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U.S. Marines who shot civilians in Afghanistan violated international law, report says
North County Times ^ | April 14, 2007 | FISNIK ABRASHI

Posted on 04/15/2007 1:36:59 PM PDT by rightalien

KABUL, Afghanistan -- A U.S. Marine unit broke international humanitarian law by using excessive force during a shooting spree last month that left 12 people dead, an Afghan human rights group said in a report Saturday.

The troops fired indiscriminately at pedestrians, people in cars, public buses and taxis in six different locations along a 10-mile stretch of road in Nangahar province after an explosives-rigged minivan crashed into their convoy on March 4, according to the report by Afghanistan's Independent Human Rights Commission.

Six people were killed near the blast site, while the other six died on the road as the troops sped away, said Ahmad Nader Nadery, the group's spokesman.

The dead included a 1-year-old boy, a 4-year-old girl and three women, the report said. Thirty-five people were wounded in the shootings.

"In failing to distinguish between civilians and legitimate military targets the U.S. Marines Corps Special Forces employed indiscriminate force," the report said. "Their actions thus constitute a serious violation of international humanitarian law standards."

The group said its report was based on interviews with victims and their families, witnesses, local community leaders, hospital officials and police.

A U.S. military commander has also determined that the Marines used excessive force and referred the case for possible criminal inquiry, a senior U.S. defense official told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

U.S. military officials said after the incident that the suicide attack was part of an ambush that included militant gunmen shooting at Marines, which may have caused some of the civilian casualties.

The human rights group's report said "there is some evidence at the immediate site of the incident to support this claim, but it is far from conclusive and all witnesses and Afghan government officials interviewed uniformly denied that any attack beyond the initial (suicide car bombing) took place."

The group also alleges that U.S. troops serving with NATO's International Security Assistance Force in southern Afghanistan returned to the area after the bombing for an investigation and a cleanup operation, which involved the removal of all bullet shells and cartridges.

The group said it interviewed a member of Afghanistan's National Police criminal investigations office who said his unit had searched around the site after the incident, but that "ISAF forces had collected all shells, magazines, cartridges from the spot and we could not find any trace or sign of them."

U.S. military officials were not available to comment on that allegation.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly pleaded for Western troops to show more restraint amid concern that civilian deaths shake domestic support for the foreign military involvement that he needs to prop up his government, increasingly under threat from a resurgent Taliban.

The initial U.S. military investigation concluded that the Marines' response was "out of proportion to the threat that was immediately there," the senior U.S. defense official said Wednesday in Washington.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe's results have not been released. The findings have been forwarded to U.S. Central Command, which has responsibility for U.S. military operations in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Another official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said the initial military investigation concluded that there was a "reasonable suspicion" the Marines violated the rules for the use of deadly force, and that crimes, possibly including homicide, may have been committed in the aftermath of the convoy being struck.

One Marine was wounded in the blast, which also killed the bomber.

Army Maj. Gen. Francis H. Kearney III, head of Special Operations Command Central, opened an investigation into the incident after taking the highly unusual step of ordering the unit of about 120 Marines out of Afghanistan.

"We deeply regret the loss of life and casualties that resulted from the (suicide car bombing) and the actions that followed," Lt. Col. Lou Leto, spokesman at Kearney's command headquarters in Tampa, Fla., said in a statement. "We will work to prevent similar events from occurring in the future."

The Marines are in a special operations unit that deployed from Camp LeJeune, N.C., in January with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit. After Kearney ordered them out of Afghanistan, they returned to their unit's ships in the Persian Gulf.

The unit is one of four Marine Special Operations Command companies established since the command was created in February 2006. The one ordered out of Afghanistan was the first to deploy abroad.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanhighway; afghanistan; defendourmarines; marines; marsoc; military; war
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1 posted on 04/15/2007 1:37:06 PM PDT by rightalien
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To: rightalien

More FAKE NEWS from the Pro-Terrorist Left.


2 posted on 04/15/2007 1:42:20 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (Speaker Pelosi - Three cheers for Amnesty!)
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To: rightalien

Ah, but the Geneva violation by Iran’s parading captured sailors under Burquas, along with Pelosi chiming in to do the same on ourselves (in the fake name of mulitculturalism), is not international war crime and mandates negociation and cool heads....

Sure....

This globo world is asking to be nuked


3 posted on 04/15/2007 1:47:10 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: rightalien

Pulling flush chain now...


4 posted on 04/15/2007 1:47:55 PM PDT by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: rightalien

I have a very simple solution:
1. Draft a whole lot of lawyers - we have a surplus.
2. Draft a whole bunch of TV journalists - we have a surplus.
Assign one lawyer and one journalist to every fire team in a combat zone. If they don’t like weapons, allow them to go unarmed - but don’t risk a GIs life protecting them.


5 posted on 04/15/2007 1:49:00 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: rightalien

Why don’t these reports ever mention the thousands of innocents the muslim terrorists kill?


6 posted on 04/15/2007 2:05:47 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: rightalien

Where is the report on the outrageous massacre by the French recently? /*international crickets


7 posted on 04/15/2007 2:07:51 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops!)
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To: rightalien
Al Qaeda terrorists who shot and killed civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, violated international kaw - report does not say.
8 posted on 04/15/2007 2:08:22 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: rightalien
More violations of international law?


9 posted on 04/15/2007 2:08:33 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: rightalien

Just as soon as the “Internationalists” pull their thumbs out of their ass and help in fighting the world’s monsters - they’ll be entitled to an opinion...

Until then - what they say, means less than nothing.

Semper Fi


10 posted on 04/15/2007 2:12:25 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: driftdiver
"Afghan Human Rights Group" ??

What group ? I want to know more about this group. Who set it up, when , where ? In this case it could very well be some anti American leftist group affiliated with Amnesty or whatever. But any time you hear Drive-By media journalists use phrase like "its been said" or "people say" or "its been reported that", rest assured its only THEM saying so without having the guts to admit it.

11 posted on 04/15/2007 2:17:22 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: driftdiver

Would that make a difference here if our guys did wrong?


12 posted on 04/15/2007 2:20:14 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: misterrob

“Would that make a difference here if our guys did wrong?”

People do make mistakes and show poor judgement. The military does a pretty good job of weeding out the sickos tho.

I highly doubt the marines targeted a 1 yr old child. It may be possible they accidentally hit a 1 yr old that a terrorist was taking cover behind. We KNOW the terrorists target children. We know they will send suicide bombers to markets, to groups of children getting candy from GIs. We know they’ll stick bombs in the cars of children.

Doesn’t that make a difference? In this case we don’t even know who killed the children. Who is to say the terrorist didnt shoot them expressly so they could blame the marines.


13 posted on 04/15/2007 2:26:01 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: rightalien
...an explosives-rigged minivan crashed into their convoy on March 4...

...which is, I believe, also against international law although you'd never know that from this "report."

14 posted on 04/15/2007 2:26:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
"Afghan Human Rights Group" ??

This group only exists and is allowed to operate in Stan because of our actions in Stan. Because of the sweat and blood U.S. soldiers have given....

15 posted on 04/15/2007 2:33:00 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: misterrob
Would that make a difference here if our guys did wrong?

No.

16 posted on 04/15/2007 2:47:02 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: rightalien
"...civilians and are legitimate military targets..."

There, it's fixed!

When the muzzies mix with civilians to do their mischief, the civilians become enemy combatants.

Political Correctness has no place on any battlefield. .............. FRegards

17 posted on 04/15/2007 8:02:02 PM PDT by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: rightalien

18 posted on 04/15/2007 8:03:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: oneamericanvoice
So you have a source for this statement? I am unaware of it and am interested. Thanks.
19 posted on 04/16/2007 6:24:54 AM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: DevSix; Cannoneer No. 4; Steel Wolf
“The group said its report was based on interviews with victims and their families, witnesses, local community leaders, hospital officials and police.”

Curious if this village and these witnesses are protected by the coalition forces or if they have to live day in and day out under the treat of Taliban infiltrators?

Also curious if there are any other forensic analysis available?

20 posted on 04/16/2007 6:28:09 AM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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