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Cinnamon and Diabetes—Disease Type Appears to Matter
Science News Online ^ | April 14, 2007 | Janet Raloff

Posted on 04/15/2007 12:53:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: redhead
My morning sugars are now around 80,

Wow! Even w/Byetta and Lantus I don't get numbers like that. Since it's the start of a new week, I think I'll drag out the bottle of capsules and do a pilot study. I'll give it a week (2*3 a day) to see if I notice any difference.

My mother is diabetic and seems to manage well. My uncle is also diabetic and didn't pay attention when he was diagnosed. He has been on dialysis for 15 years (!) and is a double amputee. I am trying hard to avoid all that; especially as I was diagnosed earlier than they were.

61 posted on 04/15/2007 7:41:33 PM PDT by radiohead (They call me DOCTOR radiohead.)
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To: Txsleuth
testing for ketones should be easy. It's a urine dipstick.

My youngest son had childhood lipoid nephrosis when he was little, and I had to test every urination for blood, but the stick also contained reagents for sugars, ketones, and other tests. The sticks are expensive, but they are a good investment.

62 posted on 04/15/2007 7:42:21 PM PDT by redhead (Fishing in Alaska is like fishing in Heaven...)
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To: Marysecretary

“I’m a type 2 diabetic and use cinnamon lot on apple sauce and grits, etc., and have never really seen a difference in my blood sugars.”

How much are you using a day? Sprinkled into food is NOT the way to take it. It requires larger amounts, but capsules are easily available, and inexpensive. Good luck.

red


63 posted on 04/15/2007 7:46:07 PM PDT by redhead (Fishing in Alaska is like fishing in Heaven...)
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To: Marysecretary
I’m a type 2 diabetic and use cinnamon lot on apple sauce and grits, etc., and have never really seen a difference in my blood sugars.

How much cinnamon do you use? Go to comment# 53. Click on the third link. Enter just cinnamon and type II diabetes into PubMed's query box. You can get an idea of the doses used in the studies done so far. They don't seem to have a handle on how cinnamon works. Genetics might come into play.

64 posted on 04/15/2007 8:17:56 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I detest the sugar substitutes. They taste horrible to me. But cinnamon is wonderful because it tastes sweet but is a spice, not a sugar.

Diabetics must be careful, of course, as most cinnamon treats (i.e. cinnamon rolls) have cinnamon combined with sugar and starches - meaning high carbs. But cinnamon, by itself, is harmless and a good additive for those who want a sweet taste without the sugar.

One of my favorite products is South Beach Diet Toasted Wheats. They are like mini-wheats with cinnamon added instead of sugar.


65 posted on 04/15/2007 8:28:34 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Whoever first portrayed the Democrats as braying jackasses was an exceptional judge of character.)
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To: Marysecretary
I’d give cinnamon one more try. I take a 1,000 mg capsule at bedtime. Buy it from a reliable source (GNC?). Best of luck to you.
66 posted on 04/15/2007 8:48:38 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: IslandJeff
Stem cell experiment lets diabetics forgo insulin, transplants performed on diabetics in Brazil

This is great news about adult stem cells in type I DM in itself. This MSNBC story links to a Journal of the American Medical Association, JAMA, editorial which is a pretty good review. Another freebie is the original article in JAMA.

67 posted on 04/15/2007 8:49:43 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: slowhandluke

what is sarcoid?


68 posted on 04/15/2007 9:05:46 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: lonestar
I had the same question and looked it up. Try these:

http://noairtogo.tripod.com/sarcoid.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcoidosis

69 posted on 04/15/2007 9:15:07 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: neverdem

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1815392/posts


70 posted on 04/15/2007 9:32:11 PM PDT by IslandJeff (There will be Democrats in heaven, except they'll be too busy organizing the staff)
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To: mamelukesabre
He was diabetes free for approx 20 years, then it came back and he’s been on insulin now for 10-15 years. I’m gonna tell him about the cinnamon thing. That would be really cool if he could go off insulin again.

Find out if his C-Peptide level was checked. The pancreas makes proinsulin, which is cleaved yielding insulin and C-Peptide. IIRC, it's the easiest test to find out if a patient is insulin dependent.

71 posted on 04/15/2007 9:41:06 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: IslandJeff

Thanks for the link. The MSNBC article had the link to the commmentary in JAMA. It was an exceptionally well written review with linked references, IIRC. JAMA also has the original article as a freebie as well. You might have to register, not subscribe.


72 posted on 04/15/2007 9:49:17 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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73 posted on 04/15/2007 10:05:17 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

My sister, who has high Cholesteral and was borderline diabetic, changed her diet, started eating oatmeal with cinnamon on it two years ago, and is now off her meds.


74 posted on 04/15/2007 10:33:20 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: Cyman
I don’t expect to get individual retribution against the guy who killed my son with that RPG

Well a good dump can help a lot of things. And if you don't take a dump for several days whatever problems you have ARE gonna get worse. ;)

75 posted on 04/15/2007 10:36:48 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: muawiyah
Folks with Type II diabetes should never drink juice of any kind ~ NEVER NEVER NEVER.

When I went to live with my sister aboout five years ago, she was drinking an eight ounce glass of orange juice every day for breakfast.

Then about two hours later she would crash, feeling extemely fatigued, and go to bed for two hours.

I pointed out to her, a Nurse, what the sugar was doing to her, and she stopped and immediately regained her energy.

That whole Orange Juice Advocacy, promoted by the American Heart Association, is just propaganda for the Orange Growers, and has done more medical harm than good.

In fact, the diet put out by the American Diabetes Association exacerbates diabetes.

76 posted on 04/15/2007 10:41:02 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: martin_fierro
Cool. I'll take two, then.

Works for me. Literally. My primary care doc told me to give them a try, and they did indeed bring my blood sugar level down. It wasn't up to the diabetic level yet, but at the high end of the "OK" range. A few months after I started taking the cinnamon capsules, it was pretty much normal. Somehow I ran out, and forgot to get more for long enough that I forgot I needed to. Then the last time I went looking for some, I couldn't find them. Did find some at an HEB (grocery store) in Austin on my way back from the 2nd Annual Texas Cowboy Memorial shoot in San Antonio. Already took the dose for Sunday (well half of it, you have to work up to two, as it can upset your stomach, mildly at least).

77 posted on 04/16/2007 12:23:26 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: sleepwalker
I bought mine at GNC. I do not remember the cost, but they sell them in bottles of 100-150 capsules.

GNC is a good source, and not particularly expensive. The capsules can be found in many grocery stores and some "drug" stores, with all the other herbal supplements. Couldn't find them at WalGreens though. Most health food type stores will have them, but they won't be cheap, most likely.

78 posted on 04/16/2007 12:26:26 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: muawiyah; redhead

Penzey’s spices has great cinnamon - several types. You can buy it in a 4 oz bag, which is much more economical than the little containers you get in the store. And yes, the Vietnamese cinnamon is wonderful. We have a Penzey’s outlet in my town, but their stuff is available thru mail order I believe.


79 posted on 04/16/2007 5:33:27 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (I practice Calorie Offset Trading. I eat a candy bar & pay my kid 10 bucks to run around the block)
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To: happygrl

I agree w/you 100%. I don’t know why people think they can still drink juice. I will take a light cranberry juice once in a while, but regular juices are out of the question. And I only recently started eating some fruits, in small amounts, again. My mother drinks orange juice everyday and I just want to shake her sometimes.


80 posted on 04/16/2007 5:38:14 AM PDT by radiohead (They call me DOCTOR radiohead.)
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