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ROKER: NOT IN MY HOUSE
MSNBC ^ | 4/11/07 | Al Roker

Posted on 04/11/2007 10:25:38 AM PDT by teddyballgame

I don't think I've ever had more response to an online journal than yesterday.

As you may know I called for the firing/resignation of WFAN/MSNBC morning host Don Imus. This after he and his morning "Crew" referred to the Rutgers Women’s basketball team as, among other things, "nappy-headed hos." Ugly racism and sexism at its worst.

Based on the passionate responses we got from people on both sides of the issue, it seems we still, after all this time, have a long way to go in our country when it comes to race.

And, by the way, it's not like I hold a deciding vote at CBS, Inc., Mr. Imus' actual employer, or at NBC Universal, the company that owns MSNBC, and my place of employment, NBC News, as to whether Imus and company stay or go.

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1 posted on 04/11/2007 10:25:38 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: teddyballgame
we still, after all this time, have a long way to go in our country when it comes to race.

We need to move toward a color-blind society. The biggest obstacle to that is all the black people who see every thing through a racial lens. Skin color is the be-all and end-all to the people I'm thinking of.

Sure, there are some ignorant white folks like Imus who actually make stupid racist comments. They ought to clean up their act. But the big race problem in this country is in the attitudes held by folks in the black community.

Jesse, Al -- take note: you're the problem, not the solution.

2 posted on 04/11/2007 10:30:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: teddyballgame

The whole world has the same problems. It’s not just us here in the U.S. People need to get real. Arabs don’t like Persians, Koreans don’t like Japanese, Vietnamese don’t like other Asians, Africans don’t like Whites, the French don’t like Italians, Italians don’t like Germans, the Irish don’t like Brits and the list goes on and on. It’s just the way the world is. Get use to it and don’t slam Americans as being the only ones that are this way.


3 posted on 04/11/2007 10:31:35 AM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

Where’s Bill Cosby when you need him?


4 posted on 04/11/2007 10:32:34 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds like Al has drawn his line in the sand.


5 posted on 04/11/2007 10:32:37 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: teddyballgame

“we still, after all this time, have a long way to go in our country when it comes to race” = “not enough of you horrible racist white people agree with me.”

}:-)4


6 posted on 04/11/2007 10:33:38 AM PDT by Moose4 (I don't speed in Durham--if I get pulled for 65 in a 55, Mike Nifong'll have me doing 15 to life.)
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To: teddyballgame
My freedom of speech was questioned. Some of the complaints that came in fell in that same category; I was denying Don Imus his freedom of speech. Far from it. Don Imus has the right to say whatever he wants, however hateful, stupid or uncaring. He DOES NOT have the right to say it on public airwaves or on the cable broadcast of a publicly owned company. That is a privilege, just as you do not have the right to have a license to drive a car. It is a privilege. Privileges can be revoked if certain criteria are not met.

Sorry, Al, the First Amendment makes no such distinction. Don Imus or anyone else in public life has as much right to make a fool of him/herself on the public airways as anyone else - including Al Roker. If rappers may talk about "nappy haired hos" and use the "N-word" without restriction on the public airways, so may Don Imus.

The fact of the matter is that if Al doesn't like what Imus says, he doesn't have to listen to him. And, if enough people decide that they don't like what Don Imus says, the market forces will take over and his network will respond accordingly. This is the magic and wonder of capitalism that leftists never have and never will understand. Roker is obviously over his head and out of his league on this one.

7 posted on 04/11/2007 10:36:33 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: teddyballgame

Years back on the Today Show’s morning program, everyone wore costumes. Lauer was dressed as Jennifer Lopez, and Roker was dressed as Puff Daddy. Roker LOOKED like a pimp, and people from middle America who weren’t aware that Roker was dressing like a rap artist, would have assumed Roker was dressing like a pimp.

Roker sounds a bit disingenuous here, with his outrage. It’s fine for HIM to make a tasteless joke, but not another?


8 posted on 04/11/2007 10:38:57 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: teddyballgame
Just drink your Koolaid, Al.
9 posted on 04/11/2007 10:40:18 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isnt "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: DustyMoment

“Sorry, Al, the First Amendment makes no such distinction. Don Imus or anyone else in public life has as much right to make a fool of him/herself on the public airways as anyone else - including Al Roker. If rappers may talk about “nappy haired hos” and use the “N-word” without restriction on the public airways, so may Don Imus.”

Not exactly. Don has to answer to employee General Moters and Viacom and not a record label that knows what it is getting when it produces the album. Don has the right to say what he wants but risks getting canned when advertisers pull the plug. There is also the FCC rules. Big difference.


10 posted on 04/11/2007 10:40:28 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: teddyballgame

I care as little for fat weatherman Al’s opinion as I do for that of old drunk Imus.


11 posted on 04/11/2007 10:42:14 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: teddyballgame
People have written in asking why haven't I spoken out against others who have made similar transgressions. The answer is simple; one that I'm not particularly proud of: It wasn't in my "house" and it wasn't so profoundly blatant.

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Keep talking, Roker. Let everyone know what a buffoon you really are.

12 posted on 04/11/2007 10:42:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We will never be color-blind. We must strive toward being blind to color.


13 posted on 04/11/2007 10:43:22 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: teddyballgame

Yup. Boy, nothing gets by Al.

Since when did Al become the defender of all people of color? Was I making a sandwich in the kitchen when this came on the TV?

“We still have a long way to go” in this country with regard to race. Oh, for Heaven’s sake, take a breath, Al. you’ve done pretty well in this racist country, haven’t you?

Once again, another swell example of that now age old axiom of Hollywood: “I’m famous, therefore, I am smart.”

Don’t try that line on a cave man.


14 posted on 04/11/2007 10:43:44 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Broad-minded is just another way of saying a fellow is too lazy to form an opinion." Will Rogers)
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To: teddyballgame

You don’t think CBS and MSNBC knew what they were getting?

And as far as I know, the FCC isn’t involved in this.


15 posted on 04/11/2007 10:44:15 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Moose4
“not enough of you horrible racist white people agree with me.”

May I fix this for you?

“not enough of you white people agree with me so you must be horribly racist.”

Better?

16 posted on 04/11/2007 10:46:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: teddyballgame
I’ll get outraged about Imus’s comments when Sharpton and the rest of the black community get outraged when Comedians such as Chris Rock base their entire routines on jokes about Whitey and Cracker...
17 posted on 04/11/2007 10:48:26 AM PDT by apillar
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To: teddyballgame

Al Roker isn’t fit to lick Willard Scott’s shoes clean after a walk through Willard’s Virginia farm. If Al wasn’t an Equal Opportunity hire, he should have been because he’s no weathercaster.

Now Willard Scott?

Now THERE was a weatherman!


18 posted on 04/11/2007 10:48:37 AM PDT by mkjessup ('President Rudy!!! = an aborted fetus in every pot, and no guns in any garage!!!')
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To: teddyballgame

Call me when he protests this week’s Top Ten rap songs, which include far worse, and most of which are promoted by companies that are owned by the same company that owns his network....


19 posted on 04/11/2007 10:49:22 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: teddyballgame

20 posted on 04/11/2007 10:49:46 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("On 11/07/06, 'true' conservatives and 'rat traitors joined forces to bring Sharia law to America.")
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To: Howlin
The true bigots are the bastards at the corporate level hiring pukes like Imus to do exactly what he did and has been doing for years. They know what they're hiring and for what purposes. They also make billions off of the rap crap which does in spades what the fool Imus did in segment.

All this noise in the media condemning Imus is by design misdirecting the issue away from the bigots who hired Imus to make millions off of his denigration of society and coarsening of our culture.

21 posted on 04/11/2007 10:52:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; teddyballgame; trisham; DustyMoment; apillar

I’ve read all the posts and I agree most with CCG.

And the reference to Chris Rock wasn’t lost on me, either. Who does complain when the ‘honkey cracker’ jokes come out?

I think Roker was on the right track, but he should’ve emphasized the avoidance of crassness and not just racial epithets.


22 posted on 04/11/2007 11:08:44 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: ClearCase_guy; teddyballgame; trisham; DustyMoment; apillar

I mean, making fun of Rosie O’Donuts is fun, too, but it’s not NICE.


23 posted on 04/11/2007 11:09:30 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: ClearCase_guy
Bingo!
24 posted on 04/11/2007 11:11:26 AM PDT by NordP (I know why Hollywood is concerned about global warming...heat destroys plastic. (Thanks Ann!))
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To: Howlin

You have FReep mail


25 posted on 04/11/2007 11:11:46 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Froufrou
"Looking back on when I
was a little nappy headed boy"

Stevie Wonder

Well, maybe it was the "ho" part....cause I don't remember anybody chastising Stevie for his lyrics!

26 posted on 04/11/2007 11:15:47 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: KeepUSfree
Because that's the rule Imus broke. It's okay to talk funky, but only if you're black. That's really what I think Roker was pointing to as the "big" wrong.
27 posted on 04/11/2007 11:18:08 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: teddyballgame

I seem to recall Imus and company saying ugly things about Al for quite a while. They seemed to enjoy denigrating the Today Show and all associated with it. Their emnity for Al seemed to revolve around him being fat.

So, who’s laughing now?


28 posted on 04/11/2007 11:20:13 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: trisham

People have written in asking why haven’t I spoken out against others who have made similar transgressions. The answer is simple; one that I’m not particularly proud of: It wasn’t in my “house” and it wasn’t so profoundly blatant.
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Was Al Roker or someone in his “house” tuned in to Imus that day? Somehow I think not. And if not, then he should make no comment, under the same grounds he has not written a column, to my knowledge, about hip-hop slop.


29 posted on 04/11/2007 11:20:47 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

He knows he’s being a hypocrite about the whole thing.


30 posted on 04/11/2007 11:51:46 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: teddyballgame

Sit down Al!...your grits are ready....


31 posted on 04/11/2007 12:23:08 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: teddyballgame
A team of young women, striving to excel academically and athletically surely does not deserve to have all that they worked for, all that they sacrificed for stripped away in the name of a "comedy show," in the words of Don Imus.

How was anything at all stripped away from them? You say you don't allow "it" in your house but you also call for Imus to be fired. Sounds like you don't know whether you want to control your own remote or give it to the government.

32 posted on 04/11/2007 1:09:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
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To: beer
Nappy headed pimp

33 posted on 04/11/2007 1:22:51 PM PDT by beeber (stuned)
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To: teddyballgame
I think their speech is hateful, too. I don't condone it. Don't allow it in my home. Don't use the words. Don't go to those concerts. Those companies that profit in the demeaning of women via musical lyrics, whether rap or rock, should be put on notice, as should the radio stations that play the music. Others who have used hateful language have recently been fired from prominent radio jobs. They have been held accountable. African-Americans who believe certain elements of rap music, music videos and popular entertainment need to be more respectful toward our own should speak out and repudiate that element. I know I have, and many others have as well.

The question is, Al, "What are you actually going to do about it?"... You got the soap box, Al, what are YOU going to do? Answer: I'll try to burn Imus (white) but absolutely nothing to the others (black).

Al "I See Nuth-thing" Roker is going to do nothing other than run his yap about racism because it "didn't happen in my house".

What a complete fool. Go back to sleep, Al. Al Bundy has more credibility that you.

34 posted on 04/11/2007 2:52:19 PM PDT by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I have said this time and again “ The first person that screams racism is usually the racist”


35 posted on 04/11/2007 2:55:26 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: teddyballgame
Don has the right to say what he wants but risks getting canned when advertisers pull the plug. There is also the FCC rules. Big difference.

It might be wothwhile to read my post in its entirety. You, apparently, didn't make to the last paragraph of my post which read in full: "The fact of the matter is that if Al doesn't like what Imus says, he doesn't have to listen to him. And, if enough people decide that they don't like what Don Imus says, the market forces will take over and his network will respond accordingly. This is the magic and wonder of capitalism that leftists never have and never will understand. Roker is obviously over his head and out of his league on this one."

36 posted on 04/11/2007 7:00:11 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: teddyballgame
it seems we still, after all this time, have a long way to go in our country when it comes to race.

No worries. Poverty Pimps & Race Hustlers, Inc. is doing a booming business.

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37 posted on 04/11/2007 7:03:05 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: teddyballgame
it seems we still, after all this time, have a long way to go in our country when it comes to race.

Boy, he's got that right. Elected officials in America can suppress evidence that would clear members of one race, for the purpose of getting elected by members of another race.

What do you think about racially-tinged abominations like that, Mr. Weatherman?

((* crickets chirping *))

38 posted on 04/11/2007 7:06:23 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: teddyballgame
Not exactly. Don has to answer to employee General Moters and Viacom and not a record label that knows what it is getting when it produces the album.

I would also submit that, within the context of Roker's argument, that going on the public airwaves is a privilege and not a right and he can't say that on the public airwaves in spite of the fact that Roker acknowledges his First Amendment rights to say what he wants. FCC rules have little to do with First Amendment rights. The FCC has previously ruled that obscene language such as the "F-bomb" may not be broadcast over public airwaves unless (in an updated ruling) it's use is part of a news story.

While many people don't like what Imus said and/or the context in which he made his statement, there was nothing in his comment that has been defined or upheld as obscene. IOW, the FCC is a non-player in this debate. Roker is simply trying to toss a red herring into the debate with the whole privilege nonsense. Broadcasters aren't privileged people, they are employees whose job provides them access to a microphone and/or a camera and a high power transmitter.

39 posted on 04/11/2007 7:12:08 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: don-o

When those two POS’s go to Duke and apologize on camera, then I MAY care what they say, nah, I never will.


40 posted on 04/11/2007 7:14:05 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: teddyballgame; Jeremiah Jr

The Men in Black do need to monitor Al more closely.


41 posted on 04/11/2007 7:15:01 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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