Rudy is Chilled by Draft; He's a Dodger: Vets (deferment called "rare and questionable")

New York Post ^ | April 15, 2007 | CATHY BURKE

[Liz]

.... Rudy Giuliani carries a lot of baggage - but it's his draft-dodging past that may prove the biggest drag, prominent veterans tell New York magazine in tomorrow's issue. Speaking about terrorism and the Iraq war last week, Giuliani boasted, "It is something I understand better than anyone else running for president." But it was draft deferments that kept Giuliani, 62, out of Vietnam while he attended law school. He was granted a 2-A occupational deferment for his job as a law clerk in 1969 after his boss, the late Manhattan federal Judge Lloyd MacMahon, wrote a letter to the local draft board - a move criticized years later as rare and questionable. Law clerks were not on the 1968 list of critical jobs that qualified for occupational deferments. Giuliani "has made it clear that if he had been called up, he would have served," Giuliani spokeswoman Katie Levinson told New York magazine. He was opposed to the war in Vietnam on "strategic and tactical" grounds," she added, although she wouldn't offer specifics.

"If Giuliani is the nominee, we're going to hammer him with ads, and it's going to be easy because the issue is simple: He's a draft dodger," Jon Soltz, an Iraq vet who served as a captain and runs VoteVets.org, a left-leaning version of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth .......a sense that a candidate can handle the role of commander-in-chief remains important to most Americans.

[Liz]

......draft deferments kept Giuliani, 62, out of Vietnam while he attended law school. He was granted a 2-A occupational deferment for his job as a law clerk in 1969 after his boss, the late Manhattan federal Judge Lloyd MacMahon, wrote a letter to the local draft board - a move criticized years later as rare and questionable. Law clerks were not on the 1968 list of critical jobs that qualified for occupational deferments.........

That was then. This is now.

Rooty's spokeswoman Katie Levinson told New York magazine Rooty was opposed to the war in Vietnam on "strategic and tactical" grounds.......

The thought of this slick dodger Rooty plotting to send even one American soldier into battle is nauseating.

[ketsu]

Who cares? Practically every politician today is a draft dodger, republican or democrat(Cheney, Bush and Clinton all dodged the draft one way or another). If you look at the “War Heroes” crew, McCain and Murtha, they’re not exactly models of good legislators themselves.

All the blabbering about draft dodging is stupid.

[Tribune7]

Why would you say Bush dodged the draft?

[Liz]

Rooty's Spin Cycle

......Rooty was attending law school when he was granted a 2-A occupational deferment for his job as a law clerk in 1969.........his boss, the late Manhattan federal Judge Lloyd MacMahon, wrote a letter to the local draft board - a move criticized years later as rare and questionable. Law clerks were not on the 1968 list of critical jobs that qualified for occupational deferments.........

..... but Rooty's spokeswoman Katie Levinson told New York magazine in tomorrow's issue that Rooty was "opposed" to the war in Vietnam on "strategic and tactical" grounds.......

And there goes Rooty down the drain......Roto-Rooty.

[ketsu]

> Why would you say Bush dodged the draft?

Going into the National Guard was a common way for rich kids to get out of Vietnam.

[Godebert]

So not only is Giuliani......

Pro-abortion

Pro-illegal immigration/Amnesty

Anti-2nd Amendment

Pro-homosexual agenda

.....but also a draft-dodging elitist puke.

[DeerfieldObserver]

Compare Giuliani’s evading the draft with Obama’s four years in the Marines, and Hillary Clinton’s three-year stint as a Liutanant in the Army.

[DeerfieldObserver]

Gingrich and Romney never served either. I guess we all have to vote for McCain!

[SampleMan]

So Bush dodged the draft by joining the National Guard? Who else dodged the draft? Everyone in the Coast Guard? Perhaps all non-aircrewman in the USAF?

[Liz]

So not only is Giuliani......Pro-abortion---Pro-illegal immigration/Amnesty---Anti-2nd Amendment----Pro-homosexual agenda .....but also a draft-dodging elitist puke.

Not to worry---now that Rooty's draft-dodging days are a campaign issue, Rooty will announce he is appointing his wife Juti as Secy of Defense.

There. Don't you feel better now?

[madconserv]

Hold on here folks, I need more proof. This is a Dem attack. Check this:

Murray warns of crush on VA Iraq War Friday, 19 January 2007 ‘Surge’ in Iraq will affect returning soldiers’ health care, senator says Washington, The News Tribune, Jan. 12 - A White House plan to send additional U.S. troops to Iraq will only increase the burden on an already overstressed Department of Veterans Affairs, Sen. Patty Murray warned Thursday, saying soldiers returning from combat already face long delays in securing benefits and health care. “The president is asking for 21,000 additional troops,” said the Evergreen State Democrat, one of Capitol Hill’s sharpest critics of the administration’s veterans polices. “We need to know what the cost will be.” Murray joined a group of veterans at a news conference sponsored by a new coalition called Americans Against Escalation in Iraq. The coalition includes such groups as VoteVets.org, MoveOn.org Political Action and the Service Employees International Union.

http://www.votevets.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=7&Itemid=49

[dmw]

“(Cheney, Bush and Clinton all dodged the draft one way or another)”

You think that lying on FR is gonna get past us. Not. Bush served in the National Guard, so don’t be calling him a draft dodger. If you want to vote for a liberal then do it, but don’t lie to justify it.

See my tagline.

[ketsu]

All of this is meaningless to the dicussion. But here you go anyway:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072899.htm

It was May 27, 1968, at the height of the Vietnam War. Bush was 12 days away from losing his student deferment from the draft at a time when Americans were dying in combat at the rate of 350 a week. The unit Bush wanted to join offered him the chance to fulfill his military commitment at a base in Texas. It was seen as an escape route from Vietnam by many men his age, and usually had a long waiting list. Bush had scored only 25 percent on a "pilot aptitude" test, the lowest acceptable grade. But his father was then a congressman from Houston, and the commanders of the Texas Guard clearly had an appreciation of politics.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Obviously Rudy is seen as a threat to the left which sponsored the revealing of this information. Whenever anyone is a threat to the left they look for something to roast the person on. If they don’t find anything they make it up. A compliant media grabs it and blows it all out of proportion.

[SampleMan]

Quoting the Washington Post, what you don’t have any documents from CBS?

[ketsu]

You think that lying on FR is gonna get past us. Not. Bush served in the National Guard, so don’t be calling him a draft dodger. If you want to vote for a liberal then do it, but don’t lie to justify it.

? uuuuh... I'm sure Texas was under great danger from the North Vietnamese. Anyway. You don't *get* it. Who cares? Read my ealier post. If you look at the War Hero and draft dodger politicians it makes *no* difference to the abilities as a politician. I guess you're voting for McCain aren't you?

[ketsu]

> Quoting the Washington Post, what you don’t have any documents from CBS? :rolleyes:

[Lawdoc]

I saw Fred Thompson as skipper on an aircraft carrier - that should be enough for Fred. :)

[finnigan2]

Just to keep you happy, I just read that Rudy’s father Harold and some of his other relatives have a criminal past. Apparently, so the story goes, “Harold Giuliani had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing prison;[11] after his release he served as an enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D’Avanzo, who ran an organized criminal loan sharking and gambling operation out of a restaurant in Brooklyn.[12]”
You can expect this skeleton in the closet to surface just as soon as Hitlery’s hit squad figure that they milked the draft issue for it’s maximum benefit.

[dmw]

“You don’t *get* it.”

Oh, I get it alright—you simply aren’t being honest. Typical liberal behavior.