Posted on 04/20/2007 2:46:06 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
John / Billybob
Fifty people were present when one customer pulled a gun and started shooting. Nine shots were fired, the last two going into the shooter, from another customer who was carrying a weapon. No one was killed.
Now, thats gun control.
SWEET
This is the way the whole country was, when I was born (and I’m not yet 50 years old). So sad....
I have long appreciated your commentaries, and this is definitely being saved for future reference, mate! Great one!
—Harrisburg Area Community College — Pa.
I guess it’s true what they say about Pa. — Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between.
<< there never has been, and never will be, a shooting like the one this week at Virginia Tech. There are plenty of guns in western Carolina. There are two universities and a college, where potential victims like those at Tech, can be found by the thousands. >>
With all due respect John, I challenge you to walk into a typical 9 am college class in Cullowhee or Boone, and find out if any of the students sitting there in class just happen to be packing at that moment in time.
I submit that chances are low anyone is.
BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! She's such a loser.
BTTT for some COMMON SENSE!!!!!
We do a lot of camping very near there, and I have seen pickups on campus with rifles in the rear window racks. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody in class had something in their backpack.
She has her rifle in my gun rack but if she gets an apartment she’ll take it with her - and she knows how to use it.
21st Birthday - a hideout .38? Hmmmm, time to start “window shopping.”
I bet the chances are greater today that they are packing than they were last week at this time.
You know, for a hideout gun I might prefer a PPK in .380. Most concealable pistol (in a reasonable caliber) that I have, and it’s DA with a hammer block so you don’t have to worry so much about a whoops or leaving it hammer down on an empty chamber.
You said — “I live in western North Carolina, an area of the country in which there never has been, and never will be, a shooting like the one this week at Virginia Tech. There are plenty of guns in western Carolina. There are two universities and a college, where potential victims like those at Tech, can be found by the thousands.
But, we have a different culture, here. To my experience, more than half of all households in Carolina own multiple guns. More than a quarter of all the local trucks and vans on our highways are carrying guns, mostly handguns. And the people in Carolina who own those guns know exactly how to use them.”
Well, as I understand it, they also know how to handle and use guns in Virginia, too. I don’t think there’s a shortage of the same kind of people there, and I don’t think they are ignorant about them. [I’m not from Virginia, by the way...]
I looked carefully at your article, and unless I missed it — I *do not see* where you have addressed the issue of having “guns on campus” at these universities in North Carolina.
Are you saying that on your universities that people *are able* to have their guns in the classrooms and in the dorms, and thus, once the shooter got inside those classrooms, or a dorm building, that someone there would (or could) have taken him out? That’s what I would like to know...
Regards,
Star Traveler
If so, then here’s something for you —
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1820535/posts
And *this one* is an absolute “keeper” below (copy it...) —
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTIwYzMyZmQ1YzQ1MDNmZTMyYzQ1Y2U3YTU4YzNmNGE
Regards,
Star Traveler
What I do know is that the roads past and through all those campuses are filled with vehicles carrying CB radios and guns. And the people in those vehicles, whether police and fire officials or not, would not hesitate to step in with guns drawn, if need be.
John / Billybob
John / Billybob
You said — Those bans of course apply only to those who choose to obey that law.
Of course, that’s true. But, in all the cases where we’ve heard about these kinds of shootings, it hasn’t come out with a “good ending” where someone decided that they were not going to obey the ban. In about all the cases, it turns out that the legal and legitimate gun owner has obeyed the law. And *thus* — that’s the very problem. Either you’re going to start a movement which say, “Hell no, we won’t obey!” — or — you’re going to have to get the laws change.
And, I don’t think the “disobey the law” route is going to work very well for the gun owners, here.
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But, at Virginia Tech there were all sorts of others who were very willing to “rush in” and take care of the situation. As you know (and all other who have read), it was all over by the time anyone from outside could “rush in”. So, that really doesn’t do much good.
In fact, one of the spokesperson for changing the laws in that regard is a woman whose parents were killed in a Luby’s restaurant (I believe in Texas). She *did have* a gun, but she obeyed the law and left the gun out in the vehicle. The problem was, even though the vehicle was just right out in the parking lot — she couldn’t get to it and back again — before her parents were both dead.
And so, that’s the *nitty gritty* of the situation here...
Regards,
Star Traveler
As a fellow Western NC resident I can confirm your assumptions about guns in the home. In fact I just went to the range yesterday and worked out with my .22 for warmup and .45 for fun.
My daughter went to Appalachian. She’s coming over for dinner Sunday and I sure intend to ask her if she knew of any guns on campus when she was in attendance 4 years ago. She’s a pretty good pistol shot by the way.
John,
Your estimates are way off, probably based on old data. We’ve moved out of NC and are living in Virginia now.
Good article - well said!
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