that Mormons
>>are in fact Christian.
This is not the impression your post left m with (grin).
That said I think most will agree with me that no church can guarantee that all their members are Christians. I believe that That conversion is a personal thing, and you will not necessarily find out through research if a person is a Christian or not.
I do hope however that if I were on trial fro being a Christian that there would be sufficient evidence to convict me with out as lengthy trial (grin).
>>That doesn't mean that they aren't. That just means that I can't say for a sureity that
>>they are. I certainly hope they are.
How’s this, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints teaches Christianity. Now you may disagree with what we teach, you may say we have doctrines wrong, but we teach of Christ, we reserve the right to say the same of other churches.
>>Since I personally can't tell if a Mormon is a Christian or not, I would not vote for one
>>for POTUS. That's just my preference in who I vote for.
How do you know if anyone is Christian or not? (Bill Clinton carried around this huge Bible, and I don’t consider him a particularly good example of Christianity)
I think any religions “Politicians” would be a horrible way for that religion to be judged. (just my opinion)
>>I'm not going to tell someone that they aren't Christian, that's not my place.
That is what it sounded like at first I must admit.
>>But that doesn't mean that I necessarily believe that they are because they said so.
OK, so how do you tell? (I really do want to know)
>>I'm sure there are people who would think that I am not a Christian because of some reason or another. I'm sure most Mormons would view me as an apostate.
Pardon the questions, but were you a member? If not you cannot be “Apostate” if you just investigated, you are still an investigator, or maybe just non-member, but apostate is a term for those who have turned away from the truth after knowing it.
I do not consider you apostate.
I will also (in lieu of evidence to the contrary) take you at your word at you are a Christian.
>>I don't take offense to that, because I know that is just part of their belief system.
Good, I for one am offended by all the people who are so easily offended out there /humor
>>I would not begrudge them for not wanting to vote for me, for example, as Mayor of
>>Salt Lake City, since I am an apostate to them.
Have you ever heard Rocky Anderson talk about the church? I would want to know what your positions were, and then I would decide based on that.
>>The topic here is would I vote for a Mormon for President.
I thought it was whether or not his religion would affect your vote, but I am probably picking at nits here (hey it’s my hobby, OK?)
>>most Mormons I know are great people that I am proud to call friends and fellow citizens.
After making this statement I really don’t understand why you would not vote for a Mormon. Let me make a couple of statements about the teachings of the church tat should make a” Mormon President” more attractive than the same candidate who is not a Mormon.
1. Mormons believe the constitution to be an inspired document (s we would be likely to actually follow it)
2. Mormons Believe in obeying the law of the land (we quit polygamy because it became illegal so a Mormon should try to obey the law)
3. Mormons believe in keeping oaths, we are an oath making and keeping religion, so the oath of office should mean something to a Mormon president.
4. Mormons understand the history of Arabs as we are also descendant’s of Abraham (well most of us)
5. A Mormon president who slept around on his wife would find himself an Ex-Mormon President, where Bill Clinton still claims to be a Baptist.
None of these “Points” matter if the candidate in question does not hold conservative values which is why I am puling for Fred Thompson for POTUS.