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Hearing Footsteps: Thompson and Obama Gain on Rudy and Hillary
Townhall.com ^ | April 14, 2007 | Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Posted on 04/15/2007 4:27:07 PM PDT by Josh Painter

There was good news this week for... soon-to-be candidate Fred Thompson. The Los Angeles Times survey of April 5-9 found that... Thompson had moved into second place... in the GOP presidential primary. This is an amazing showing for an undeclared candidate...

The surprisingly positive results for Thompson in the L.A. Times survey may be the final impetus that convinces him to jump into the race. There have been several recent indications that Thompson is abut to declare.

First, his public disclosure that he was diagnosed with lymphoma several years ago and is now in remission could only have been made to pave the way for his entry in the Republican primary. A potential candidate would have to get that information out before someone leaked it. And.. if Thompson was not a candidate, he would have no reason to divulge that personal information.

Thompson has also scheduled a number of high profile appearances in Washington...

The vibes in Washington certainly suggest that Thompson is about to jump into the race, probably declaring his candidacy in May...

The Thompson numbers are important in two respects: They show that McCain is continuing to slip and slide as his campaign seems to lose momentum every day. But they also matter because Newt Gingrich, the other looming presence over the race, is badly trailing behind the undeclared Thompson, who seems to be picking up Newt's voters. So if Newt stays out until September, as he has vowed he would, the survey indicates that Fred would obliterate him in the meantime and make it all but impossible for him to run. It looks like Republicans are still looking for an ideal candidate and take Thompson quite seriously.

If Thompson were to run, he would fight an all-out battle with Giuliani for conservative Republicans...

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fred; nomination; republican; thompson
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Fredipedia v2.20: The Definitive Fred Thompson Reference
1 posted on 04/15/2007 4:27:09 PM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: jellybean

ping


2 posted on 04/15/2007 4:28:13 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Morris predicts after we decide. ;)


3 posted on 04/15/2007 4:30:26 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Sturm Ruger
This is an amazing showing for an undeclared candidate...


4 posted on 04/15/2007 4:30:27 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Morris gives far too much credence to Newt’s candidacy. While he may make s a showing in the GOP primary polls, nationwide among all voters, Newt sinks like a brick.


5 posted on 04/15/2007 4:42:33 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Sturm Ruger
If Thompson were to run, he would fight an all-out battle, with against Giuliani, for on the side of conservative Republicans...\

There, much more accurate.

6 posted on 04/15/2007 4:43:56 PM PDT by M203M4
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To: Sturm Ruger
But they also matter because Newt Gingrich, the other looming presence over the race, is badly trailing behind the undeclared Thompson, who seems to be picking up Newt's voters.

Newt didn't have much of a chance anyway and when he "debated" global warming with Kerry last week and agreeded with that idiot about the man made cause of global warming he signed his death certificate.

7 posted on 04/15/2007 5:05:28 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Sorry, post # 7, agreeded=agreed:)


8 posted on 04/15/2007 5:07:10 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Sturm Ruger

Morris is wrong. If Gingrich drops out, Thompson does not benefit all that much. Giuliani would benefit even more. He is now at a healthy 38% among Republicans. No one else comes close. Here is what Gallup found in early April:

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If Gingrich were to stay out of the race, his support would likely be spread among the leading candidates, roughly in proportion to their existing votes, based on an analysis of Gingrich’s supporters’ second choice. Giuliani would be the top choice of 42% of Republicans after Gingrich votes are factored out, with McCain at 18%, Thompson at 12%, and Romney at 7% under this scenario.

Republicans’ Preference for 2008 Presidential Nomination,
Excluding Newt Gingrich

%

Rudy Giuliani
42

John McCain
18

Fred Thompson
12

Mitt Romney
7

Tommy Thompson
3

Ron Paul
2

Tom Tancredo
2

George Pataki
2

Mike Huckabee
1

Chuck Hagel
1

Sam Brownback
1

Duncan Hunter
1

Jim Gilmore
*

Other
1

None
2

All/any
*

No opinion
5

Note: Ballot recalculated substituting Gingrich supporters’
second choice for their Gingrich vote

Giuliani has also maintained a steady lead over McCain in a one-on-one matchup of the top two candidates, with a 57% to 38% edge in the latest poll.


9 posted on 04/15/2007 5:10:10 PM PDT by writeblock
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To: Sturm Ruger

I am really hoping for Thompson.

Newt is unelectable. Rudy is un”vote”able.


10 posted on 04/15/2007 5:10:33 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Sturm Ruger

Vote for Rudy!

He’ll make the trains run on time!


11 posted on 04/15/2007 5:18:13 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: writeblock

writeblock wrote: “Morris is wrong. If Gingrich drops out, Thompson does not benefit all that much. Giuliani would benefit even more.”

But that doesn’t take into account the results of another poll, one conducted by Newsweek, showing that most Republicans are unaware of how radically liberal Rudy’s position are on four key issues:

34 percent of all Republican voters polled and 38 percent of social conservatives are aware he is pro-choice on abortion. And 51 percent of all Republican voters and 49 percent of social conservatives aren’t sure where he stands on the issue. On gun control, just 17 percent of all Republican voters polled and 19 percent of social conservatives are aware he’s a supporter of gun control. Sixty-seven percent of Republican voters polled (66% of social conservatives) aren’t sure of his stand. Only 16 percent of all Republican voters polled and 15 percent of social conservatives are aware that Giuliani opposes a constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage; (70% overall and 72% of social conservatives aren’t aware of his position).

It’s still a long way until the first primary, plenty of time for the GOP base to learn where Rudy really stands on these four issues. There are some social conservatives who would be willing to let Rudy slide on one or two of them, but not all four.

The bottom line is that Rudy will peak soon and then start bleeding support as his more radical positions become more widely known.


12 posted on 04/15/2007 5:25:49 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: writeblock
The poll you site includes RINO’s (like you).

The polls that matter to conservatives like us are the ones here on FR where Rooty gets only ten percent of the vote.

Here is another poll from a conservative website gopnation.com.

Former Sen. Fred Thompson (568) 56%
Rep. Ron Paul (247) 24%
Rep. Duncan Hunter (208) 20%

Conservatives don't really care what you RINO’s think. We are conservatives, and conservatives don’t vote for liberals.

13 posted on 04/15/2007 5:27:22 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: writeblock
Rudy only polls as well as he does because there isn't/wasn't a "real" Republican/Conservative in the race.

Soon, you'll understand that.

:O)

P
Run, FRED, run!

14 posted on 04/15/2007 5:29:29 PM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Your personal profile page is cool.

“Fredipedia” makes me smile and laugh.

Wanna just rename the whole place here: Fred Republic?

Check with Mr. Robinson?


15 posted on 04/15/2007 5:36:19 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: NapkinUser

ping. Good news Fred/ bad news Rudytoot.


16 posted on 04/15/2007 5:45:26 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dmw
We are conservatives, and conservatives don’t vote for liberals.

Bears repeating.

We are conservatives, and conservatives don’t vote for liberals.

17 posted on 04/15/2007 5:47:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Sturm Ruger

That is an awful picture of Fred they’ve got on that article. He looks like a muppet!


18 posted on 04/15/2007 6:04:05 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: writeblock

Morris is wrong.

We can finally agree on something. Morris was born wrong and just got wronger.

BUT, you should definitely be concerned when the toesucker starts making bets like this:

“My bet is that Rudy will still prevail because terrorism trumps abortion as an issue for the GOP right, but it could get close.”


19 posted on 04/15/2007 6:08:37 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: dmw
"Conservatives don't really care what you RINO’s think."

Why did all the Duncan Hunter fans abandon him immediately to an undeclared candidate?

I thought there were principles out there?

20 posted on 04/15/2007 6:09:34 PM PDT by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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