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Germany: America more evil than Iran's Mullahs
Spiegel ^ | 4/1/07 | Spiegel

Posted on 03/31/2007 4:31:30 PM PDT by freedom44

Forty-eight percent of Germans think the United States is more dangerous than Iran, a new survey shows, with only 31 percent believing the opposite. Germans' fundamental hypocrisy about the US suggests that it's high time for a new bout of re-education

The Germans have believed in many things in the course of their recent history. They've believed in colonies in Africa and in the Kaiser. They even believed in the Kaiser when he told them that there would be no more political parties, only soldiers on the front.

Not too long afterwards, they believed that Jews should be placed into ghettos and concentration camps because they were the enemies of the people. Then they believed in the autobahn and that the Third Reich would ultimately be victorious. A few years later, they believed in the Deutsche mark. They believed that the Berlin Wall would be there forever and that their pensions were safe. They believed in recycling as well as in cheap jet travel. They even believed in a German victory at the soccer World Cup.

Now they believe that the United States is a greater threat to world peace than Iran. This was the by-no-means-surprising result of a Forsa opinion poll commissioned by Stern magazine. Young Germans in particular -- 57 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds, to be precise -- said they considered the United States more dangerous than the religious regime in Iran.

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1 posted on 03/31/2007 4:31:30 PM PDT by freedom44
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Before this thread is flooded with the usual knee-jerk responses, I'll sadly point out that the poll results in the U.S. would probably be similar.


2 posted on 03/31/2007 4:32:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: freedom44

They believed in global warming.

Add to the list ;-)


3 posted on 03/31/2007 4:33:57 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: freedom44

Mark Levin read this on Friday.


4 posted on 03/31/2007 4:34:11 PM PDT by brivette
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To: freedom44

Might I remind everyone -- we know why the Germans think we are dangerous -- we were the only ones who could stop them.


5 posted on 03/31/2007 4:37:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: 1rudeboy
Before this thread is flooded with the usual knee-jerk responses, I'll sadly point out that the poll results in the U.S. would probably be similar.

Well then I'd say, Piss on both country's 48%!

6 posted on 03/31/2007 4:38:11 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: yldstrk

DAMN! beat me to it!!


7 posted on 03/31/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: freedom44

This is an excellent critique of anti americanism in Germany.


8 posted on 03/31/2007 4:41:16 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: freedom44

Germans tend to take things to extremes. But unfortunately, they've been less willing to embrace democracy in the extreme. Tacitus spoke of the Germans dedication to material equality when they were at a tribal state, and history left them seeing the good in authoritarianism. Bismark brought them welfare as a way to buy off the general public from the Left. Like the French, it seems to me, the Germans have been reluctant to accept that the Anglos may have stumbled onto something better than what the Germans had. There is a certain snobbishness that causes them to want something abstruse when the practical would work better. When it comes to economics, again like the French, they rant about dog-eat-dog capitalism in the UK and USA and imply that their own social model is far superior while believing in the future so thoroughly that in four or five generations there will be more Germans in the US than in Germany. Ours will speak English. Theirs will speak Turkish or Arabic unless there is a rebirth of Germans willing to have children, an unlikely event I'd say unless their frauleins hook up with Americans.


9 posted on 03/31/2007 4:41:48 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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"British believe Bush is more dangerous than Kim Jong-il"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1938434,00.html


10 posted on 03/31/2007 4:42:58 PM PDT by secretagent
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Forty-eight percent of Germans think the United States is more dangerous than Iran, a new survey shows, with only 31 percent believing the opposite.

Forty-eight percent is too low; I want the whole world to think we are more dangerous than Iran, especially the Iranians.

11 posted on 03/31/2007 4:44:28 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: 1rudeboy

I don't think "kneejerk" reactions, simply becuase they are predictable, are irrational. Germany likes to feel superior about itself, and given its past, it cannot do so easily. I do not blame the current generation for the sins of previous ones, but there is an element of national guilt about things in the past that makes Germans touchy. I'm the grandson of a European who didn't think "correctly" in the 1930s and 1940s. He went to Dachau and the Gestapo's prison. So my reaction is not "kneejerk" -- my reaction is that I am proud to be an American (and not in prison). The flip side is, of course, that about one-third of Germans see Iran as the danger to peace. These must be the ones who actually listen to what Iran's leader says about Israel, Britain, and the United States and not what Der Speigel's leftist editors spoon up. I hope all remember that the leftist German icon Gunther Grass recently had to out himself as a former SS officer. His long-secret East German file was going to be made public. So a former NAZI was influential in German politics. Where are the Germans on that? Whose fault was that?


12 posted on 03/31/2007 4:45:05 PM PDT by Draco
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To: 1rudeboy

I wonder if an Iranian nuke landing in Berlin would change their minds.

Probably not.


13 posted on 03/31/2007 4:45:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: freedom44
Most of the world is more afraid of the U.S. than they are of Islam -- not just Germany.

So what? They should be scared. We have bigger bombs and higher standards.

14 posted on 03/31/2007 4:45:58 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: 1rudeboy

Before you read the article, this is an excellent piece.


15 posted on 03/31/2007 4:46:50 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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To: freedom44

Just to see how the Eurotrash media portrays Bush, look at the title of this BBC article:

"Bush Attacks Iran over captives"

Did Bush attack Iran?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6514567.stm


16 posted on 03/31/2007 4:47:29 PM PDT by Rosemont (Isn't it ironic that Pelosi uses pork to help the Islamists.)
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To: freedom44
Being the richest and best country in the world is a bitch. Jealousy is a terrible thing.
17 posted on 03/31/2007 4:47:52 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: appleharvey

If while you are pissing on Germany, don't worry if a little of it falls short, France will catch it. LOL


18 posted on 03/31/2007 4:49:57 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: freedom44

Two thirds of the Germans would be happy if Iran nuked the Jews.


19 posted on 03/31/2007 4:54:20 PM PDT by Godebert
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Fine by me...

They will never "like" us. The best we can hope for is for them to fear us.


20 posted on 03/31/2007 4:58:50 PM PDT by Lost Dutchman (I thought WWI started because some bloke named Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry.)
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