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New Sony DVDs Not Working In Some Players [whyI don't buy Sony]
Slashdot ^ | 4/16/2007 | kdawson

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:11:05 AM PDT by sionnsar

An anonymous reader writes

"It seems that the most recent DVDs released by Sony — specifically Stranger Than Fiction, Casino Royale, and The Pursuit of Happyness — have some kind of 'feature' that makes them unplayable on many DVD players. This doesn't appear to be covered by the major media yet, but this link to a discussion over at Amazon gives a flavor of the problems people are experiencing. A blogger called Sony and was told the problem is with the new copy protection scheme, and they do not intend to fix it. Sony says it's up to the manufacturers to update their hardware."


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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Given that electronics compose the majority functioning components for digital camers (auto-focus, sensors, etc.) being an electronics ( read commodity ) mfr. makes little difference.

And let’s not forget that both Canon and Nikon started by pirating German designs.

Unless you’re a collector, it’s about finished images not cameras, except as tools.


21 posted on 04/16/2007 8:27:50 AM PDT by Covenantor
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To: sionnsar
In my house, DVDs are too fragile so I always back up a DVD purchase to my hard drive using AnyDVD (slysoft.com) and DVDShrink.

This works on any recent Sony DVD with ARccOS protection. ARccOS is Sony's proprietary DVD protection scheme that tries to fool rippers by inserting sectors with intentional CRC errors.


BUMP

22 posted on 04/16/2007 8:32:58 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Sony is not a real camera company, they are in the business of making electronics, not cameras.

My first digital camera (9 years ago) was a Sony Mavica. It had its deficiencies, but it had superb performance in dim light, far better than any other camera I've seen, including my DSLR.

23 posted on 04/16/2007 8:44:52 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
"you can always remove the encryption and make a backup copy for yourself. That's legal. "

Can you provide a link to the "That's legal" part? I assume you are aware of some judicial or legislative action whereby the DMCA has been interpreted so as to permit breaking of encryption when it's for the purpose of backing up personally owned media.

24 posted on 04/16/2007 9:59:38 AM PDT by RexTheRunt (No way to delay that trouble comin' every day.....)
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To: RexTheRunt
Ok let me correct that. It used to be legal , or at least not proven to be illegal, prior to a 2004 ruling. However there is growing support for a DMCRA.
25 posted on 04/16/2007 10:46:30 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: sionnsar

A friend of mine used his AnyDVD & CloneDVD2 programs to back up his owned copy of Casino Royale.
I guess the two programs stripped the problems out of his owned DVD and the copy now plays on all the players with no problem.

I think in the process of backing up the DVDs, the problems with the disk is somehow fixed.

Seems Sony is shooting itself in the foot.


26 posted on 04/16/2007 10:57:12 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sionnsar
My ..[9 year old] Sony Mavica.. had its deficiencies, but it had superb performance in dim light, far better than any other camera I've seen, including my DSLR.

I beg to differ.

Nine years ago sensor technology by today's standards was not just primitive, it was prehistoric. The one area where the most advances have been made, other than resolution ,is low light noise, or high ISO noise. Today's cameras even compact ones are worlds better than those from back then.

Secondly, a modern compact digital camera in terms of image quality may be able to hold its own against a DSLR at most upto ISO 400 and at high shutter speeds. After that the fall is steep. Modern dslrs on the other hand like the Canon EOS 10d or later models look remarkably clean even at ISO 1600. The reason is DSLRs have larger pixels on their large sensors which produce cleaner images than the small sensor compacts. Olympus dslrs are a little worse than Canon's or Nikon's because their (4/3) sensors are smaller than the standard APS size.

27 posted on 04/16/2007 11:09:04 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: bobsatwork

I have a two year old Sharp that plays Casino Royale just fine.


28 posted on 04/16/2007 11:15:33 AM PDT by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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To: Covenantor

We just bought a Sony LCD TV. We’ve been watching all flat screened TVs in stores and we think that none come close to the quality of Sony. We’re sold on them.


29 posted on 04/16/2007 11:24:03 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Covenantor
Given that electronics compose the majority functioning components for digital camers (auto-focus, sensors, etc.) being an electronics ( read commodity ) mfr. makes little difference.

If you are talking about raw image quality, most modern digital cameras of the same class (compacts or dslrs) produce similar images, with only slight differences in color that can be adjusted.

What makes cameras good or bad is not so much how great images they make ( they all make great images), but how usable they are. Most amateurs overlook this important characteristic. A camera should be ergonomic, highly responsive, ready when you need it ...and most importantly , easy to adjust. The most important parameters people adjust most often are white balance, image resolution and ISO speed. These should NOT be buried deep inside menus, but should be located externally on easy to reach buttons. This is why pro cameras have so many buttons on the outside. Pros do not have time to fiddle around with menus when they are on location shooting something important.

30 posted on 04/16/2007 11:25:50 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: sionnsar

Take the disks back and demand a cash refund. If they give you a hard time, take it to small claims court.

I have some older Sony products that I like, but I’m buying nothing new with Sony on the label.


31 posted on 04/16/2007 11:32:08 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: twigs

You should see the JVC flatscreens. I compared JVC versus Sony 46” 1080p screens playing BluRay DVD’s and thought the JVC’s were every bit as good, if not better.


32 posted on 04/16/2007 12:35:31 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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33 posted on 04/16/2007 12:38:16 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Secondly, a modern compact digital camera in terms of image quality may be able to hold its own against a DSLR at most upto ISO 400 and at high shutter speeds. After that the fall is steep. Modern dslrs on the other hand like the Canon EOS 10d or later models look remarkably clean even at ISO 1600.

DSLR sensors use much more power than point and shoot camera sensors. But because you focus and compose on ground glass, they are not using power except at the moment of exposure.

I agree about the Canons. Even the Rebel line has excellent quality at ISO 1600.

34 posted on 04/16/2007 12:46:45 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: sionnsar
It’s already cost them a few hundred in a camera purchase here, not that they’d notice it.

They would if millions of people did the same.

35 posted on 04/16/2007 12:53:32 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: jiggyboy; Covenantor
> "PNG"? "Product Non-Grata?" "Probably No Good"?

In our household, products like that are designated thusly:

NFG
If it's a product we've already bought and paid for, that is written across the face of the unit in wide-tip black Sharpie marker.

The first time my daughter saw that, she asked what "NFG" stood for. I said, "No Good." She paused for a second, then burst out laughing.

36 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:37 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: sionnsar; supercat

Ping!

Anyone whose tagline is “Sony delenda est” needs to be on this thread.


37 posted on 04/16/2007 1:21:59 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking
"Anyone whose tagline is “Sony delenda est>/i>” needs to be on this thread."

LOL!

38 posted on 04/16/2007 4:41:58 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Still Thinking
Anyone whose tagline is “Sony delenda est” needs to be on this thread.

It's funny--I'd been sorta thinking of changing my tagline, and then Sony had to remind me why it was still applicable.

39 posted on 04/16/2007 9:15:34 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat

I hope you don’t change it, I love it! If you changed it, what would the new subject be?


40 posted on 04/17/2007 6:40:50 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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