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Cheney is Absolutely Correct
American Thinker ^ | April 09, 2007 | Ray Robison

Posted on 04/09/2007 10:58:18 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: bw17
Cheney sure as hell *did* state that Zarqawi was in Baghdad organizing al-Qaeda operations there before we arrived.

Go back and read what I wrote. You are saying exactly what I was saying that Cheney was saying.

21 posted on 04/09/2007 1:01:50 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Txsleuth; Matchett-PI
Thanks for posting that article..and the links.

Give credit where credit is due. You can thank Matchett-PI for the bulk of the links.

22 posted on 04/09/2007 2:17:38 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
"he spoke of Abu Mus'ab al Zarqawi's presence in Iraq before the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. "

......but left out that Zarqawi was treated at Baghdad's Olympic Hospital, a facility reserved for high-ranking Ba'athists and their families. It's like saying if Zarqawi went to the US and got treated at Bethesda Naval Hospital, it doesn't mean that the US government was involved.

23 posted on 04/09/2007 2:26:22 PM PDT by cookcounty (No journalist ever won a prize for reporting facts. --Telling big stories? Now that's a winner.)
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To: neverdem; Matchett-PI

Thank you for the links, Matchett!!

I am bookmarking this..it is all important stuff to have on hand.

Great work.


24 posted on 04/09/2007 2:55:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Dorky Gigglelips)
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To: Txsleuth

You’re welcome! :)


25 posted on 04/09/2007 3:25:01 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: avacado

Sorry, I was feeling argumentative today and felt like arguing with someone even if they agreed with me.

;-)


26 posted on 04/09/2007 3:31:49 PM PDT by bw17
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LOL!!! Good answer!


27 posted on 04/09/2007 7:28:09 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Matchett-PI
Rumsfeld wanted Iraqis in on the action ­ right from the beginning.

LOL...if you go back and do some research you'll learn that he stated in a many newscast that, as the Iraqi officer cadre was comprised of mainly Saddam loyalist revolutionary guards that it had to be a coalition thrust...

The latest post-hoc conventional wisdom on Iraq is that Defense Secretary Rumsfeld won the war but lost the occupation. There are two problems with this analysis (which comes, most forcefully, from The Weekly Standard). First, it’s not Rumsfeld’s occupation; it’s Colin Powell’s and George Tenet’s. Second, although it’s painfully obvious that much is wrong with this occupation, it’s simple-minded to assume that more troops will fix it. More troops may be needed now, but more of the same will not do the job. Something different is needed ­ and was, right from the start.

George Tenent? Colin Powell? ... how about Bremmer, Wolfowitz, Perle and Cheney "they'll welcome us as heroes!" A bigger troop level (surge) IS working in Iraq--you're just not hearing about it!

A Rumsfeld occupation would have been different, and still might be. Rumsfeld wanted to put an Iraqi face on everything at the outset ­ not just on the occupation of Iraq, but on its liberation too. That would have made a world of difference.

Okay, it that argument is true, then who's responsible for not implementing the Rumsfeld plan? Bush? Cheney? (Powell was gone after 2004)

Rumsfeld’s plan was to train and equip ­ and then transport to Iraq ­ some 10,000 Shia and Sunni freedom fighters led by Shia exile leader Ahmed Chalabi and his cohorts in the INC, the multi-ethnic anti-Saddam coalition he created. There, they would have joined with thousands of experienced Kurdish freedom fighters, ably led, politically and militarily, by Jalal Talabani and Massoud Barzani. Working with our special forces, this trio would have sprung into action at the start of the war, striking from the north, helping to drive Baathist thugs from power, and joining Coalition forces in the liberation of Baghdad. That would have put a proud, victorious, multi-ethnic Iraqi face on the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and it would have given enormous prestige to three stubbornly independent and unashamedly pro-American Iraqi freedom fighters: Chalabi, Talabani, and Barzani.

So I suppose blame for the president for the foul up is justified (as the American electorate did in the last election)?

28 posted on 04/10/2007 6:14:25 AM PDT by meandog (If it feels good, don't do it!)
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