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China Rejects Blame For Pet Food Recall
International Herald Tribune ^ | 4-5-2007 | David Barboza

Posted on 04/05/2007 2:55:36 PM PDT by blam

China rejects blame for pet food recall

By David Barboza Published: April 5, 2007

SHANGHAI: China said Thursday that it had no record of exporting any agricultural products that could have tainted the pet food that has been linked to the deaths of at least 16 cats and dogs in the United States.

The Chinese government said that wheat gluten, which has been linked to a pet food recall in North America, had not been exported from China to the United States or Canada. The government also disputed some reports that a chemical called Aminopterin, a rat poison, could have entered the pet food supplies in North America from China. The government said the chemical is not used in rat poison in China.

"China has nothing to do with the pet poisoning incident," the government said in a statement on the Web site of the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine.

The government announcement came just days after the U.S. government halted all imports of wheat gluten from China and after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration identified a Chinese company as the supplier of the tainted pet food ingredient.

But Thursday, the Chinese company identified by the agency said that it had never shipped wheat gluten to the United States or Canada.

"We are a trading company and don't manufacture the product,"

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


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KEYWORDS: china; food; pet; recall
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1 posted on 04/05/2007 2:55:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Well alrighty then.


2 posted on 04/05/2007 2:56:21 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: blam

Well that’s settled. [/sarc]


3 posted on 04/05/2007 2:57:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: blam

Chuck Fina. Buncha Commies.


4 posted on 04/05/2007 2:58:21 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: blam
China, if they were honest, would have to admit that there isn’t any condition under which they would actually admit it was their fault.
5 posted on 04/05/2007 2:58:59 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: blam

Bullcrap.


6 posted on 04/05/2007 2:59:09 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: blam

Trial run? Pet food today, people food tomorrow?


7 posted on 04/05/2007 2:59:18 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: blam
Did anyone think China would actually accept blame for anything? When the Chinese dragon pees on your leg, you're supposed to just thank them for the warm feeling you got.
8 posted on 04/05/2007 2:59:45 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: blam

China denied SARS in the first days, weeks and months too.


9 posted on 04/05/2007 3:00:48 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

That’s one of the thoughts that came across my mind....

It is very disheartening that they couldn’t immediately say for certain that the same products weren’t in the human food supply.


10 posted on 04/05/2007 3:02:10 PM PDT by rottndog (Happy April Fools Day! (How is April these days....?))
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To: blam
The Wall Street Journal
today has a piece about
China's "oversight"

of drug companies.
National Lampoon couldn't
have made them sound worse!

(The Journal only
makes their text available
to their subscribers.)
11 posted on 04/05/2007 3:04:33 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: blam

Rejection denied !


12 posted on 04/05/2007 3:06:04 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Just sayin
>China denied SARS in the first days, weeks and months too

Well, just to be fair,
we didn't all go extinct
from SARS like some feared . . .

13 posted on 04/05/2007 3:06:04 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: blam
"China has nothing to do with the pet poisoning incident," the government said in a statement on the Web site of the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine.

I'd sooner trust a rattlesnake than the Chinese government.

14 posted on 04/05/2007 3:08:17 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: blam

How do you know when a filthy little yellow-bellied murderous Commie is lying?

He’s beating his gums.


15 posted on 04/05/2007 3:12:33 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: blam

Brown Rice, Whole Wheat Flour, Flaxseed, Ground Beef and a little Bone meal will provide man’s best friend with a meal more worthy then the junk they call dog food.


16 posted on 04/05/2007 3:15:00 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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To: blam

Yet ANOTHER benefit of the multinational corporate culture of out-sourcing to the LOWEST bidder.

NOTICE TO THOSE WHO LOST A PET DUE TO THIS SCREW-UP:
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT LAW SUIT FOR DAMAGES FROM THE CHINESE.

Wait till melamine or another toxin gets into the HUMAN food chain here. Why, a few hundred thousand dead might make us rethink that old “Buy America” thing, huh?


17 posted on 04/05/2007 3:19:05 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: blam
The government also disputed some reports that a chemical called Aminopterin, a rat poison, could have entered the pet food supplies in North America from China.

They're a bit late to the party with that claim. Only one lab said it found aminopterin, and no other lab, including the FDA's was able to confirm that finding. We really don't know enough about the whole chain to dispute specific claims by the company or the Chinese government. It's possible the Chinese company was just a broker involved in the sale, and didn't manufacture or handle the product in question.

On our end of the the line, many veterinary experts are saying that melamine is unlikely to be the responsible agent, since previous study data indicates it couldn't produce such severe effects in dogs (though they say it might do so in cats, who are more sensitive, and for whom there is no melamine toxicity data -- but that wouldn't explain the dead and critically ill dogs). Until we can get a firm handle on WHAT has been poisoning these pets, I think we'd do well to listen to what the Chinese are saying, and consider the possibility that some or all of it may be true.

As for me, I keep having visions of Islamo-terrorists watching all this with great enthusiasm, as the mighty US government is unable to firmly pin down the identity or source of a poison that got into a bulk shipment of a food ingredient that could just as easily have gone into human food.

18 posted on 04/05/2007 3:23:00 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: theFIRMbss

I would agree we didn’t go extinct, but I would offer, to be fair, IF China had been on the up and up about SARS, it may may well have been less of a problem than it was.


19 posted on 04/05/2007 3:27:15 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: blam

Anybody know off the top of their heads where I can find a (real time—snort) list of the affected products?


20 posted on 04/05/2007 3:27:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: blam

If they were series they would show the chain of events and name the companies rather than say notme notme.


21 posted on 04/05/2007 3:31:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: blam

Well it certainly is nice that China gets free uninspected entry into our once safe food supply. Way to go free traders! The Dogs and cats of the nation salute you. Perhaps some day soon the free traders will get to enjoy a special meal from China themselves.


22 posted on 04/05/2007 3:37:39 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: blam

There appears to be a whole bunch of lieing taking place here. This is huge...we’re talking about more than 10,000 animals dying not 16. I talked to a couple of vets this week and they’re upset cause they were NEVER alerted. They’ve had dogs come in so far gone nothing whatsoever could be done for them. I ask them what’d they die from. They had not a clue...I ask them what about the food that’s been killing animals? They didn’t know they’d not been alerted to this. These are vets working out in the middle of the boondocks. They’re so busy...they don’t have time to watch or listen to the news. They get there news by alerts.


23 posted on 04/05/2007 3:40:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: blam
The government said the chemical is not used in rat poison in China.

But of course! Its used in China as a dog poison...

24 posted on 04/05/2007 3:41:36 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Alexis the Bengal Kitty

Ping about China not accepting responsibility for bad wheat gluten.


25 posted on 04/05/2007 3:43:17 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (http://www.fda.gov/emaillist.html - Class I (life threatening) recalls email alert sign-up)
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To: 1rudeboy
Anybody know off the top of their heads where I can find a (real time—snort) list of the affected products?

See my tagline for the FDA information. Also they are now recalling dog biscuits. I'll post a thread shortly in order to alert pet owners

26 posted on 04/05/2007 3:45:08 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (http://www.fda.gov/emaillist.html - Class I (life threatening) recalls email alert sign-up)
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To: Sally'sConcerns

at petconnection.com


27 posted on 04/05/2007 3:46:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: shield
Do you know where the number16 comes from????

This is the number of "test" dogs that have died at Menu Foods! Not the number of domestic dogs dead from contaminated food. That number is large, if they gave the true number people would be taking this much more seriously.

28 posted on 04/05/2007 3:47:46 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dick Bachert
Wait till melamine or another toxin gets into the HUMAN food chain here. Why, a few hundred thousand dead might make us rethink that old “Buy America” thing, huh?

Things have been VERY silent about "Tofurkey" and other vegetarian foods that have wheat gluten added, or about textured wheat gluten meat substitutes.

29 posted on 04/05/2007 3:49:14 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: jpsb

You do know there is lots of missing and unaccounted for shipments and one person on petconnection found that it extends to human shipments as well. I understand Anderson Cooper went to China and to the warehouses. If people watched his show they would be sick just from viewing the unsanitary conditions the grain is stored for shipment.... and what about shipments — what else has been shipped in the same hulls?


30 posted on 04/05/2007 3:49:57 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I think we’ve all known since 911 our food and water supply are in danger to the ismlamo fascists — all but the liberals have know this that is.


31 posted on 04/05/2007 3:51:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Just sayin
"I would agree we didn’t go extinct, but I would offer, to be fair, IF China had been on the up and up about SARS, it may may well have been less of a problem than it was."

The Chinese scientist who lied the most about SARS ( Dr Margaret Chan ) is now the director of WHO. (World Health Organization)

32 posted on 04/05/2007 3:54:13 PM PDT by blam
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To: Arizona Carolyn

It’s huge. This started in December....when the country vets are not aware of it...that is awful. And these docs are really great vets.


33 posted on 04/05/2007 3:54:21 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: blam
Where is the Nancy Pelosi air force--I am sure she could "open a dialog". ;-)
34 posted on 04/05/2007 3:57:49 PM PDT by cgbg (Algore's carbon footprint is exceeded only by his waistline.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If “it” is in pet food “it” is in human food too. Be carfull what you eat.


35 posted on 04/05/2007 4:07:49 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: shield
"They’re so busy...they don’t have time to watch or listen to the news. They get there news by alerts."

It's suprising how much news we get here and early too. Just today, I watched Brit Hume (Fox News), cover news that I read here yesterday or earlier.

36 posted on 04/05/2007 4:10:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: 1rudeboy

http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/petfood.html


37 posted on 04/05/2007 4:15:36 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: blam

Surely there’s at least ONE pet food company using all AMERICAN materials in their pet food. They could make a mint right now if they would state on their containers and advertising “Made in USA”.


38 posted on 04/05/2007 4:16:12 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: jpsb

That’s right! They just expanded the recall to include Ole Roy Dog bisquits.. more cheap chinese @#$% at Walmart.... glad I never fed that stuff to my dogs.


39 posted on 04/05/2007 4:16:26 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Gorzaloon

Hmmmmm you made me thing; are Peta people eating Melamine Gluten in their tofuti?


40 posted on 04/05/2007 4:17:50 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: blam

Ahhhh the WHO — the same people who want to take away vitamins, minerals, homeopathy... and to think at one time the Chinese really cornered the market on understanding herbs yin and yang...


41 posted on 04/05/2007 4:19:11 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ArtyFO

Look at Natures Logic... the best thing is to home cook or feed raw. I have fed raw for over 9 years now. Oh, and the vets who say don’t ... look at the contributors to the AVMA and put it into perspective.


42 posted on 04/05/2007 4:20:55 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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Hmmmmm you made me thing; are Peta people eating Melamine Gluten in their tofuti?

If they are the American Bar Association is salivating. Which is probably why there is not a peep about it.

I have some ultra-strict vegan friends. They are easy to entertain when they vist in the Summer. I open the gate to the garden and let them graze. But they buy things like Soy Milk, etc.

I should give them a call and scare them, and convert them to big fat juicy hamburgers...

43 posted on 04/05/2007 4:22:34 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: proudofthesouth

Thanks.


44 posted on 04/05/2007 4:22:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Thanks, everybody.


45 posted on 04/05/2007 4:23:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: blam

Well, since they didn’t ship any product, then China won’t mind if we ban all of their products they didn’t ship from now on.


46 posted on 04/05/2007 4:37:58 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: mtbopfuyn
Americans should be outraged not because the pet food raw material was unfit for pets but because even such raw material is pet food materials are imported from Communist China.

The present communist Chinese government and its predecessor's killed more human beings to gain and maintain power than any country in the history of mankind. Why are we doing business with such a country. Red China makes Hitler and Joe Stalin look like a day at the beach.

47 posted on 04/05/2007 4:38:06 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: blam
Link

The Food and Drug Administration announced on Thursday it has identified additional contaminated pet food products -- dog biscuits made by Sunshine Mills of Red Bay, Alabama.

The dog biscuits are contaminated with potentially toxic wheat gluten, said Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine. He said more details on which products are affected would be available later Thursday.

Sunshine Mills did not immediately return calls from CNN seeking comment.

The FDA also said Menu Foods is expanding its recall of a wide variety of products by widening the range of manufacturing dates in the recall. The company said it will announce the new recall dates later Thursday.

48 posted on 04/05/2007 4:41:40 PM PDT by elli1
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To: ArtyFO
The sad fact is, these foods WERE "Made In USA".

It is the ingredients used that were imported, and that is not any labels.

If the manufacturers were honest, those bags would read, "Assembled in USA, from foreign & domestic parts".

49 posted on 04/05/2007 5:25:06 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

No most were made in Canada. Menu Foods is a Canadian company American companies outsourced their manufacturing to; one reason being as bad as the USA is when it comes to rules regulating petfood (AAFCO) Canada is even worse. To add insult to injury, once Menu foods knew they had a problem (their test dogs and cats started dying) they issued a notice in Canada and SPECIFICALLY stated: Not for distribution in the USA.... look for the cache version on their website —


50 posted on 04/05/2007 5:42:57 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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