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In Washington, a stain on sacred ground
Cumberland Times News ^ | April 4, 2007 | Richard Kerns

Posted on 04/04/2007 7:50:34 PM PDT by Lady J USA 1981

Published: April 04, 2007 10:50 am

In Washington, a stain on sacred ground

Richard Kerns Cumberland Times-News

If peace is flowing like a river, my backyard sewer line is sorely ill at ease.

To maintain a modicum of taste in this demented space, I'll be brief and discreet in addressing said subject de yuck. But as surely as a flush will flow downhill until it can't, at which point it will reverse course into one's basement, such a diversion is inevitable. For images of the past week, to say nothing of scents, were so searing as to permeate my very being.

Plumbing. Makes one long for the days of the outhouse. So much aggravation and expense, all to spare a chill bottom on a frigid winter's eve. This time around, the porcelain god demanded pipe-reaming penance for the dual offense of tree roots and a terra-cotta-kinky sewer line.

I think of Charles Ingalls at such times, not only summoning Pa's patience and fortitude, but envying his PVC-free Little House. That is, until I recall that he and Ma only took baths once a week. Mercy.

Speaking of effluent, a recent letter to the editor reeked of jingoistic bombast in detailing the writer's participation in a counter protest to the March 17 anti-war march in Washington. I lay not a whit of claim to the noble fraternity that is the Vietnam Veterans of America, Chapter 172, but hope that at least some of the members who traveled to Washington that day were uncomfortable, not only with the crude letter of this Saturday past, but with the event itself.

Not for demonstrating; getting up at dawn, driving three hours and wading through crowds to make their voices heard. Red, Blue or any political hue, that's kicking citizenship up a notch. Downright American. It was the venom I'd have them disavow.

The next day's Washington Post featured pictures of enraged counter-demonstrators, and the accompanying story reinforced the images with vitriolic quotes, similar to the tone of the Altoona letter. I have no problem with flag-waving, chest-pounding, bird-flipping passion, but as the letter and story made evident, many were spoiling for a fight.

The flames were sparked and stoked by an Internet campaign that shamelessly played on reverence for our nation's memorials. This "Gathering of Eagles" maliciously and falsely alleged that the protesters were out to deface The Vietnam Memorial, among other national treasures. "Rally to the Mall," went the call, and they commenced to juice everybody up for a conflict wholly of their own creation.

It is sacrilege to politicize the nation's monuments, to belligerently claim ownership of that which belongs to all Americans. And while there may be a nut or two at any protest, the authorities are well equipped to deal with them. Just as Derby Day of old - when beer flowed cold - was the worst day of the year to get drunk and rowdy on Frostburg's Main Street, so too is a protest march the worst time to deface public property on the Mall.

As with George W. Bush and Iraq, the cause-beli of the "gathering" was bunk.

Nor did the organizers fulfill their vaunted mission, which, according to the group's Web site, is "to stand silent guard" over the memorials, in a manner that is "non-violent and non-confrontational."

"The vets turned both sides of Constitution (Avenue) into a bitter, charged gauntlet for the war protesters," the Post reported. "'Jihadists!' some vets screamed."

Contrary to aspersions cast upon them like the manure some "eagles" tossed, peace activists marched in the spirit of the men whose names appear upon The Wall.

It was the signature lesson of the Vietnam War, embraced by Americans across the wide political divide in testament to the sacrifice embodied by those 58,249 names on polished black granite: Never again would the warrior be blamed for the war.

As a reporter with the Frederick News-Post in the fall of 1990, I covered a symposium at Mount Saint Mary's on the eve of the Gulf War. Many in the audience opposed military action to dislodge Saddam Hussein's armies from Kuwait, but in stating their position on the nation's first major conflict since Vietnam, young and old alike invariably attached a caveat: We support the troops. Lesson not only learned, but taken to heart, as a people and a nation.

Seventeen years later, I have yet to see evidence to the contrary in the current conflict overseas. Indeed, the American people rose in righteous anger at the revelation that the administration wasn't taking proper care of our wounded. Our wounded. Just like they are our monuments. Yours and mine.

I'm left to wonder as to March 17, had I marched with others opposed to the war. What would have been my welcome, had I left those ranks and approached The Wall, just beyond the wall of anger surrounding it?

Would the letter writer have stepped from my path? What if I told him I'd come seeking the space where the name and memory of Joseph Patrick Rowley reside, just as they do outside the VVA hall on Liberty Street? Maybe if I told him how my distant cousin was aboard a C-130 making a hop to DaNang and the sweet ride home after a year in-country, when the plane crashed in fog, killing all 28 aboard, including John D. Saville, also of Cumberland.

Perhaps, if he still knew me only as "dirtball," I might mention Stella Rowley, mother of Joseph Patrick, who this October will mark 40 years since her baby died at age 20. Would he allow me to etch her son's name?

This nation's been at war far too long, and far too long at war with itself. The counter demonstration of March 17 was bitter fruit the politics of division.

We must indeed stake out and defend those few remaining DMZs upon America's charred political landscape, where countrymen all can unite around shared ideals, shared history, shared sacrifice.

Sanctified at dearest cost, one such sanctuary is the hallowed ground before The Vietnam Wall...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: answer; antiwar; gatheringofeagles; mediabais; washingtondc

1 posted on 04/04/2007 7:50:36 PM PDT by Lady J USA 1981
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To: Lady J USA 1981

The GOE stained sacred ground? You gotta be @#$&in me right..!!??


2 posted on 04/04/2007 7:54:29 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead

It strikes me that his sewer line is in the back yard.
How freakin’ stupid can you get? Obviously “it” flows back into the basement, is that where the logic is stored?


3 posted on 04/04/2007 7:59:22 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Obviously, this guy gets his news from the main stream media.


4 posted on 04/04/2007 8:01:04 PM PDT by basil
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To: Lady J USA 1981
Girlie Man Kerns
5 posted on 04/04/2007 8:02:06 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981
As with George W. Bush and Iraq, the cause-beli of the "gathering" was bunk.

Nor did the organizers fulfill their vaunted mission, which, according to the group's Web site, is "to stand silent guard" over the memorials, in a manner that is "non-violent and non-confrontational."

Given this puke's anal onsession, he full of it.

His side vandalized a number of things just six weeks prior and then spit and threatened a wounded soldier. And then they called for their side to meet at The Wall.

Sorry Girlie Man Editor, but we're not going to let that happen and we'll be back.

6 posted on 04/04/2007 8:05:34 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981
We support the troops. Lesson not only learned, but taken to heart, as a people and a nation.

Seventeen years later, I have yet to see evidence to the contrary in the current conflict overseas. Kerns you stupid bastard, go to YouTube and watch that "peace marcher" tell an ampute from Walter Reed that he was goimng to get a gun an shoot him.

7 posted on 04/04/2007 8:07:56 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981

May Kerns’ bathtub overflow with a spring bounty of brown trout...


8 posted on 04/04/2007 8:23:54 PM PDT by an amused spectator (The 1st Minnesota Regt died fighting a culture which embraced slavery. Think about it, Ellison.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981
I am speechless.

"...I have no problem with flag-waving, chest-pounding, bird-flipping passion, but as the letter and story made evident, many were spoiling for a fight..."

You obviously DO have a problem with it, you pussy. And yeah, they WERE spoiling for a fight.

"...The flames were sparked and stoked by an Internet campaign that shamelessly played on reverence for our nation's memorials...."

Oh, you mean "reverence" like THIS you liberal TURD?:

"...It is sacrilege to politicize the nation's monuments, to belligerently claim ownership of that which belongs to all Americans. And while there may be a nut or two at any protest, the authorities are well equipped to deal with them. ..."

Yeah. Like the picture above states, sure you hypocritical ass. And the people who spray painted the steps of the capitol building were watched by well equipped authorities who did nothing.

"...This nation's been at war far too long, and far too long at war with itself. The counter demonstration of March 17 was bitter fruit the politics of division...."

The politics of division?????? From the side of our country that routinely implies the blood of our troops has been shed so Bush and Cheney could line their pockets profiteering from the war???? THAT kind of "Politics of Division" you sanctimonious sack of shit? Or perhaps THIS kind of "politics of division"????

BURNING the flag, DEFECATING on the flag? The FLAG I served under, my father served under and was buried under in Arlington? THAT "politics of division"?

"...I'm left to wonder as to March 17, had I marched with others opposed to the war. What would have been my welcome, had I left those ranks and approached The Wall, just beyond the wall of anger surrounding it?..."

Your welcome would likely not have been the one you richly deserve.

"...It was the signature lesson of the Vietnam War, embraced by Americans across the wide political divide in testament to the sacrifice embodied by those 58,249 names on polished black granite: Never again would the warrior be blamed for the war...."

Oh, this is too rich. You, who side with the people who emasculated our military in Vietnam, who sided with the people who prolonged the war, who openly engaged in treason, who sold the South Vietnamese up the river, whose hands are covered in the blood of the untold numbers who were butchered, imprisioned and repressed because YOU and people like YOU accepted no responsibility for your actions in abandoning them! And YOU have the unmitigated GALL to mention in breathless tones the 58,249 who died there? YOUR PRESENCE AT THE WALL WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OBSCENITY AND A DESECRATION! How DARE you?

"...We must indeed stake out and defend those few remaining DMZs upon America's charred political landscape, where countrymen all can unite around shared ideals, shared history, shared sacrifice...."

I got news for you, bucko. There was NOBODY on the side of the vets who has anything in common with you. There is no "shared ideals". You presume a lot If you think a single person on the other side would share any ideal with a moronic, self-centered jerk like you. Ther is no "shared history". You and your liberal bretheren have written your own blood stained history, going all the way back to your support of Communism in the early Twentieth Century, and extending all the way to Code Pink collecting money for terrorists in Iraq. That is your history.

And you do not know a thing about sacrifice, so stuff your pie-hole with a dirty jockstrap and do the rest of us a favor by not displaying your stupidity and arrogance so openly.

9 posted on 04/04/2007 9:12:18 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I am nearly beside myself with anger at the breathtaking combination of arrogance, ignorance and hypocrisy in this liberal POS.


10 posted on 04/04/2007 9:16:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981

This guy should go pick lettuce and stop staining the Internet.


11 posted on 04/04/2007 9:23:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: rlmorel

Your post needs to become a letter to this dirtball editor.

You dissect his worthless logic very well.

His moral smugness is nauseating.


12 posted on 04/04/2007 9:29:12 PM PDT by exit82 (2008 Dem Campaign Slogan: "Vote Democrat-Hate America First!")
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To: exit82

I am still steaming. I don’t know how I will get to sleep after reading that.


13 posted on 04/04/2007 9:30:43 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981

Sounds to me like the man is trying to rationalize decades of inner guilt.


14 posted on 04/04/2007 10:33:54 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: rlmorel; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

Outstanding rebuttal, rlmorel.


15 posted on 04/05/2007 3:04:11 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

I have no words. I can’t even think straight after reading this. Do these people honestly believe that everyone on the anti-war side came with jammies and pie to share their undying love and respect with the knuckle-dragging warmongers? Do they really think that in spite of their heartwarming attempts at peaceful co-protests (as if) ONLY the ones who supported the troops and many of those who actually earned the right to stand and defend those monuments were rude potty mouths? This guys arrogance and utter stupidity piss me off.

Cindie


16 posted on 04/05/2007 3:39:48 AM PDT by gardencatz (Your son might be an honor student, but mine's a US Marine...it can't always be someone else's son!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

The Left is in fear of plain Americans who are willing to kick their butts. Cops they can deal with, taking video, and filing civil rights lawsuits. But a vet who can punch one out, and anonymously disappear into the crowd is another story


17 posted on 04/05/2007 4:10:57 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Lady J USA 1981; freema; USMCPOP; usmcobra; floramacdonald
I'm left to wonder as to March 17, had I marched with others opposed to the war. What would have been my welcome, had I left those ranks and approached The Wall, just beyond the wall of anger surrounding it?
Would the letter writer have stepped from my path? What if I told him I'd come seeking the space where the name and memory of Joseph Patrick Rowley reside, just as they do outside the VVA hall on Liberty Street? Maybe if I told him how my distant cousin was aboard a C-130 making a hop to DaNang and the sweet ride home after a year in-country, when the plane crashed in fog, killing all 28 aboard, including John D. Saville, also of Cumberland.

As long as your hands were empty and you were respectful, not a thing would have happened except for maybe a few Vets welcoming you and helping you locate that young man's name on the wall, YOU EFFING LIBERAL MORON!!!!!!!!!!

Lady J...Great catch on this...Great Post..

18 posted on 04/05/2007 5:31:57 AM PDT by concretebob (I'm NOT pro-war, I'm ANTI - TERRORIST)
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To: Lady J USA 1981
“peace activists marched in the spirit of the men whose names appear upon The Wall”

Nothing could be further from the truth. This Dip$hit writer evidently missed the signs and flags held by the “peace activists” advocating communism and anarchy !

19 posted on 04/05/2007 6:03:54 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Lady J USA 1981

rkerns@times-news.com

Kerns email


20 posted on 04/05/2007 6:11:44 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rlmorel

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/138152/index.php

“bring some paint so we can spray the wall.”
DC Indymedia | 06 Mar 2007 | dylan

Posted on 03/06/2007 9:37:18 PM EST by Citizen SMASH

Anti-authoritarian bloc on the 17th? Author: A Date Created: 06 Mar 2007

About the demo on March 17th:

People who are planning a black bloc, youth bloc, SDS bloc or something like that should announce it so more than 10 people can join in and make it worthwhile.

Comments Re: Anti-authoritarian bloc on the 17th? 06 Mar 2007 by DAAWN

Come to NCOR there should be folks getting together there to plan stuff! It will be announced we just need to plan stuff!

Re: Anti-authoritarian bloc on the 17th? 06 Mar 2007 by dylan

bring some paint so we can spray the wall.

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/138152/index.php


21 posted on 04/05/2007 7:13:31 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: rlmorel

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/013007/uscp.html

New details have surfaced regarding the incident where protesters were allowed to scrawl graffiti on the lower west terrace of the Capitol building.

According to a Democratic leadership aide, 50 to 60 protesters, rather than the 300 figure that was reported by The Hill over the weekend, were involved in the act of vandalism, which took place after the main peace march took place. The aide said a large tour group was leaving the Capitol simultaneously as the protesters approached the Capitol. The staffer also said that contrary to initial accounts, the Capitol was not shut down in the wake of the protesters approaching the building.

While the Democratic aide said that the graffiti was mainly made with chalk and spray paint, other sources detailed the use of permanent markers as well as spray paint.

A police source indicated police took photographs and video after the incident occurred. The photos were not made available to the press. According to sources, police were ordered by Morse and Deputy Chief Daniel Nichols to break their security line and fall back from 3rd Street S.W. to the Capitol steps.

http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/012507/protesters.html

Anti-war protesters were allowed to spray paint on part of the west front steps of the United States Capitol building after police were ordered to break their security line by their leadership, two sources told The Hill.

According to the sources, police officers were livid when they were told to fall back by U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) Chief Phillip Morse andDeputy Chief Daniel Nichols. “They were the commanders on the scene,” one source said, who requested anonymity. “It was disgusting.”


22 posted on 04/05/2007 7:15:41 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: rlmorel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9iodh1HNIQ

DC Chapter is confronted by the looney left

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WidXymvpxJE&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5q9maZOuWg&mode=related&search=


23 posted on 04/05/2007 7:32:22 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: acapesket

Looks like it backed up through his mouth.


24 posted on 04/05/2007 7:46:21 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Lady J USA 1981

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13066

Al Qaeda Relying on ‘Peace’ Movements

By Center for Security Policy
CenterForSecurityPolicy.org | April 20, 2004

Borrowing a page from North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap, Osama bin Laden is making the US and European “peace” movement an instrument of his strategy.

The al Qaeda leader’s most recent tape, aired on Al Jazeera April 15, “appeared to mark a new strategy of trying to manipulate antiwar sentiment in Europe to bring pressure on governments that support the United States,” according to the Washington Post.

Spanish voters’ election of an anti-American socialist in the days following the March train bombings in Madrid encouraged al Qaeda. In his tape, the Post reports, “Bin Laden refers to demonstrations in Europe as ‘positive interaction’ and mentions ‘opinion polls, which indicate that most European peoples want peace.’”

Bin Laden is openly trying to exploit politicial divisions in Europe and the US in the way that General Giap counted on the American “peace” movement to weaken the American people’s resolve even though they were winning the war. Former North Vietnamese General Staff officer Bui Tin once said that the “peace” movement was “essential to our strategy.”

The open support of Hanoi by Jane Fonda, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark (now head of International ANSWER, which coordinates the largest protests) and others “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses,” Bui Tin said. “Through dissent and protest,” the US “lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.”


25 posted on 04/05/2007 8:16:07 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: freema

I gotta get ready for work. I don’t want my blood pressure to go any higher then required.


26 posted on 04/05/2007 9:31:32 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Lady J USA 1981

Bill Clinton stained that now? And I thought the White House sink was bad.


27 posted on 04/05/2007 9:41:49 AM PDT by conserveababe ("I hope she wins the next elections." - Khaled al-Batch, Islamic Jihad terrorist, on Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Is Kerns one of the Becker Brothers?
28 posted on 04/06/2007 1:19:05 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: exit82

Please send your post, especially the pictures, to the author.


29 posted on 04/06/2007 1:25:47 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Lady J USA 1981

I didn’t know metaphors could rally, let alone riot.


30 posted on 04/06/2007 1:30:22 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Lady J USA 1981

” We must indeed stake out and defend those few remaining DMZs upon America’s charred political landscape, where countrymen all can unite around shared ideals, shared history, shared sacrifice. “

First, Mr.Kerns has no understanding of what a “DMZ”
really is since he speaks of it as a townhall meeting or a village green, that is certainly not any DMZ I ever saw.
Second, if it is such shared space, why would he want to stake it out and “defend” it, and from whom?

Baaaah, liberals, it would almost be worth it to watch the
jihadists exterminate them.


31 posted on 04/06/2007 2:16:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ozzymandus; rlmorel

ozzymandus—I think you meant to ping rlmorel instead of me.


32 posted on 04/06/2007 2:49:53 PM PDT by exit82 (2008 Dem Campaign Slogan: "Vote Democrat-Hate America First!")
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To: exit82

Yes, thanks.


33 posted on 04/06/2007 6:02:45 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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