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Global warming? Do the math
National Post ^ | 2007-04-09 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 04/09/2007 12:52:59 PM PDT by Clive

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41 posted on 04/09/2007 1:41:38 PM PDT by pepperdog (This world has gone crazy!)
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Canada must act now?

The forecast is for overnight lows below freezing in Winnipeg for the next few days.

There may be some additional time left.


42 posted on 04/09/2007 1:43:07 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Maelstorm

“This very simple analysis illustrates profoundly the silliness of the Global Warming hysterics.”

It gets even better, according to the BBC documentary (excellent - called the Great Global Warming Swindle), Al Gore’s chart that tracks CO2 in the ancient ice cores shows CO2 actually trailing the rising (and falling) levels of CO2. It shows that the oceans give off more CO2 when they warm up. Poor Al Gore has it backwards. Global warming causes a rise in CO2 not the other way around. I love this topic.


43 posted on 04/09/2007 1:43:38 PM PDT by razzle
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To: Maelstorm
"I love this analysis. It is like mental candy. lol This very simple analysis illustrates profoundly the silliness of the Global Warming hysterics."

heheh I was having a discussion with one of the global warming faithful over this very fact presented in this article (the small amount humans contribute to carbon emissions in the atmosphere.)

My example was like saying a guy peeing in the ocean raises the temperature (it would but I am not sure the instrument has been invented that could measure the difference), but he did an AH HAH and asked me "but when all 6 billion humans would pee in the ocean at the same time then what would happen?" thinking he had hit a major flaw, in my argument.

Of course when I explained there is 1.57 billion cubic kilometers of ocean water and asked him if 6 people peeing in a 1 and a half cubic kilometer of water would make a difference we could measure he was profoundly confused.

Most of these poor souls have no clue how small the human population is when compared to the size of the earth. I told him if you had 100 times that many people or 600 per 1.5 cubic kilometers of water you still could not measure the difference. He just could not grasp the immenseness of the Earth's Oceans.

44 posted on 04/09/2007 1:44:54 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: razzle

Is this BBC Documentary being shown on TV anywhere? I’d love to see it and tape it.


45 posted on 04/09/2007 1:45:01 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (Vote for the person at the primaries; vote for the party at the election.)
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To: cookcounty
You’ve caused me to think perhaps the common, and required in many cities, practice of cutting the grass may be doing damage to the earth. Just think, not only do we cut the grass we use a machine to do it, isn’t that a double hit? wouldn’t long grass be better for the earth than short grass. Nature wants the grass to be long, right? This could play heck with city ordinances that require grass to be kept short.
46 posted on 04/09/2007 1:48:50 PM PDT by pepperdog (This world has gone crazy!)
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See the link above for the BBC documentary - I watched it twice - its great. Don’t know about a TV schedule.


47 posted on 04/09/2007 1:50:19 PM PDT by razzle
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To: myuhaul
How long have the measurement devices been located in the exact same spots?

Along with that, what changes have occurred in the nature of those sites? Have some of them changed over time from being in an isolated rural area to being in a developed suburb or city?

48 posted on 04/09/2007 1:52:21 PM PDT by Bob
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To: 3catsanadog
"Is this BBC Documentary being shown on TV anywhere? I’d love to see it and tape it."

The Great Global Warming Swindle" documentary was done by Ch 4 in England, not the BBC. However it is well worth seeing. It is all over the internet. It was on Google Videos at one time, may still be there. Just search for Global Warming Swindle and I'm sure you will find something. It was also on YouTube.

49 posted on 04/09/2007 1:56:46 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: Clive

Shows how stupid our own Government is.


50 posted on 04/09/2007 1:57:03 PM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: 3catsanadog
Go here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467&q=The+Great+Global+Warming+Swindle&hl=en

It ia an avi file. There is a download button for Windows.

Fetch it now, no delay, before Google catches it and borks it again.

If you are using linux and want to know how to make a dvd disk from the avi file, send me a private message.

If you are using windows you are on your own.

51 posted on 04/09/2007 1:59:29 PM PDT by Clive
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The Liberals are hysterical about Kyoto. But they dithered on implementing it when they were in power. This just Stephane Dion playing politics with Canada's future.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

52 posted on 04/09/2007 2:02:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: siunevada
"The forecast is for overnight lows below freezing in Winnipeg for the next few days."

It has been 15 degrees below normal in Winnipeg for the last two weeks, no end in sight. Daytime temps haven't even gone above freezing, yet it's supposed to be spring. The red river has refrose, causing ice jams and flooding north of that city. If you mention global warming there, people get angry.

It doesn't get any better on this side of the border (ND) from there. More snow is forcast for tomorrow afternoon.

53 posted on 04/09/2007 2:03:16 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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It's not, you know, as though some sort of magical explanation is required to explain how "how such a tiny amount can make such a big difference" - any competent atmospheric chemist can walk a bright high schools student step-by-step through the calculations which explain how this can happen.

And in fact there are lots of such apparently implausible mismatches of cause and effect, for example relatively minuscule quantities of certain components of tail-pipe emissions used be a major contributor to smogging up hundreds of cubic miles of air above the Los Angeles basin on a daily basis in quantities of .1 parts per million and below.

The difference is that you could see the smog... so people didn't bother to argue over whether this was possible.

54 posted on 04/09/2007 2:06:20 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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Then you would have to explain how CO2 is apparently a miracle gas that can produce more heat energy than it takes to make it. It’s an answer to the worlds energy needs.
55 posted on 04/09/2007 2:12:47 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: EagleUSA

Mission Impossible 2


56 posted on 04/09/2007 2:37:06 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Clive

Thanks a bunch to all who helped me find the video. I’m downloading it now from Google.


57 posted on 04/09/2007 2:37:18 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (Vote for the person at the primaries; vote for the party at the election.)
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To: Clive; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; albertabound; ...
24 bottles of beer on the wall......

Canada ping.

Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.

58 posted on 04/09/2007 2:56:52 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Clive

NEWS FLASH! Canada not cold enough!


59 posted on 04/09/2007 2:57:24 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: EagleUSA

Yes and the irony is that the efforts of environmentalist kooks and leftist bureaucrat scientists have benefited the most from the “public education” of the most recent generations of young people. It is sad really how pervasive leftist mythology has become. Too many people have bought into the “hate humanity” ideology and automatically accept the guilt of humanity without applying any critical thinking to the assertions no matter how stupid.


60 posted on 04/09/2007 3:38:11 PM PDT by Maelstorm (A wise man develops a philosophy that drives his politics not the other way around.)
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