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The disarming of America (mega-barf, fascism is here)
The Toledo Blade ^ | 4-95-07 | Dan Simpson

Posted on 04/27/2007 3:47:48 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy

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To: metesky

Agree. My previously liberal bro-in-law (from MA) adopted conservatism once he accumulated some wealth and got sick of the taxman’s constant demands. Which just proves that some conservatives are liberals who were mugged.


61 posted on 04/27/2007 5:10:41 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Lurker
the Sgt in charge looked at my gun safe and said "I'd take everyone of these right now if I could."

Slightly off-topic, but contrast him to the police officer who took my report of some yoyo's stealing armloads of my firewood when I lived in upper New England (where firewood is still used by many for home heating).

I told him I was a little embarrassed about reporting something so trivial when the police probably more important things to do.

To which he said "Some people think that stealing firewood is a hanging offense". I waited for an indication he was joking, but it didn't come. He was being serious.

62 posted on 04/27/2007 5:13:40 AM PDT by angkor
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To: from occupied ga
I remember thinking how far these people have degenerated since 1776.

Massachusetts, like Kalifornia, is a lost cause...

63 posted on 04/27/2007 5:13:46 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Nope, he isn’t. His plan is based on history and there won’t be that much fighting back or opposition. There will be no way to organize and most “cold dead fingers” people will cave in the end, just like in Australia and other places.

Sorry, but the guy nails the plan.

It’s one thing to fight to the death yourself but will you have the wife and kids leave the house first? Or will you arm them and go down as a family? Won’t that look lovely on CNN.


64 posted on 04/27/2007 5:16:14 AM PDT by Bluesguy (bluesguy)
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To: Thermalseeker

Boston and Martha’s Vineyard, maybe.


65 posted on 04/27/2007 5:16:23 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: marvlus
Don’t worry. This will never happen in our lifetime or our children’s lifetime.

That's the same thing they were saying in Australia and Canada.....three weeks was all it took.

66 posted on 04/27/2007 5:16:28 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: tgusa
Boston and Martha’s Vineyard, maybe.

Kerry and Kennedy have been repeatedly sent back to the US Senate in state wide elections.....

67 posted on 04/27/2007 5:21:43 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: atomic conspiracy

I don’t have time right now to count them up, but I wonder exactly how many provisions of the Bill of Rights this scheme would violate.

I especially like the idea of random searches of dwellings by neighborhood. That’s likely to upset even the most rabid anti-gun fanatics.


68 posted on 04/27/2007 5:22:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; Flavius
That was the first thing I thought of as well.

Great minds think alike, and all that stuff...

Seriously, this Diplo Boy doesn't seem to grasp the Bill of Rights very well, does he?

Not to mention the armed resistance his "Special squads" would likely encounter, not merely from law-abiding citizens, but even criminals. Hell, if I were a crook, I'd be damned if I willingly gave up one of my tools of the trade...

And, as Flavius mentioned upstream about cocaine shipments, weapons- like drugs- are a small-bulk, high markup item-- a smuggler's dream. The UK tightened up their already draconian gun laws, and saw gun crimes jump 242%...

British Gun Crime up 242 Percent; Post Says 'Laws Seen As Curbing Attacks'

69 posted on 04/27/2007 5:23:08 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Thermalseeker

Won’t argue that, just making the point that there are some conservative bastions there. Of course many of them move down here once they retire. A ‘damn yankee’ is a yankee who moves south and you can’t get rid of ‘em.


70 posted on 04/27/2007 5:24:27 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: backhoe
My guns are not used for anything except hunting and self defense. I have never had to use any for the latter, but if the gun Nazis ever come, they will be facing either a .45 1911 or a 10 gage 3 1/2 inch magnum.
71 posted on 04/27/2007 5:26:27 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: metesky
solid majority of the ones I've kept in touch with over the years are gun owners

It is a theory of mine that you can tell how the majority of the population of an area thinks by looking at their elected representatives. Mass people may be gun owners, but obviously it's not high on their priority list or they wouldn't keep voting for hard core anti-gunners like Kerry and Kennedy.

And just because they're gun owners would they have the stones to go into a life or death confrontation with the police to keep their guns? Your ancestors did. The redcoats were the lawful authority of the time, and by the time they made it back to Boston, they were being sniped at by thousands of militia. This in a set of colonies where the total colonial population was less than 12 million. But today? I've lost faith in America. We've become a country of wimpy dependents and not just picking on the northeast either.

72 posted on 04/27/2007 5:28:33 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: atomic conspiracy

I am amazed that people who are so concerned the government might monitor their international phone calls to numbers associated with al-Quaeda types and fear the government wants to regulate their behavior in the bedroom, find it so easy to insist on suspending a wide range of fundamental civil rights when it comes to private ownership of firearms.


73 posted on 04/27/2007 5:29:01 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Beckwith
This idiot’s plan would result in the Second American Revolution.

Yes it would. And rightfully so, since the government would be acting in contravention of the Constitution. They are not getting mine, either - ever.

74 posted on 04/27/2007 5:30:43 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Ajnin

I have spoke with numerous members of L.E. about the issue of what if. They are in total agreement with you. Registering your guns is not smart by any stretch.


75 posted on 04/27/2007 5:31:38 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: from occupied ga
"gun owners would NOT cower"

Some would on their own, but put 5 or 6 of them together and it would be a whole different story.

Ask any sociology major about the difference between an individual or small group and a mob. Alone they might surrender meekly, but put a few hundred like minded people together and, well, isn't that exactly how riots are formed and perpetualted. People doing things together they would never imagine doing alone.

76 posted on 04/27/2007 5:33:16 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: from occupied ga
fog, we can agree or disagree about a lot of issues but

I've lost faith in America.

Buck up, man! It ain't over 'til it's over. If good conservatives quit the fight we are truly doomed.

77 posted on 04/27/2007 5:35:15 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: tgusa
A ‘damn yankee’ is a yankee who moves south and you can’t get rid of ‘em.

Preachin' to the choir. Born and raised in Georgia.....

78 posted on 04/27/2007 5:35:41 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

1 sheriff I know of keeps his gun records in the file cabinet closest to the paper shredder for just such an emergency...


79 posted on 04/27/2007 5:37:38 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy)
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To: atomic conspiracy
What if they did confiscate all firearms?

Would that really end violence?

Those who want to inflict damage could learn a lot about weaponry from radical Islamists. Instead of drive-bys and school shootings, we’d have car bombs and IEDs planted all over the place.

I guess Danny Boy and the rest of his Islamist backers would consider that a huge victory, because at least there’d be no more gun violence.

Another totalitarian, utopist idiot who doesn’t realize he’d be the first beheaded were his ideas to succeed.

80 posted on 04/27/2007 5:43:27 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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