Posted on 04/25/2007 12:52:41 PM PDT by TBP
Good to know where you stand, spunkets.
What specifically is the treatment alleged? If the Col is complaining through his atty's, that he was yelled at and had things thrown at him, he is a disgrace.
The Corps alleges that the Col essentially failed to know what the hell went on. It was his duty to know what went on. The Col offered nothing, but excuses for his failure to know what went on. Now his atty's are whinning that he was yelled at and "had things thrown at him". NICS investigators and Jags aren't running this show the USMC was and still is.
"They appeared to just have been trying to force some “testimony” to fit their preconceived ideas."
Ridiculous.
"Our Marines do deserve more respect than insurgents/terrorists or whatever we’re calling the enemy this week. They are Americans."
Irrelevant. The matter involves the Marine Corp's and the DOD's demands that the commander's intent is carried out w/o violating the rules of engagment, or the Laws of War. The Corps expects it's battalion commanders to know what the hell's going on and stay on top of things. They expect that when reasonable evidence arises that a problem exists, that the situation be investigated and the matter documented to the fulleest extent. The Col failed to do that.
No it wouldn't be. The Col's also not a 19 y/o boy.
You don't know where I stand.
You seem to like that word, “Ridiculous” on this thread. If I remember correctly from some previous postings by you, the word of the day was “Whatever”.
Part of my posting said, “Our Marines do deserve more respect than insurgents/terrorists or whatever we’re calling the enemy this week. They are Americans.”
Your answer was, “Irrelevant”. Hmmmm. What’s your beef with all of this? Please feel free to make your point and state your case. I’m curious what it is.
I just heard the other shoe drop. (or boot which ever you like)
Marines are Marines, and the Marines are handling this matter. The Marines are not being tortured, nor is any of this unjust. The accusations are based on the actions taken, the reults, and testimony of Marine’s. Everything else is irrelevant. I find the claims that these Marine’s were tortured highly amusing, especially the Col’s atty’s claim that he was yelled at, and “had things thrown at him”. The idea that any of the Marines were denied water and head access is ridiculous.
I am the same way!
I don't like the idea that anyone gets any benefit, in accusing our military of anything wrong...........without absolute proof.
Then again....I'm not sure I would believe it then either.
To: freema "Making light of the way men -who put their lives and limbs on the line for us- are treated by their country is piss poor."
Ridiculous. 39 posted on 04/25/2007 6:14:09 PM EDT by spunkets
If you would like to clarify your stance, if you didn't mean for your remarks to come off as such, by all means, please clarify.
Well I have to agree with one part of your statement, “Marines are Marines,”.
The Marines never claimed they were tortured, a poster made a statement about being tortured. I disagree with “nor is any of this unjust” part of your statement. We may just have different opinions on that matter. That’s fine.
I find words like “amusing”, “irrelevant”, and “ridiculous” in matters relating to the defense of Marines who face possible life in prison for trying to do their jobs in Haditha somewhat flippant. But, that’s just me. They fought for us, my duty as an American is to stand up for them. Even if it’s fairly inconsequential on a FR thread.
I appreciate you making your case. Thankyou.
The claims that any of the Marines involved were mistreated is ridiculous. See #47, this matter is being handled by the Corps.
Apparently you missed the part about NCIS, a civilian agency.
I hope they defecated on the desk!
The NCIS is "the primary law enforcement and counterintelligence arm of the United States Department of the Navy." do you think their investigators and forensic specialists are somehow dishonorable, or a disgrace to the Navy, the Corps, or the US?
Don't forget the explosion aboard the USS IOWA . NIS, (the same clowns as NCIS), tried to blame it on a sailor, Clayton Hartwig. They said he was a jilted homosexual and deliberately killed himself along with 46 other crew members.
They were full of it then and are full of it now.
Hartwig's sister, Kathy Kubicina, had to fight the Navy to clear her brother's name.
This is an idea of the f***wads that the Marines are up against.
No, I think the USMC is a dishonorable disgrace. /sarc
—LOL! Are you saying they tortured the Col?—
How? Did they call him a Macaca?
Thanks for the ping.
I would say an 18-hr interrogation with no foor or head breaks was torture. Maybe you don’t think so, or maybe you think all US servicemen should be treated that way. You may think it’s funny, but that just proves what you are.
They forced this the Col?
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