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Giuliani leads McCain in poll of California's GOP (40% strongly conservatives support him)
Mercury News ^ | April 4, 2007 | Mary Anne Ostrom

Posted on 04/04/2007 11:01:48 AM PDT by FairOpinion

The former mayor of New York leads Sen. John McCain by a 36 percent to 24 percent margin among the state's likely GOP primary voters, and is the choice of nearly four in 10 of those who say they are "strongly conservative."

"Voters are not picking up fully on his positions or tending to discount them because of overriding issues like terrorism and Iraq, " DiCamillo said of Giuliani.

Only one in five California Republicans say there is no chance they would vote for Giuliani, and he enjoys an 80 percent favorability rating.

But no matter which of the top GOP candidates gets the nod, they will have a fight on their hands in California come the November 2008 general election. In hypothetical general election match-ups, Sen. Hillary Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama and 2004 vice-presidential nominee John Edwards beat Giuliani and McCain.

Clinton gets 53 percent of the vote compared with Giuliani's 40 percent, and she beats McCain by a 48 percent to 43 percent margin. Obama gets 51 percent of the vote matched against both. Edwards receives 51 percent of the vote vs. Giuliani and 49 percent when pitted against McCain.

And those who are declined-to-state or belong to a party other than the Democrats or Republicans also support the Democrats.

"California remains a blue state," DiCamillo said.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: anotherstupidpoll; california; clinton; conservativesforrudy; election; electionpresident; enoughofrudyalready; fieldpoll; giuliani; giveitarest; hillary; rudy; sickofrudy; verysickofrudy
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Two points:

1. Watch more and more conservatives supporting Giuliani.

2. These CA polls showing Hillary beating all Republicans, including Rudy in CA -- BUT Arnold won in CA -- the same way Giuliani has a chance. In toss up states Giuliani is close or even beating Hillary, so the Dems wouldn't be able to take some blue states for granted.

1 posted on 04/04/2007 11:01:52 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: areafiftyone

Rudy ping


2 posted on 04/04/2007 11:02:33 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((RUDY PING))))


3 posted on 04/04/2007 11:04:40 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: FairOpinion
If the choice was Giuliani vs McCain, than Giuliani would get my vote. But we are still in spring training, I am not yet willing to pick a team to win the World Series.
4 posted on 04/04/2007 11:05:22 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: fireforeffect
Wouldn’t picking the nominee be the LCS?
5 posted on 04/04/2007 11:06:35 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: areafiftyone
In other related news, 3 Giuliani operatives were caught impersonating conservatives.


6 posted on 04/04/2007 11:08:58 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: FairOpinion
Maybe conservative have a better understanding the President is NOT semantically equivalent to King.

Which is why the founders wrote detetrmined that the powers of the president would be limited in all matters not relating to the defense of the country.

Now if we could just get the liberals to also understand that “Commander in Chief” is not the same as “Committee-in-Chief”

7 posted on 04/04/2007 11:09:20 AM PDT by MCCRon58 (A man unwilling to fight for freedom and liberty, deserve neither. (Ain't much of a man, either))
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To: FairOpinion

That is because ‘strongly conservatives’ hate McCain. Giuliani is marginally acceptable, but this support is weak.


8 posted on 04/04/2007 11:11:27 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: FairOpinion

This may be a long shot, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mc Cain pull the plug on his campaign. If he does, look for Thompson to jump in (They are pretty tight buds).


9 posted on 04/04/2007 11:12:45 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: FairOpinion
Good to see Rudy doing well. Hillary's fundraising numbers may be putting more and more conservatives into a pragmatic mindset.
10 posted on 04/04/2007 11:12:52 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: FairOpinion
"The former mayor of New York leads Sen. John McCain by a 36 percent to 24 percent margin among the state's likely GOP primary voters, and is the choice of nearly four in 10 of those who say they are "strongly conservative."

I wonder how many whom identify themselves as "Strongly Conservative" are actually Conservative.

11 posted on 04/04/2007 11:13:26 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: FairOpinion

If California Republicans can support Giuliani, they should not consider themselves conservatives. Conservative or “moderate”, no Republican should seriously consider McCain as he is a nut job who uses his Senate seat as a way to push himself in front of TV cameras.

As a conservative, I could hold my nose and vote for Romney, but I am still praying for a real conservative to emerge who does not have baggage (baggage like Fred Thompson’s divorces).


12 posted on 04/04/2007 11:13:29 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
This may be a long shot, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mc Cain pull the plug on his campaign. If he does, look for Thompson to jump in (They are pretty tight buds).

McCain will never pull the plug and Thompson will jump in within the next month or so. McCain is actually the most likely to go third party. I don't see McCain giving up until the fat lady has sung three encores and has gone home.

13 posted on 04/04/2007 11:15:35 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: FairOpinion
Soliciting your Fair Opinion.

Dear Fair,

Since I first voted in 1988 for George HW Bush, I have always voted the conservative line. Does that make me a conservative?

I feel that I am a conservative, but my friends say I’m a liberal because I am considering voting for Mayor Giuliani for president.

What’s your opinion?

Confused in New York.

14 posted on 04/04/2007 11:15:50 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: FairOpinion

The poll details you chose to highlight are nonsensical. The poll did not include the two main conservatives, Thompson and Gingrich. It only included McCain, Giuliani and Romney, and half of the respondents never heard of Romney. The real news is that when Thompson and Gingrich were added in, Giuliani’s massive lead all but disappeared.

About 1 in 6 conservative voters are enchanted with McCain’s “maverick” image. The rest are torn between two people who claim to be conservative, but governed very liberal places as liberals. Of these, the largest group side with Giuliani, a national hero, over unknown Mitt Romney. Many desperately with men who are genuinely conservative, but everyon figures is completely unelectable: Ginrich. Throw in Thompson, and a sizeable portion of Giuliani voters switch to him.

If Thompson runs, he’ll be able to correct his bio: He isn’t “just an actor,” and he was more than “just an actor” when he was elected to the US Senate for eight years. He’s a brilliant anti-corruption prosecuting attorney who brought down a sitting Democratic governor on corruption charges, and who helped the Republican party salvage credibility in Watergate by constructing tough, effective, and fair questions.


15 posted on 04/04/2007 11:16:35 AM PDT by dangus
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To: FairOpinion
is the choice of nearly four in 10 of those who say they are "strongly conservative."

Hard to believe they could find ten Californians that identify themselves as "strongly conservative". Maybe the real number was 2 of 5.

16 posted on 04/04/2007 11:16:56 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Always Right

Strongly conservative in CA = RINO everywhere else.


17 posted on 04/04/2007 11:17:31 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: FairOpinion

How’s he doing in the fundraising department?


18 posted on 04/04/2007 11:17:49 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
I don’t believe that “conservatives” are supporting Rudy...I believe that is false...Rudy doesn’t support any conservative ideals so why would true conservatives support Rudy?.....maybe Repubs in those blue states are supporting Rudy...but a repub in a blue state is a dem in a red state....
19 posted on 04/04/2007 11:18:29 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: dangus

Ouch, a bad day for typos:

The poll details you chose to highlight are nonsensical. The poll did not include the two main conservatives, Thompson and Gingrich. It only included McCain, Giuliani and Romney, and half of the respondents never heard of Romney. The real news is that when Thompson and Gingrich were added in, Giuliani’s massive lead all but disappeared.

About 1 in 6 conservative voters are enchanted with McCain’s “maverick” image. The rest are torn between two people who claim to be conservative, but governed very liberal places as liberals. Of these, the largest group side with Giuliani, a national hero, over unknown Mitt Romney. Many desperately SIDE with a MAN who are genuinely conservative, but everyone figures is completely unelectable: GINGRICH. Throw in Thompson, and a sizeable portion of Giuliani voters switch to him.

If Thompson runs, he’ll be able to correct his bio: He isn’t “just an actor,” and he was more than “just an actor” when he was elected to the US Senate for eight years. He’s a brilliant anti-corruption prosecuting attorney who brought down a sitting Democratic governor on corruption charges, and who helped the Republican party salvage credibility in Watergate by constructing tough, effective, and fair questions.


20 posted on 04/04/2007 11:18:56 AM PDT by dangus
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