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Cinnamon and Diabetes—Disease Type Appears to Matter
Science News Online ^ | April 14, 2007 | Janet Raloff

Posted on 04/15/2007 12:53:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: krunkygirl

CJC does nothing to my bg’s. With normal insulin and increased water consumption, however, I just vaguely feel a bit better. Urination is pleasant instead of fearful.

I take all my supplements with meals and shots, so it all just goes “into the mix”.


41 posted on 04/15/2007 4:28:26 PM PDT by IslandJeff (There will be Democrats in heaven, except they'll be too busy organizing the staff)
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To: redhead
No matter what I did, I couldn’t get a morning/fasting sugar lower than 100mg/dl. Then I started taking plain cinnamon caps. My morning sugars are in the low-normal range now. It really WORKS for Type II. Of course, this doesn’t mean I can once again start eating all the junk I was stuffing into my piehole before...

Oh, go ahead. I hear the freshly baked apple pie, with cinnamon, beckoning you: Over here redhead..... over here.... come on .....

42 posted on 04/15/2007 4:33:06 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: IslandJeff

Help me out, Jeff.

It is my son who has the diabetes, so I am not relating personally.

Did you have pain with urination?


43 posted on 04/15/2007 4:39:43 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl

No pain, but your urine composition is a fair indicator of bg control. When diagnosed, a very dangerous condition (ketoacidosis) is very well indicated by urine with an obnoxious, acetone-type odor.

As part of his assessment, your son’s doc will occasionally take urine samples (as well as blood A1C), to check on his kidney function. Small blood vessel damage can show up concurrently in the kidneys and eyes. In the urine, when the blood vessels aren’t optimal, protein can be passed, which is a very Red flag.


44 posted on 04/15/2007 4:46:38 PM PDT by IslandJeff (There will be Democrats in heaven, except they'll be too busy organizing the staff)
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To: COBOL2Java

My diabetic husband takes cinnamon faithfully. We don’t think it helps him. But he still takes it because of the strength of what we’ve read.


45 posted on 04/15/2007 4:48:42 PM PDT by twigs
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To: IslandJeff

Thanks...I was disappointed, of course that it won’t help my kaybugs.

BTW...I drink cranberry juice for my kidneys..and I don’t have diabetes..but I used to get bladder and kidney infections..

I don’t anymore.


46 posted on 04/15/2007 4:55:45 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Before getting DM1, I used to just LOVE the stuff to drink.

If they would make a CJ without ANY sweetener, I’d drink it. Love bitter/sour stuff.

What I take is, obviously, in capsule form, so no high-fructose corn syrup (or stupid federal farm subsidies) for me!


47 posted on 04/15/2007 4:58:35 PM PDT by IslandJeff (There will be Democrats in heaven, except they'll be too busy organizing the staff)
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To: neverdem

Just saw cinammon , either powder or capsules, yesterday at COSTCO. Was in a hurry and didn’t stop but it caught my eye. It is with all of their vitamins, next to fish oil.


48 posted on 04/15/2007 5:00:04 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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To: redhead

My dad suposedly cured himself of diabetes by eliminating all forms of sugar, except fresh fruit, and he started running marathons. He was diabetes free for approx 20 years, then it came back and he’s been on insulin now for 10-15 years. I’m gonna tell him about the cinnamon thing. That would be really cool if he could go off insulin again.


49 posted on 04/15/2007 5:08:03 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: IslandJeff

Dang...yes, I hadn’t thought of that..I am still having to get used to thinking about things like that.

My granddaughter’s bs goes high so often that I am always having to test her ketones...I think she hates that more than testing her blood.


50 posted on 04/15/2007 5:11:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: muawiyah
Benefit? I do watch sugar and starch, as they feed the bugs behind the sarcoid, but I have no diabetic symptoms at all any more - nor do I get any when I break the diet for holiday meals. Pre-MP, I'd tried to cut back on sugar/starch, but could not shake the cravings. After a while on the MP, the cravings went away.

Yeah, it's known that auto-immune diseases are difficult to get diagnosed right or diagnosed at all. It took 7 years from the first hospitalization for me to get sarcoid diagnosed. Celiac was one of the things tried along the way. Dropping wheat gluten did nothing for me.

The MP is claiming a lot in terms of the various diagnoses it might address. However, all of them are also treated by the same set of corticosteroids, so this would not be the first thing to treat auto-immune disease as group.

The doctors describe sarcoid as 'a systemic disease of unknown origin'. The ones I saw pre-MP seemed to understand this as meaning sarcoid can attack any organ or system in the body, which makes it hard to diagnose as it can present almost any symptom in the medical lexicon. From my own experience, and talking to other sarcoid patients, it's clear that sarcoid is a systemic and progressive disease and it will eventually attack every system and organ in the body. Starting with high fevers and IBS symptoms, the sarcoid progressed to diabetes, thyroid symptoms, and retinopathy. It's not unknown for fibromyalgia to blossom into lupus, or lupus to become sarcoid. All of my sarcoid symptoms are gone or receding.

Once understood as a set of pathogens that use a shared trick to evade the immune system, it's understandable that a single approach (though with wide spectrum antibiotics) can cure a bunch of symptoms masquerading as separate diseases.

51 posted on 04/15/2007 5:53:46 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke
Glad to see they checked you for Celiac.

That's progress.

52 posted on 04/15/2007 5:56:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: alloysteel; battlegearboat
I have a problem with the prior description of type II diabetes. Perhaps the following links will help. If the first two are too technical, then the last one is from the government for the general public.

Type II diabetes, a more widespread metabolic disorder, generally manifests after the age of 40 and involves progressive development of insulin resistance leading to overt hyperglycemia. Insulin is the major hormone that counters the concerted action of a number of hyperglycemia-generating hormones. It enhances glucose uptake in muscle and adipose tissue, and reduces gluconeogenesis and lipolysis. Insulin resistance, caused by obesity, can result in elevated fasting and postprandial glucose levels and predispose individuals to the risk of type II diabetes.

Type II diabetes is characterized by altered insulin secretory dynamics with retention of endogenous pancreatic insulin secretion, absence of ketosis (accounting for another of its names, ketosis-resistant diabetes), and insulin resistance due to diminished target-cell action of insulin. Although type II diabetes is heterogeneous, both of the major pathogenetic mechanisms (ie, impaired islet beta-cell function [impaired insulin secretion] and impaired insulin action [insulin resistance or decreased insulin sensitivity]) (1-4) are operative in variable degrees in most patients. Current thinking is that separate genetic defects are responsible for the predominance of one mechanism over the other. In addition, environmental factors create further insulin resistance.

Most newer references seem to stress insulin resistance.

These results suggest that cinnamon extract has a regulatory role in blood glucose level and lipids and it may also exert a blood glucose-suppressing effect by improving insulin sensitivity or slowing absorption of carbohydrates in the small intestine.

Those are the only mechanisms for cinnamon's effect on blood glucose that I've come across. Enter cinnamon and type II diabetes into PubMed's query box in the third link. You'll get 11 titles, most with abstracts.

Diabetes

53 posted on 04/15/2007 6:39:04 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I’m a type 2 diabetic and use cinnamon lot on apple sauce and grits, etc., and have never really seen a difference in my blood sugars.


54 posted on 04/15/2007 6:40:09 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: redhead

I’ll try the caps. Thanks. cinnamon itself doesn’t seem to help.


55 posted on 04/15/2007 6:41:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: muawiyah

If you make your own fresh, and don’t drink a ton of it, it’s not so bad for you. It’s how MUCH you drink that makes a difference. I only have a couple of ounces with my pills.


56 posted on 04/15/2007 6:43:22 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: ExtremeUnction

106 is a great reading! If I go below 90, my eyes get ‘splotchy’ and I get whoozy. I would be SOOOO happy with 106. It’s a normal reading—between 80 and 110 is good.


57 posted on 04/15/2007 6:46:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Paisan

That is much better than the fishy aftertaste from taking fish oil capsules that are also supposed to control cholesterol.


58 posted on 04/15/2007 6:49:00 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

for later reading


59 posted on 04/15/2007 6:59:50 PM PDT by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: radiohead

Cinnamon is easily available in capsules. I started out taking 2 three times a day, then cut back to one, then to 1 twice a day. It works well enough that an occasional “booster” is all I have needed to worry about. My morning sugars are now around 80, which is normal.


60 posted on 04/15/2007 7:37:42 PM PDT by redhead (Fishing in Alaska is like fishing in Heaven...)
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