Posted on 04/19/2007 12:30:20 PM PDT by xsrdx
The shooting spree in Virginia will trigger the usual round of calls for tighter restrictions on gun traffic. But politically, that dog likely won’t hunt, even now.
April 17, 2007 - I don’t know what I was thinking. It seemed to me that the gruesome tragedy at Virginia Tech might prompt a new wave of legislation—not just talk but legislation—to limit the sale of handguns in America. But a few calls and e-mails to people who know the politics of the issue led to a different conclusion: forget about it.
Whatever the rest of the world thinks, whatever Rosie O’Donnell thinks, whatever big city mayors, present and former, think—it remains unlikely that the murder of 32 innocents in Blacksburg will alter the basic guns-for-all equation of American life.
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Are these people stupid? the VT massacre should make MOST American’s realize that GUN CONTROL does not work....unless you know how to/and are allowed to/ CONTROL YOUR OWN GUN FREELY!
If anything, legislation is going in the opposite direction: Tennessee is passing a law allowing guns to be carried in public accomodations.
This article makes me proud to be a member of the NRA.
Cars kill more each day than Cho killed.
Cars aren’t Constitutionally protected.
Yeah, used to be. For at least the next 10 years, it's safe to say, some red-staters that attend will be "defense enabled"
When the finest minds you can put forward on this debate
can't win you ought to take a hint and just forget it.
Howie, Americans believe they should be able to defend themselves, rather than depend on the government, which clearly showed its limits in the VT case, huh? Properly understood, this tragedy should be the catalyst for a renewed push to repeal the antiselfdefense laws in place today. Shall issue concealed carry should be the law of the land - Atlantic to the Pacific. Disarming the good guys never was a good idea bud. That bad guys don’t give a rat about laws anyway. Further, it should be easier to put insane people in confinement. And yes, that will cost money, and no it won’t be pretty. Consider the alternatives Howie.
Hey Howard.
Virginia has laws to limit the sale of handguns, you can only buy one a month.
Obviously it doesn’t work.
while I must admit I loathe this weasel of mice,I’ll bet he could not even hold a .22 pistol up high enuf to aim level. Hell this anemic spew probably has to work in shifts so his glasses don’t crush his face.
My husband renews my NRA membership every year for Christmas. Smart husband. Trusting husband!
This is the author's summation and the point he lays his thesis on. It is false. Cho did break the law when he purchased his guns. He had been deemed a danger to himself and others after court ordered phychiatric evaluation and prescribed an anti-depressant. The gun seller did nothing wrong in selling him guns though as this information was not available to him through the national database. HIPPA privacy laws prevented that info, which had legal implications, from going into the database.
Fineman shot his own point in the foot.
Hey Howard try this on for size. The victims never even had the OPTION to even try to defend themselves. Your sick thinking helped kill them. How do you feel now a$$wipe.
“Virginia Tech is a Gun Free Zone...”
The school was advertised as such...and the shooter just answered the ad! He KNEW he would meet no resistance.
Cho did break the law when he purchased his guns. He had been deemed a danger to himself and others after court ordered phychiatric evaluation and prescribed an anti-depressant. The gun seller did nothing wrong in selling him guns though as this information was not available to him through the national database. HIPPA privacy laws prevented that info, which had legal implications, from going into the database.
They had the judge on TV that ordered his commitment and showed the actual forms. The checkbox “danger to others” was not checked and the judge indicated that nothing in his examination of the case suggested that the kid was a danger to others. He failed to check the box that would have gotten this kid into the database.
Aside from that does the federal form require self-disclosure? Doesn’t the form ask if you are a felon or have been committed to a mental health facility? In that case a crime was committed when he bought the gun.
You are better informed on the details than I am. I suppose that only a judge could have submitted that info to the database although Cho was deemed (as I understand it at this time) a danger to himself and others by the psychiatrist/psychologist. You are absolutely correct that he violated the law by not disclosing this info on the Fed form at the point of purchase. A private purchase would have avoided that violation or any requirement to file a form. I wouldn’t have that any other way either.
All of my gun-control friends and family are making the most effective hay with this issue. Can you explain the HAPPA thing in more detail or give a link?
Your friends shouldn't be making any hay with this. VA Tech was a gun free campus. They took a student to court last year for legally carrying with a CCL on campus and won. The VA legislature made a law (or the VA courts ruled, I don't know which) that the university could ban guns on campus. They were quite proud and happy about it. They made sure no one could defend themselves.
Ask them if they could wave a wand and make all guns in the U.S. disappear and make them illegal how many weeks would it take for the black market to bring a million guns back in? And who would have them all then? Only criminals and they would know that no one BUT criminals had them.
I don't know if that would faze them but that's what I think of asking them. There is also the issue of not hospitalizing the insane as we used to. I don't know the details of that either but it was about 30 or 40 years ago and it regarded their civil rights not to be deprived of liberty against their will. That goes hand-in-hand with the privacy laws to prevent the courts and society from protecting ourselves from lunatics.
The problem is not guns.
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