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Worker fired after posting picture of Jesus (in his cubicle)
WND ^ | April 21, 2007

Posted on 04/21/2007 5:58:54 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Wormwood
His only recourse would be to file a complaint with the EEOC. In that event, it will still do him little good. It is very much impossible to prove intent in a case like this. The company issued the termination on the grounds of insubordination.

The individual should have complied with the action of his supervisors, continued to do his job without the pictures and filed a formal discrimination complaint with the EEOC.
Instead, he put the picture back up and argued with management.

He has no case what so ever, and should learn this lesson if he hopes to be employed in the future.

41 posted on 04/21/2007 6:59:51 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Vermont Lt
Lots of people will believe everything they read. Don’;t believe this. There is probably lots more to this, and you will never hear it.

This preface should be mandatory in all WorldNetDaily threads.

42 posted on 04/21/2007 7:00:33 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: NYer; Gumdrop; trustandhope; MarkBsnr; pblax8; oakcon; newbie 10-21-00; Bloc8406; Ransomed; ...
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Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

43 posted on 04/21/2007 7:03:54 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: SoldierMedic
To be crucified is to be tortured. If your co-worker had up pictures of Muslims celebrating the death of Imam Hussein, how would you react?

Wow. I am not even sure how to respond to such an idiotic analogy.

44 posted on 04/21/2007 7:06:46 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Wormwood

World NUT Daily seems more concerned with selling this or that book, or some other related product.

They lost all credibility with me after the war on terror started. few of their headlines have any truth in them.


45 posted on 04/21/2007 7:07:24 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: NYer

In what country did this happen?


46 posted on 04/21/2007 7:14:27 AM PDT by montag813
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Cha Ching


47 posted on 04/21/2007 7:16:46 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Junior
Correlation != Causation.

Too strong a statement. Correlation need not equal causation; but it is not that it uniformly DOES NOT equal causation.

Cheers!

48 posted on 04/21/2007 7:18:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Wormwood
"Burying the lead"

Bingo.

We can't have fun in the office with that "born again" loser over there always complaining. Find a way to get rid of him.

49 posted on 04/21/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: eleni121

>>First Amendment?

I’ve heard public service announcements for the Rutherford
Institute talking about the case of a little boy who was denied permission to pass around gifts/candies
with a message about Easter on them to his classmates.
The court ruled for the school board but I believed it
was appealed to the Supreme Court

details:

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20040108/6970_Kindergartner_Prohibited_for_Distributing_Gifts_with_Christian_Message.htm

>>According to CNS news, a kindergartener, who was prohibited from passing out religious items in class, is challenging a ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit against the school policy, calling it religious discrimination.

>>The Rutherford Institute, a civil liberties organization committed to defending constitutional and human rights, is representing Dana Walz and her son Daniel. They are waiting for the Supreme Court to take their case.
The institute attorneys, in requesting a review of the case by the Supreme Court, said the school district’s actions and policies discriminate against Daniel’s speech on the basis of its religious viewpoint, constitute hostility toward and denigration of religion in violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments, and violate a New Jersey law against discrimination

more details; am not sure how the case ultimately came out

http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/press_release.asp?article_id=471

>>In April 1998, during the Easter-Passover season, Daniel and his pre-kindergarten classmates attended a holiday party at school. Some children brought in small gifts to hand out during the party. Daniel handed out pencils that stated “Jesus loves the little children.” On seeing the pencils, Daniel’s teacher confiscated them from the children. Daniel’s mother, Dana Walz, who was present in the classroom, immediately brought the matter to the attention of the school’s principal. However, the principal, assistant superintendent and superintendent denied Daniel’s request to distribute the pencils. Walz was then told that Daniel could only hand out pencils outside the classroom. In December 1998, Daniel and his kindergarten classmates had a Christmas-Hanukkah party at school. Before the party, Walz contacted the school’s attorney to obtain permission for Daniel to distribute candy canes with the story “The Candy Maker’s Witness” attached to them. She was informed that Daniel could do so only outside the classroom. However, Daniel’s classmates were permitted to hand out non-religious gifts during the party.


50 posted on 04/21/2007 7:23:28 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Vermont Lt

Thanks for your astute post, the one that really brought clarity to this issue

Most companies do not want to fire someone. It takes time and a lot of money to hire and then train a new employee, then months more before he or she is productive enough to start really contributing in a way that helps the company’s bottom line. They usually cut employees a lot of slack because they don’t want to deal with EEOC complaints and tie their attorneys up. So when someone gets fired and claims discrimination, it’s possible that management was stupid but it’s also possible that the employee screwed up.

We had a guy in our office who was hired to work at a desk right by the entrance. He started putting up pictures of naked women at his desk. There were photos, cartoons cut from Playboy, etc. He was told to take the pictures down and he started with a lot of attitude. The same attitude affected his work. When he was fired he screamed discrimination on grounds that he was a black man. But it was the attitude that got him fired, not the pictures and not his race or sex.

This is typical of the problem. If the employee is a team player and shows her really wants to be working for the company and do his best, he’s not going to argue. When he argues he’s showing that he’s not a team player, he’s a management headache.


51 posted on 04/21/2007 7:35:43 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: NYer
In his desk you may find a booklet on company rules. One would be Do not take anything that is not yours

Sound familiar?

52 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:32 AM PDT by ditto h
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To: SoldierMedic
I don’t have a huge Catholic heritage, and personally, I’m not catholic. But still, I do not have an ax to grind, as you claim I do.

Since you seem to have been so confused by my earlier post that you chose to respond to the subtext rather than the main point, let me restate it without the part that seemed to cause you trouble:

"Well, a simple crucifix or photo thereof would meet your stated definition of 'offensive'."

Response?
53 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:46 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Always Right
Your thinking about agnostics.

Atheist are as passionate about their beliefs just like Christians, Islamist, Orthodox Jews etc... are.

54 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:50 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi; NYer

“If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.”
-—G. K. Chesterton

;-o)


55 posted on 04/21/2007 7:56:52 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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To: beezdotcom
If it was something simple: No, that wouldn't offend me. However, I have seen depictions which have offended me deeply. Am I saying that all depictions should be banned? Absolutely not! But there are pictures out there that are extremely graphic, and I would feel uncomfortable seeing while at work.


56 posted on 04/21/2007 7:58:18 AM PDT by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007)
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To: NYer

Time for a lawsuit.


57 posted on 04/21/2007 8:00:59 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: NYer

The up side to this story is that when he files a lawsuit against Barclays, he will win. Plaintiffs always win these cases, either on summary judgment, at trial or on appeal if the trial court rules for the company. In the end, he will be much better off financially.


58 posted on 04/21/2007 8:03:44 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Mmmike

I think it’s worse to be surrounded by hypocrites who look at you and imagine that you see right through them. The hypocrites would be the pseudo-religious folks who see their reality every time they look at you. The non-religious are often much easier to get along with.


60 posted on 04/21/2007 8:26:15 AM PDT by petitfour
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