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The disarming of America (mega-barf, fascism is here)
The Toledo Blade ^ | 4-95-07 | Dan Simpson

Posted on 04/27/2007 3:47:48 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy

Now, how would one disarm the American population? First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison per weapon to possess a firearm......

The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty......

Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm. Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across the country at the same time. But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. If there were, those carrying them would be subject to quick confiscation and prosecution. On the streets it would be a question of stop-and-search of anyone, even grandma with her walker, with the same penalties for "carrying."

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I own 5 guns. Come and take them, Dan.

Simpson appears to be quite serious, or maybe he is just trying to illustrate what it would take to actually "ban guns" as many liberals and other control freaks so blithely demand. Even the most intrusive search could not find all the guns or ammunition and many of those that were not found would be used against the totalitarian authorities and media shills who had instigated the inquisition in the first place.

1 posted on 04/27/2007 3:47:50 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy
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To: atomic conspiracy

oh please they could take them all tomorrow

the mexicans will start packing ak47 along their cocaine shipments

it would just ad their business offerings by including highly price and fully automatic weapon systems


2 posted on 04/27/2007 3:49:54 AM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: atomic conspiracy

He’s a retired diplomat...and a moron.


3 posted on 04/27/2007 3:50:23 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: atomic conspiracy; All
Special squads?

Nomenclature has already been used...

S.S.

4 posted on 04/27/2007 3:50:47 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: atomic conspiracy
But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. large numbers of dead would be gun confiscators.

Come try it at my house Danny boy.

But if it ever comes to this, I'll try very hard not to harm some poor flatfoot cop. I plan to get to people like Danny boy here who thought this crap up.

L

5 posted on 04/27/2007 3:52:49 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

This guy is high on crack or meth. This is pure fantasy because he fails to account for how many law enforcemnt officers would actually do this and how many would be killed trying. He also fails to mention how they would address taking guns from protected classes of people.....ie everyone except white men. Finally he does not address how we would get to that situation in the first place, how the Congress, state legislatures or courts would allow such a thing to happen.

I have a better idea. Take his whole article and delete the word “gun” and insert the word “liberal” and now you have a good cause and millions ready to participate in the round up.


6 posted on 04/27/2007 3:54:20 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Rest of the Story, My bad that this didnt print with the first part.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

I’ve heard more credible utopian schemes from drunks in bars.


7 posted on 04/27/2007 3:58:16 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

delete the word “gun” and insert the word “liberal”

I agree, when do we start rounding them up?


8 posted on 04/27/2007 3:59:40 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Free speech for thee, but not for me?)
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To: atomic conspiracy
The "gun lobby" would no doubt try to head off in the courts the new laws and the actions to implement them. They might succeed in doing so, although the new approach would undoubtedly prompt new, vigorous debate on the subject.

Vigorous debate... LOL .... yeah ... I'd call that vigorous.... kind of like the vigorous debate we had with Germany and Japan during the 40's.

9 posted on 04/27/2007 3:59:45 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell

I tried to read this but it was too stupid and boring.


10 posted on 04/27/2007 4:01:44 AM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: atomic conspiracy
Contact for Tom Walton, Vice President/Opinion

twalton@theblade.com
11 posted on 04/27/2007 4:04:34 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Lurker

All this debate recently caused me to go out and buy more “high cap mags” for me Glock.

What a disaster this would be if someone ever tried to follow through on something like what is being described.


12 posted on 04/27/2007 4:04:50 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: atomic conspiracy
I own 5 guns. Come and take them, Dan.

Dan boy is not only stupid he's crushingly ignorant as well. Apparently he never heard of the Warsaw ghetto, and how a few armed jews held off the Nazi army for months. Although there are plenty of bedwetters in NY and Ma who would go along with it I suspect police, and their bureaucratting and political master would start dying in large quantities in the rest of the country if this nonsense started.

Further, I'm sure there are patriots out there making a list similar to the Koko's of "people who won't be missed" for when the stuff hits the fan. I'd guess that this jerk just got added to a couple of lists.

13 posted on 04/27/2007 4:05:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Finally he does not address how we would get to that situation in the first place, how the Congress, state legislatures or courts would allow such a thing to happen.

I don't want to give them any ideas, so I hope they aren't listening: But, if I was out to confiscate guns, I'd start by selecting activist judges and legislating from the bench, at all court levels. I'd also try to get huge blocks of voters to keep me and my gun-grabbing buddies in power - like unions, like those that bow to the great religions (aka, Global Warming god, PBUH). And then, I'd just ignore chunks of the Constitution as well as amendments to the Constitution.

I guess that's how I'd go about it, but that's just me...

14 posted on 04/27/2007 4:08:15 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: Lurker
I'll try very hard not to harm some poor flatfoot cop. I plan to get to people like Danny boy here who thought this

I on the other hand will try very hard to end anyone who would take part in this from the JBT's and their bosses to the media covering it to filth like Simpson. Germany lost the Battle of Britain because it switched from tactical targets - airfields - to strategic targets - London.

15 posted on 04/27/2007 4:10:57 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building.

I guess this guy has never heard of the 4th Amendment.

16 posted on 04/27/2007 4:11:13 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Recon Dad
If Danny boys friends ever tried this in Kentucky, South Carolina, or Montana the undertaking business would enjoy a boom not seen since the days of the Black Plague.

L

17 posted on 04/27/2007 4:11:41 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
arsenal staff would take at least a quick look at each hunter to try to affirm that he was not obviously unhinged

Looks like Dan won't be doing any hunting. The old second ammendment is all about hunting angle, you have to wonder how many americans have no clue as to why we have a "right to mkeep and bear arms".

18 posted on 04/27/2007 4:12:22 AM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Finally he does not address how we would get to that situation in the first place, how the Congress, state legislatures or courts would allow such a thing to happen.

They did it in NOLA and they did it in Montgomery Country during the DC Sniper fiasco.

19 posted on 04/27/2007 4:16:24 AM PDT by angkor
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To: atomic conspiracy

Checking for Scrappleface or Onion headline...you mean this is SERIOUS?


20 posted on 04/27/2007 4:16:29 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: atomic conspiracy
This idiot’s plan would result in the Second American Revolution.
21 posted on 04/27/2007 4:16:45 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: atomic conspiracy

dan simpson is openly trying to foment revolution by crushing OUR Constitutional Rights. I guess these libs all want to cause another Civil War... Come try to take my guns danny boy!

LLS


22 posted on 04/27/2007 4:16:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: from occupied ga

You’d probably be surprised by the number of people in MA, even Democrats, who are armed and would fight this silly plan.


23 posted on 04/27/2007 4:21:39 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: atomic conspiracy

As a Federal Agent there is no way in hell that I would enforce such tyranny.


24 posted on 04/27/2007 4:27:44 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Beckwith
"This idiot’s plan would result in the Second American Revolution."

Or maybe a second Civil War...gun-grabbers Vs. gun owners...:-)

25 posted on 04/27/2007 4:31:33 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: metesky
You’d probably be surprised by the number of people in MA, even Democrats, who are armed and would fight this silly plan.

..........And who would exact a terrible revenge on the State.

26 posted on 04/27/2007 4:31:52 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

In a strange way I would welcome this law. Cuts through all of the BS

I’m getting tired of the ‘dance’. Come try to take mine/ours and let’s see whose is the last side standing!


27 posted on 04/27/2007 4:32:33 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
The most telling thing in his article is at the bottom

Dan Simpson, a retired diplomat, is a member of the editorial boards of The Blade and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

He is undoubtedly typical of his fellow members of the editorial board. This gives you a direct view into the mindset of media on gun owners and our rights. He and his accomplices are ready to unleash a new holocaust with gun owners as the victims. He just proves what I've been saying about anti-gunners for years. They do not listen to logic. You cannot reason with them. You cannot appease them short of total confiscation. They don't care about rights. They have no respect for our wishes - they only care about imposing their warped ideas on us. They never rest. They never change. There are only three possible outcomes

  1. They have their JBTs kill us
  2. We surrender our firearms and become the serfs that they want us to be
  3. We kill their JBTS and them.

28 posted on 04/27/2007 4:33:05 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: atomic conspiracy
The "retired Ambassador" is not only an enemy of Americans at home, he also toes the line on Leftist foreign policy by championing the positions of all our enemies abroad. Here's just two examples (of many found by an online search):

How much army does America want and need?

"America does have other uses for its armed forces. It is important to remember that when the National Guards of Louisiana and other Southern states were needed in the United States to respond to the Katrina disaster, many of them were in Iraq instead. The Reserves are just that - reserves, not permanently deployed forces. Their tours in Iraq get longer and the breaks between them shorter. The National Guard are national guards, not people to be used in overseas wars like Iraq."
- - clip - -
"Is it not the case that America has better uses for its resources - its people and its money - than sending more troops to Iraq to fight and die? If it does not, what exactly have we become?"

[ Better our military be used for everything but fighting our enemies ]

Dan Simpson: Double standards at the nuclear club

"India, Israel and Pakistan get a pass on their nukes, while Iran and North Korea are pariahs"
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"The only logic that would explain the contradictions is that the United States needs India, Pakistan and Israel, while Iran and North Korea conveniently fill the role of Bush administration enemies du jour. Funny way to run a railroad, particularly when the subject is responsible control of nuclear weapons."

[ Might as well let two avowed American enemies get the bomb, since we couldn't/wouldn't stop our friends from getting it. ]

29 posted on 04/27/2007 4:33:16 AM PDT by drpix
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To: USNBandit

Hey - If he wants to trample one Amendment why not a few more? After all, it’s for the children.


30 posted on 04/27/2007 4:36:47 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Dan is advocating Nazi tactics where specific groups of people are demonized, rounded up and thrown in prison. Although people in certain areas would meekly submit, such as shown in New Orleans, I doubt that attitude would carry over to other areas of the country.

Dan needs to be rounded up and thrown in prison.


31 posted on 04/27/2007 4:39:09 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50 coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: atomic conspiracy
But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms.

No, there will be piles of body bags.

32 posted on 04/27/2007 4:39:10 AM PDT by Inquisitive1
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To: atomic conspiracy

Holy f&*#ing 1984 batman.


33 posted on 04/27/2007 4:40:39 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Lurker

I question whether they could find enough law enforcement or military personnel willing to carry out such a program on a broad scale. They’d have to enlist proto-fascists like the more psychotic and violent DUmmies to get it done.

I cited NOLA and the DC Sniper examples above (where firearms were indeed seized in clear violation of Constitutional rights), but those were limited in scope and were shut down pretty quickly.

In NOLA, they got Granny’s 38 revolover, but even that was an embarrassing televised struggle with a 75-year old woman, and they never quite made it to a showdown with the seriously armed homeowner defense groups that sprung up all around the city. I think the results in those neigborhoods might have been less successful than in Granny’s kitchen.

So in the end who can imagine Dan Simpson and his leftist DUmmie ilk showing up at their doorstep in full battle SWAT rattle with Code Pink and PETA T-shirts underneath, pressing people at gunpoint to submit to an unwarranted search and seizure of their legal firearms? That dog don’t hunt.


34 posted on 04/27/2007 4:41:57 AM PDT by angkor
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To: metesky
You’d probably be surprised by the number of people in MA, even Democrats, who are armed and would fight this silly plan.

I would be surprised big time if a vast majority in NYC or Boston didn't think this was a great idea. I was at a patriots day celebration in Concord in '96 or '97 (forgot exactly when) and there was a display of little die cast or maybe plastic toy muskets (about 3 inches long) in a store I was in and a little boy asked his mother for one. Not only did she not buy him one, but gave him a really nasty dressing down to the effect that guns were bad and he should never touch one.

As I remember there was an anti-gun billboard at the end of the Mass pike just as you came into Boston. I remember thinking how far these people have degenerated since 1776.

35 posted on 04/27/2007 4:42:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Don’t worry. This will never happen in our lifetime or our children’s lifetime. In our Grandchildren’s? Perhaps, depends on if our country tilts leftward.


36 posted on 04/27/2007 4:42:49 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: atomic conspiracy

Sig Hiel, Danny Boy. You are either totally ignorant of history, insane, evil, or a combination of the above.


37 posted on 04/27/2007 4:43:14 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: angkor
I question whether they could find enough law enforcement

You bet they could.

38 posted on 04/27/2007 4:43:38 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Can I count on DiFi and Shmucky coming for mine? Bring it on!


39 posted on 04/27/2007 4:43:48 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: backhoe
Special squads?

Nomenclature has already been used...

S.S.

That was the first thing I thought of as well.

40 posted on 04/27/2007 4:44:00 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: Abundy

say no more.....
So it works just like the immigration policy
They have done such a great job so far.


41 posted on 04/27/2007 4:47:57 AM PDT by colonialhk (Power and Money,the new mantra of the left!)
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To: USNBandit
I guess this guy has never heard of the 4th Amendment.

Once the 2nd is gone, so go the rest.

42 posted on 04/27/2007 4:50:51 AM PDT by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: Ajnin
As a Federal Agent there is no way in hell that I would enforce such tyranny.

Thanks Ajnin for pointing that out.

When I go to the NRA firing range in Fairfax, there are always plenty of LEOs and federal agents practicing there. Several of the NRA CCH (and other) instructors are active police officers.

It seems improbable to me that any tyrant could find enough LEOs and/or military personnel to execute such an egregiously unconstitutional program. And it seems preposterous that it would work in towns and cities with large military populations.

43 posted on 04/27/2007 4:51:57 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Your idea sounds a whole lot better to me. Shaking my head again...


44 posted on 04/27/2007 4:52:48 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: from occupied ga

The interesting thing about the liberals’ Utopian Dream is that they would be required to force it on the sane people at the point of a gun. How ironic.


45 posted on 04/27/2007 4:53:04 AM PDT by shezza (WWRD?)
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To: atomic conspiracy
How many houses, businesses, garages, barns and buildings are there in The United States?

Are you going to forcibly and thoroughly search every single one? If you don’t, the last guy with a gun is going to be the ruler. Why not take guns away from cops too?

Then we could just sit around and wait for the invaders to arrive.

Is this guy a total idiot or what?

I don’t think he’s read John Lott’s book “More Guns, Less Crime” about how guns are used defensively every day to STOP crime to prevent killings, rape, assaults, robbery, etc.

Of course, Rosie and “special celebrities” could keep their guns. Might even let Sean Penn keep his boat and shotgun. I’d feel much safer if Sean was looking out for me. S/O

46 posted on 04/27/2007 4:54:55 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: angkor
I question whether they could find enough law enforcement or military personnel willing to carry out such a program on a broad scale.

They'd find a few. A few years back some kids were shooting their dads pellet rifle in their back yard when one came through my window and nailed me just above the liver.

I called the cops, that's another story in itself, but when the boys in blue finally actually entered my house the Sgt in charge looked at my gun safe and said "I'd take everyone of these right now if I could."

I told him that's just what he'd have to do because I sure as hell wouldn't just give them to him.

The beat guys were alright about it. Once I calmed down a couple of them told me they thought he was an asshole, too.

He retired from the force soon after that and became a divorce lawyer. Go figure.

But I have a feeling the ones who would be all gung ho would see their ranks depleted pretty quickly. Line cops would lose their enthusiasm after that.

L

47 posted on 04/27/2007 4:55:14 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: sergeantdave
Although people in certain areas would meekly submit, such as shown in New Orleans,

One of the most memorable events from NOLA was the video of a 75-yeat old grandma getting into a physical struggle with the SWAT team trying to seize her little revolver. That was the beginning and the end of the NOLA seizure program.

48 posted on 04/27/2007 4:55:39 AM PDT by angkor
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To: from occupied ga

My thoughts exactly. My ‘liberal’ neighbors have knocked on my door when they thought they saw a bear in their backyard (we live next to the Dismal Swamp in SE Virginia). Turned out to be a large possum, but just illustrates that guns can be your friends esp. when you’re scared. Lock and load.


49 posted on 04/27/2007 4:55:51 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: 230FMJ
You are either totally ignorant of history, insane, evil, or a combination of the above.

You know I thought that this a$$hole didn't know about things like the Warsaw Ghetto, but upon reflection, I think he does know about it.

He just doesn't view it the same way we do - as the the evil Nazis crushing the resistance of the heroic jews. In his viewpoint, the Nazis were the good guys. They were the lawful government, and the jews were criminals resisting lawful authority. The only losses this guy would regret in his modern day gun owner as jew scenario would be losses to their beloved police.

And I think that there would be considerable losses. Gun owners would just cower in their homes waiting for the door to get kicked down. I think all sorts of ambushes and ieds would start cropping up. And the score settling that he mentions in his piece of filth editorial? I think there are people in his area who would settle his. So the jerk better pray that his nazi dream of America doesn't come true, and he can continue to vent his fear and hatred of freedom from his nice comfortable position.

50 posted on 04/27/2007 4:56:09 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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