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Bloggers rail against imposing civility online ("Brave New 'Blogosphere'"?)
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 4/11/07 | Glenn Chapman

Posted on 04/11/2007 10:51:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - Outrage abounds in the "blogosphere" as a pair of Internet luminaries are lobbying for rules of behavior in the lawless world of online commentary.

Internet publisher Tim O'Reilly, credited with coining the phrase "Web 2.0," and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales triggered torrents of vitriol by proposing a "Blogging Code of Conduct" to impose civility on the Internet.

The idea came in the wake of anonymous death threats posted on the blog of author and speaker Kathy Sierra, O'Reilly's friend.

"A culture is a set of shared agreements that allows us to live together," O'Reilly wrote in a blog posting calling for a code of conduct.

"Let's make sure that the culture we create with our blogs is one that we are proud of."

The release this week of a first draft of rules of behavior for online commentary is riling bloggers who accuse its authors of acting like new-age media overlords disregarding precious rights of free speech.

"It's simply unbelievable what's going on here," a blogger writing under the name "Marcus" said in a comment forum at O'Reilly's website.

"So-called 'community standards' are merely the latest example of the agents of normalcy and entrenchment subconsciously attempting to organize, dictate, tame and pacify."

The proposed code calls for blog content to be deleted if it is abusive, threatening, libelous, false or violates promises of confidentiality or rights of privacy.

"We take responsibility for our own words and for comments we allow on our blog," the draft code states.

"We won't say anything online that we wouldn't say in person."

One of the half-dozen rules bans anonymous comments and another calls for ignoring "trolls," posters of nasty remarks.

"We believe that feeding the trolls only encourages them," the draft code says, going on to quote an adage "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it."

O'Reilly suggests that bloggers adopting a finished version of the code adorn their websites with an icon of a sheriff's badge bearing the words "civility enforced."

Bloggers averse to behavior rules can mark their websites with an icon of a stick of dynamite with a lit fuse and the words "Anything goes," the proposal offers.

"I like civility but prefer the "anything goes" badge, so how about "civility enforced with dy-no-mite?'," blogger Joe Hunkins said in a message to O'Reilly.

"Censorship is a slippery slope when you are dealing with bright people who want to take legitimate but mean-spirited shots at others. I hope these efforts, which are needed, do not dumb down the debates."

Bloggers complained that barring anonymity would gag online comments from countries with governments intolerant of free speech.

"In the authoritarian and cruel regimes, if one wants to get himself hanged, only then he would in person criticize the regime," a blogger named "Pakistan Spectator" said on the O'Reilly comment board.

"Blogging is the great and unique way of protest for the oppressed people against such regimes."

Bloggers are always free to remove what they see as inappropriate contributions to forums on their websites, said Technorati founder David Sifry. Technorati specializes in tracking and indexing blogs.

People interested in spewing caustic comments can feature them on their own websites and then leave links on those of other bloggers, Sifry said.

"One of the core principles that the Internet is built on is the principle of free speech," Sifry told AFP. "If you really are a jerk, I don't have to read what you say."

Ethical issues in the "blogosphere" mirror those raised by the relentless trend of users providing raw content to websites ranging from video-sharing superstar YouTube to news gathering organization NowPublic.

"I'm not sure a code of conduct is the answer," NowPublic co-founder Mike Tippett told AFP. "It makes about as much sense as me wearing a badge to have a conversation. It won't make a difference."

People don't need to sign pacts of civility to use telephones or send letters, Tippett noted.

"I think the wisdom of the crowds, societal mores, and the expectations of civility will generally solve the problem," Tippett said. "The Internet is just an extension of our everyday lives."

"Presumably, we are all bound by the social norms of our communities. Violate them and you are locked up."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; blogosphere; civility; imposing

1 posted on 04/11/2007 10:51:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Internet Nanny???? Fat chance. This is the last frontier...
2 posted on 04/11/2007 11:02:17 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration."- unknown)
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To: NormsRevenge
lobbying for rules of behavior in the lawless world of online commentary.

Lobbying whom?

3 posted on 04/11/2007 11:11:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

The creator of the internet, algore?


4 posted on 04/11/2007 11:22:47 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Let them know what you think of their idea...

Tim O'Reilly
Jimmy Wales

My post...

The marketplace of ideas has a built-in civility meter. We don't need censors. Let Jimmy know that if he's planning on building-in some kind of sanitizing element with his new search engine, he ought to pack it in now.

5 posted on 04/11/2007 11:37:18 PM PDT by Verax
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm sure The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler will be very pleased at this.

Warning: Very strong language and topics, NOT family or work friendly. May be addictive, close cover before striking, do not read while operating heavy machinery.

Cheers!

6 posted on 04/11/2007 11:56:47 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Just checked the the Rottweiler. Yep, he was "pleased".

Cheers!

7 posted on 04/11/2007 11:57:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow - how long will it take leftists to take this over and ban everything they don’t like?


8 posted on 04/12/2007 12:30:15 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
I make the rules on my blog. Commenter personnel security is why anonymity is necessary. My real name is not Cannoneer. I'm not responsible for the comments. Weeks could go by before I get a chance to read and delete them.
9 posted on 04/12/2007 12:31:10 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group -- Distributed IO and counter-PsyOps)
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When these ‘Internet luminaries’ demonstrate their own sacrifice for everyones good by sticking their heads up their own ass*s, then the people of the Internet should start to consider listening to them.

After all, that position is what they are asking of everyone else, isnt it???

10 posted on 04/12/2007 12:47:22 AM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Thanks. Interesting site. I’ve always appeciated your posts about armor and other things military.


11 posted on 04/12/2007 1:08:29 AM PDT by Dosa26
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To: NormsRevenge
Sounds like a bunch of liberals want to impose "PC Speech restrictions" on the internet to wipe out the truth expressed by conservatives on the web.
12 posted on 04/12/2007 2:44:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Manners.

What an interesting concept.


13 posted on 04/12/2007 2:51:03 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a RudyBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Here on Free Republic, we observe our own code of conduct. Truly foul language or threats will get one banned pretty quick. Now DUhmmieland and Kos....


14 posted on 04/12/2007 5:39:41 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("We're Living In A Twilight World..."- Swingout Sister)
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To: NormsRevenge

Self-control is a lost art.


15 posted on 04/12/2007 9:21:05 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe I missed it, but I don’t see anything suggesting this ‘code of conduct’ would be imposed on anyone. Everything I’ve heard about it indicates this would be voluntary. It sounds like some people are suggesting a blogger does not have the right to enforce a code of conduct on his own website?


16 posted on 04/12/2007 10:36:53 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Caipirabob
Sounds like a bunch of liberals want to impose "PC Speech restrictions" on the internet to wipe out the truth expressed by conservatives on the web.

I don't see why it's so difficult to differentiate between what PC and simple civility, but I suppose even that is beyond some people.

17 posted on 04/12/2007 10:41:35 AM PDT by nosofar
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