Tillman's brother blasts military

Yahoo! News ^ | 04/24/2007 | SCOTT LINDLAW and ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writers

[SevenMinusOne]

I’m not sure I get it. Sure, at first they announced merely that he was killed in action. But didn’t it come out within a couple of weeks that it had in fact been friendy fire?

Wouldn’t there have be an investigation before an official determination of fratricide was announced?

So what?

Exactly right on the whole - The bottom line is a few details could have been done differently (his Bro should have been told earlier of the likelihood of what happened).

But the bottom line is Ranger Pat Tillman was a hell of a man who died on this shield while taking the fight to the enemy. He was leading from the front. God bless the man.

Disgusting what those on the left are now doing.....And how they are using his death to indirectly help those enemies that Ranger Tillman was taking the fight to when he died.

[SevenMinusOne]

Preliminary reports of persons on the scene did not indicate friendly fire.

This is not true. Those on the scene knew within minutes after this engagement what happened.

With that said....what should not be forgotten and what the left and MSM don't want to point out....is that Ranger Pat Tillman was a hell of a man who died on this shield while taking the fight to the enemy. He was leading from the front when he fell. There was an engagement with the enemy in those Mtns....and Ranger Tillman was going to the sound of gunfire when he was killed.

God Bless the man.

Furthermore it is disgusting what those on the left are now doing.....And how they are using his death to indirectly help those enemies that Ranger Tillman was taking the fight to when he died.

The Army made a few mistakes in how they handled this....but there was no "cover-up"....Those suggestions are simply foolishness....and a tool to try and further hurt the current war effort. Disgusting.

[Radix]

"I am truly surprised that the Army did this. "

This is probably something that should not be surprising when one considers the nature of the Pinheads who work in certain Army occupations.

I do not really understand the lashing out by The Tillman family over this matter though.

If it were not friendly fire, would he be any less dead?

As for Private Lynch, this is a really bad move on her part.

I wonder if she will now testify about how many times she was raped while a POW. This is an incredibly ill advised move on her part.

[berstbubble]

“Either his brother needs to be educated regarding combat (including,unfortunately,the fact that “friendly fire” incidents *do* happen) or else he needs to be bi*chslapped for being a worthless punk.”
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The brother who you refer to as a punk who needs to be educated concerning combat is the brother who volunteered for the Rangers before Pat did which inspired Pat to give up millions in the NFL and follow his brother into the service. The brother was on the ground in Afghanistan when this tragedy happened. Just out of curiosity- how close to the battle were you?

[Gay State Conservative]

Just out of curiosity- how close to the battle were you?

Depending on your directional orientation (looking east or west) the closest I've ever been to a battle (while an "employee" of the Department of the Army) was Fort Knox,KY or Fort Dix,NJ...and that was a long time ago.

The brother is a punk regardless of his military record.In fact,he,even better than I,should be aware that "friendly fire" incidents happen in modern warfare.

He is every bit as much a punk as are that mental defectives Sheehan and Murtha.

Feel free to disagree if you wish.

[LightBeam]

From my research, it appears that both the Tillman brothers apparently harbored and expressed secular progressivist ideas and seditious thoughts opposing our war effort in Iraq...

So many people forget this. Pat Tillman was, and his family currently ARE secular progressives. Nobody around here should be surprised at his family's behavior. They're just another example of American secularism.

We can still honor Pat for giving up his NFL career to join the Army, but we can be reasonably sure that he didn't do it with the expectation that he would be killed and sent off into "oblivion" or whatever it is that atheists believe.

Unless he accepted Christ before his death, I would say this situation is utterly tragic all the way around.

[Aikonaa]

I am truly surprised that the Army did this.

You are quite naive to take anything coming from the military PR people at face value. Tillman was not the only case, the Jessica Lynch story was also mostly made up.

[Aikonaa]

Yawn. You and your buddy should head back to DU or wherever you came from.

[norton]

"Don’t know what Pat would do. We will never know. I think the family is just upset because of the way they were lied to about the death. I am truly surprised that the Army did this. I typically think they are on the up and up on all information. The Army screwed up on this one."

1. The family is upset because, to cop a phrase from a favorite movie, their rice bowl was broken.
2. Friendly fire deaths are a part of war...my mother lived her entire life not understanding that her brother quite possibly died from allied artillery fire.
3. No body actually 'knows' what took place immediately after any engagement...everybody involved has their own report, their own firm belief, and their own skin to cover: Initial reports are virtually useless!
4. Tillman's team was apparently out in front, not behind the FEBA; operating as they were supposed to be operating but not at a precise assigned location/time/situation. Just a frequency error or a hasty briefing would leave supporting fire and conventional troops in the dark regarding who they'd contacted.
5. In this instance the government/Army/command DID come out to admit they had been wrong...pretty novel if you've ever been there.

6. In the related girl soldier testimony (Jessica Tandy?) I'd stake the farm that we have the media to blame.

IIRC, the official video showed a fairly stress free insertion, grab, extraction...no one outside the Iraqi Army and the NG troops that stumbled into an ambush had the slightest idea of what had taken place or what the lady's condition was before someone tipped the good guys off.

The 'emptied her weapon' crap didn't come from any PIO I heard quoted.

In today's FOX ALERT/CNN bias environment it is really wise to discount the initial reporting, just s*#t can it, because it is all supposition and rumor put forth to fill time on the screen...facts might come later but they do not carry the same emotional value.

[Antoninus]

Of course. I have no truck with your advocacy of moral relativism.

Is it immoral to tell a lie that saves your countrymen's lives and protects the nation? If so, I guess you think that the CIA should be shut down immediately.

[Let's Roll]

And frankly, I think it is far kinder to the family NOT to let them know that their loved one was killed by friendly fire. And, obviously, in order to do that, no one can know it.

These people are out to lynch the WH - probably being coached by Sin-Dee.

[steve-b]

Oh, puh-leeze. The only thing being “protected” by this cover-up is some bureaucrat’s rear end.

[LightBeam]

You and your buddy should head back to DU or wherever you came from.

Right. Because defending the Gospel and exposing the truth about secualrism is the hallmark of liberal trolls. /s