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Time to reinstate the Hippocratic Oath.
1 posted on 04/12/2007 6:27:59 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

He’s Truly and Sincerely dead............


2 posted on 04/12/2007 6:30:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: shrinkermd

I bet this happens more than you would think. I wonder Doctors in ERs earn commissions on organs obtained?


3 posted on 04/12/2007 6:32:07 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isnt "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: shrinkermd

They are hurrying the process up. Why take the time to starve someone to death when you can just call them brain dead and get the goodies quicker?

What a sick society we have become!


4 posted on 04/12/2007 6:32:39 AM PDT by Homeschool Christian Mom of 5
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To: shrinkermd

Tis Only A Flesh Wound.

No You're Brain Dead.
So Lay Down - We Want Your Organs!


8 posted on 04/12/2007 6:41:05 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: shrinkermd

“Time to reinstate the Hippocratic Oath....”

This died with the advent of the AMA and the FDA - both have become evil tools of the Drug Cartels. This is not to say that individuals, doctors, nurses etc in the medical community are evil or corrupt - many truly care about the patients they treat, and are in the business to help people be well. I do not believe that the Drug Cartel, the AMA or the FDA care about any of us or our health - they are after the money to be milked through the system into their gruby, greedy, dirty hands and pockets.


13 posted on 04/12/2007 6:46:36 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: shrinkermd
Foster, who had suffered a brain hemorrhage, died 11 days later at Community Regional Medical Center in Fresno. By then, Sanchez said, his organs were not viable for donation.

I'm glad they saved him! [smirk]

Methinks there is a bit of confusion regarding terminal and brain dead. Brain dead is a distinct medical condition, but there are numerous other variables that can lead to a terminal prognosis for organ transplant reasons.

They tried and failed to convince the family that he was hours, days from death with no possibility of recovery, and the tighty righties are now seizing the moment to create another Shiavo for their hyperbolic BS.

Carry on! My analysis is complete.

22 posted on 04/12/2007 7:11:01 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: shrinkermd

YES, Doctors, hospitals, et al DO compromise care in order to harvest the high profit organs.

They decide, “patient will die anyways” so presto you are dead.

consider the slur of “donor cycle” for motorcycle accidents. They have a predisposition to sacrifice care in order to harvest organs right off the bat.


24 posted on 04/12/2007 7:20:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: shrinkermd

What should we expect from a society that kills unborn babies for their stem cells.


25 posted on 04/12/2007 7:21:35 AM PDT by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: shrinkermd

This is why the donor box on my drivers license is unchecked !


33 posted on 04/12/2007 7:48:39 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: shrinkermd

Personally, if my condition was such that it was hard to tell whether or not I was really brain-dead, and I had a brain hemorrhage that made meaningful survival impossible (i.e. survival with awareness and with at least some ability to communicate), I’d a lot rather be finished off 11 days early and save the lives of many other people (along with providing restored vision to yet another person), than to be kept “alive” via various tubes and machines for 11 more days while losing the possibility of saving all those other people. Many years of several other people’s relatively healthy lives are worth more than 11 days of my life in a vegetative or semi-vegetative state with no realistic hope of improvement. In a free country, people ought to be free to make that choice via an advance medical directive.


51 posted on 04/12/2007 9:24:38 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: shrinkermd
The apparent close call is the second in recent months to raise questions about whether, amid a national organ shortage, doctors might be compromising the care of prospective donors.

The hospital is an institution of the state and is grouped in the dept of justice. The state has the power, not only of declaring death, but of setting the groundrules. The doctors are agents of the state. Oddly, the state also has the power to declare life, and that is also a legal decision that anybody feels free to disagree with but has no power in the matter.

57 posted on 04/12/2007 9:43:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: shrinkermd

I’ll still donate when the time comes, even though friends claim I’m brain dead now. Travelin’ dudes like me need to be out and about in death as well as life.


59 posted on 04/12/2007 9:51:18 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: shrinkermd; Slip18

This is why I refuse to be a donor. I want all decisions made about treating me to be based on my condition, not the viability of my organs for somebody else to take from me before I’m finished with them.


60 posted on 04/12/2007 9:53:02 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't ask.)
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To: shrinkermd
In a twisted way, this reminds me of a Monty Python skit.

Vultures, I like that description. Not unusual, as those that go into medicine these days are often as ruthless as lawyers in the pursuit of riches.

63 posted on 04/12/2007 10:13:52 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: shrinkermd

The left is a culture of death, and wants to get rid of people who they deem useless. The left is very happy with this sort of thing, and they work relentlessly to get laws that allow them to unload “useless” people.


72 posted on 04/12/2007 1:05:37 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: shrinkermd

But I thought this never happened?!!!/sarcasm.


73 posted on 04/12/2007 1:07:38 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: shrinkermd

I hate it when they harvest my organs and I’m not brain dead.


79 posted on 04/12/2007 7:33:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: shrinkermd

I was advised several years ago by a buddy who it an EMS to not sign any donor cards. The time they try to resusitate someone who signed is half that on a non-donor.


80 posted on 04/12/2007 8:01:51 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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