Posted on 04/04/2007 5:58:38 AM PDT by NYC Republican
To those that don't know Savage or listen to him, he claims to be an "independent conservative"... He surely does espouse some conservative views, but the vile he spews towards Bush, his cabinet, and other Republicans and GOPers could be mistaken for Air America trash.
It would be easy to blow him off as another looney blow-hard, but he's the 3rd most listened-to talk show host in the nation... He has over 8 million listeners, and in calling himself a conservative, he DOES have some real influence there. He's supposed to be on our side, but shifts positions so often, he's become a joke. He embodies every lefty criticism of our side.
In listening to parts of his show last night, he has the following things to say, in a short time span...
* Syria isn't nearly as bad as Iran, they can be spoken to, they don't threaten Israel, they are nationalists not fundamentalists
* The war was started to benefit Oil companies.
* Blasted Bush to no end, said Rice should have been fired a long time ago, blasted the rest of the cabinet
* Said it was OK for Pelosi to go talk to Syria
* Asked why is there a division between GOP and Dems, why do we automatically assume everything they do should be hated, etc.
In my view, this scum is far more dangerous than Air America and nearly every lib out there. He's pretending to be a conservative, yet does more damage to our causes than any other non-politician I can think of, because he has the influence to sway people.
This guy is an utter disgrace and a phony.
I posted comment to this two-sided view of Bush on the FR - Savage show discussion and was attacked fiercely by the Savage fans.
Geez, not another one. Savage supported Bush and VOTED for Bush twice. To say that Bush is a MAJOR disappointment to Savage is an understatement, not because he is a Bush-hater, but because Bush is no conservative.
I've heard Savage say many times there's no difference between the two parties and then the next moment he'll say something like but under Democrat control things will be much worse.
Yes it sounds like a dichotomy in Savage's views but he is pretty consistent in his distaste for liberalism whether it be in concentrated form as it is in the Democratic Party or in diluted form as it current is in the Republican Party.
I doubt you were attacked fiercely by the Savage fans as you say for merely bringing up this point, maybe it could've been the way in which you brought up the point.
OK Tark, now hear this, just because I don’t have the same feelings as you do about the SAVAGE show tonite, does NOT mean I am brain dead, I resent the comment Tark, what is up with you tonite? I didn’t realize that we all had to be in agreement with one another 100 percent of the time....when was this rule implemented and by whom? How come I wasn’t notified????? This is ridiculous Tark, you’re beginning to sound like a dictator, I thought this was AMERICA? When did we become Iraq or like the former Soviet Union? FREE SPEECH remember???? You’re the biggest advocate of FREE SPEECH aren’t you????? DO NOT insult me because I see things a little differently from you.....
Apology accepted
It sounds like a dichotomy because that’s what it IS.
Either the parties are the same, in which case we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t, OR the parties are not the same and our votes matter.
Jeez, who originated that monstrosity? All that serial punctuation is making my teeth itch.
Sorry Hitman, but you're coming across as a Savage apologist- whatever he says must be right, cause he's saying it, right?
You didn't answer my Jessie Jackson comparison... Did HE do the right thing? If, during the Iran hostage situation in '79, A dem leader went over there, would that be right? Where do you draw the line
In my view, whether it's Clinton, Bush or Reagan, you do NOT undermine the President. It makes us look divided, splintered, and outright foolish...
Then again, Pelosi knows that, hence the visit... and hence the Savage support of her near-treasonous act.
That's not the point. That's a ridiculous way to look at it
I also blasted the 3 GOP Reps for going, but until Pelosi went, no one knew about the others... Not because she's a Dem, but because she's speaker of the house!
LOL!
Are you going to get into the fray, or just enjoying the fireworks from the sidelines???
And even then it was only ONE poster who shouted back at him for his personal attack, certainly it had nothing to do with Tark's disagreement with Savage as you so inaccurately claim here, and there was no "cult-like" response from any of the Savage thread regulars shouting at Tark, for that matter I was the only one on the thread who agreed with Savage. So now you can apologize to us for putting out misinformation yet again.
Once again I reiterate to you there was ONE poster who responded ONLY to a PERSONAL VERBAL ATTACK by Tark against him and had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Tark's postings against Savage as was your original claim.
I know others can see what I'm talking about, why can't you?
LOL! With hot butter or without?
I’m just watching.............
I didn’t say it was a cult-like response, I said it was a cult-like group of Savage followers. You’re trying to split hairs, and defend the indefensible. Get over yourself.
I was following closely on the Middle East Live Thread at the time, and I don’t recall seeing you there. The IDF was poised for a major assault when the UN ceasefire came down.
without.......... trying to keep my girlish figure.
I didn’t say I posted to that one or one series of threads. the IDF would have helped its cause much better if they executed on that major assault sooner.
I'm trying to document all known cases of recent memory...
Rove attacked by Students
http://www.nbc4.com/news/11516096/detail.html
Bush's campaign office in Spokane burglarized, vandalized
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002059735_webbushoffice11.html
http://whenliberalsattack.blogspot.com/
Flag burned @ home
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263927,00.html
NOVEMBER 11 2004
Vandals repeatedly target [Chicago] 43rd Ward GOP headquarters
NOVEMBER 6 2004
Democrat activists arrested for slashing tires of GOP vans FBI Investigating
NOVEMBER 6 2004
North Carolina GOP Headquarters Vandalized
OCTOBER 31 2004
Angry Democrats vandalize Bush supporter vehicle
Pie throwing @ Ann Coulter
Man gets assaulted at home by angry liberal
Man on Craig's list wants to fight a Conservative
Man chases woman with GOP sticker in car
I am still trying to find links to some of these stories.
Oh my! Didn’t realize you were female. Guess I should’ve pondered more on your handle. ;-)
Thanks for the ping to this thread. Hope Doc Savage retracts some of what I heard about peeeelosi and syria last nite. Since I left the show early, dunno what was in the last hour and a half or so. My take was that he considers the ‘pubs and dem-o-rats pretty much the same, all about power.
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