Pet food probe turns to possibility of fraud

Baltimore Sun.Com ^ | April 19, 2007 | By Jonathan D. Rockoff

[Humidston]

I couldn’t agree more... D.C. et. al. could care less about us or our pets, as long as they do their international $$$ deals and lord their power over us.

Oh, they’ll make noise over this flap but I think it’s all phony baloney. Lord only knows what else the Chinese are lacing OUR food ingredients with!

[Cold Heart]

The ethanol production scheme has sent grain prices way up.
Other feed has skyrocketed in response. Dairy farmers and others are squeezed, some of them going out of business.

In central and eastern Oregon I have heard of people releasing their horses into the wild because they could not afford to feed them (hay prices shot up in response to the grain feeds). I’ve seen some really thin beef this spring, bordering on starvation.

Grain products from China are a cheaper fill in.

[Arizona Carolyn]

Tell your husband there is a HUGE difference between raw bones and cooked bones... never, ever give cooked bones, they will shatter... raw bones will actually digest... many paople are feeding raw chicken necks, chicken wings, backs, etc, to their dogs.. what I feed raw I feed ground up with bone in it...

A lot of people with dogs like you describe do not grind, but feed whole -- some even feed turkey necks to dogs with extremely strong jaws, though the shape of a turkey neck is such that I would take it outside and wrap in a towel and hit it a few times with a hammer and then feed it..

Rabbit is another popular meat.. there's people out there who have a deal with the local police to call them when there is fresh deer road kill -- especially the people with large dogs who live in areas without wasting disease...

Chewing on these big bones occupy dogs for a long time and they actually sleep better from the exercise this chewing gives them...

[Arizona Carolyn]

That is what the partial article from the Sacramento Bee said this afternoon... also some has gotten into pig feed which is illegal since it is for “human” consumption.

[Arizona Carolyn]

You would think they would have thought about all the unintended consequences of this ethenol scam..... and with it probably rising cost of living and interest rates... thanks to all the greenies..

[Humidston]

Oooookay.... I’ll have to chew on this one (pun intended), LOL!

[Arizona Carolyn]

~LOL~

[BagCamAddict]

Thanks for the ping. I don’t have time to read the thread right now, but I thought it had been determined that they had definitely added the melamine to boost the so-called protein content? Or maybe that had just been speculated up until now. I’ve been out of touch for a few days.

[ozzymandus]

Do we buy any human food from them??

[Arizona Carolyn]

Some people are saying some chicken — and that likely chicken meal isn’t American Chicken meal... so far I haven’t seen that confirmed (but things are moving fast and it can change)....

[Arizona Carolyn]

Yes, they added to up protein to up profit.

[tabor]

Mom, I bought Natural Logic for my kitties a couple weeks ago.My two boys have done OK on it, but my little girl has trouble. First couple of days, she threw it back up. We phased it in, and are still doing so. Most of the time she seems to be tolerating the NaturalLogic if we only add a few pieces of it to her Iams. Granted, the guy at the health food store told us they will probably throw it up at first, so to be sure to phase it in slowly. Otherwise, they like it. Have you had any similar problems or has it been A-OK?

[stlnative]

Are smoked bones considered cooked? Here in the country we get lightly smoked bones and they appear nearly raw and the marrow is semi dry but moist yet and the bones are not brittle. My dogs love them and I have never had any problems feeding them to my boggies. My dogs teeth are perfectly white and in great shape due the bones I feed them. The bones keep them occupied for hours on end. I have been doing it for years without any problems. Of course my dogs are small (11# and 28#) but I never give them small ones... they are usually at least 5" long and probably 1 1/2" across in thickness. It takes them a while to do some major damage to them (they go after the marrow) and usually throw whats left of them away after 2 or 3 days. My little 11 pounder (90% MinPin / 10% Hole Digging Rat Terrorist) has no problem carrying around these big bones. (big for her of course)
The 11# Terrorist


and her 28# sidekick

[WestVirginiaRebel]

The plot thickens...and they didn’t think anybody would find out???

[fortheDeclaration]

Time to sue China.

Time to cut trade with China.

[cherry]

I agree with your sentiment....animals are animals, humans, human....

If we ever relinquish our food production to China or other countries, we are or will be in dire straights....food production is about the only industry we have left here in the States.....

[Dr. Scarpetta]

bump

[RottiBiz]

I feed my dog Abady kibble for dogs. It is very expensive, for a Rottweiler who eats a lot, but they also make kibble for cats, who eat very little making the cost reasonable.

The food is very pure — no additives.

http://www.animaltreats.com/at_abady_prods.html

You can read about the company here:

http://therobertabadydogfoodcoltd.com/index.html

[Dr. Scarpetta]

But FDA Commissioner Andrew C. von Eschenbach told the senator that investigators haven't been able to make the trip because they cannot get visas from the Chinese government. FDA officials did not respond to requests for comment.

Outrageous....

[RottiBiz]

P.S. Abady also makes a variety of canned food for cats.