Posted on 04/29/2007 5:28:20 AM PDT by #1CTYankee
I like Hunter, but I also like Thompson. At this juncture I feel Fred has a much greater ability to get the crossover votes, that's why I'm hoping I can hitch my wagon to the Fred train.
The train left the station waaaaaay too early. There are others stops along the way and Fred’s timing has been impressive to date. He’ll board the train when he’s ready.
~snip~
Mr Deaver sees the same raw material in Mr Thompson as was perceived in Ronald Reagan, describing him as someone “that could really make a difference”. He added: “He is very popular in his party. He could change this whole thing and turn this primary system upside down.
“As Ronald Reagan used to say, after he stole a line from Al Jolson, ‘Stay tuned, you ain’t seen nothing yet’.”
~snip~
I worked on the Blackwell campaign, and Ken was over a year out, just for a governor's race, making stops in every major town in Ohio---and he still got creamed. It's a huge effort, and I'm concerned that Fred is dallying.
He's the ONLY high-profile candidate saying this. Even Rush admitted that this week. If Fred wants to play, he needs to get in the ring. I'll support him, but I won't just ASSUME he's running because he does Paul Harvey commentaries.
I'm no expert either but I'm guessing if he's going to run the announcement will be in May.
If I'm right and he is, the wheels in the back room are already in motion.
Both Rudy and the Dems are problems. I don't want a Dem or Rudy in the Oval Office. Rudy's domestic viewpoints are too similar to the Dems for me.
He's the ONLY high-profile candidate saying this. Even Rush admitted that this week. If Fred wants to play, he needs to get in the ring. I'll support him, but I won't just ASSUME he's running because he does Paul Harvey commentaries.
Fred is doing just fine with his current strategy. The Rudy boosters are desperate for Fred to get in and draw attention away from Rudy's problems with abortion and his continued mention of his wife's possible future involvement in a Rudy administration.
There was no way a pubbie was gonna win in Ohio that year after Taft dragged the party down so far. So the comparision to the presidential primary is absurd.
I have a small disagreement with that statement though I have no doubt of the sentiment:
Ronald Reagan was bigger than the party. Ronald Reagan is the reason many of us are conservatives. Not just conservatism as a political hypothetical but as a reality we all know can exist because of his example. Ronald Reagan made all of us True Believers.
There will never be another Ronald Reagan. Fred Thompson won't be. Nobody will be. But Fred Thompson is our single best hope on the tightrope of electability and conservative principles.
I don’t think it’s clear that Fred wants or expects to get the nomination by acclamation as you say. He didn’t seriously begin considering this until 3 possibly 4 months ago. While many of us- including me- want him to announce already, there were reasons for him to have waited. First, to determine whether there really IS a level of support for him, rather than simply Anyone Who Isn’t Rudy. Then, he announced the news about his indolent lympoma. While measuring that, he’s continued to write pieces for ABC radio, and blogs at RedState and Townhall. To date, the only direction his numbers have been going is up.
There are also the legal issues to be resolved with L & O etc. I’ve read many differing opinions about what that means and doesn’t mean with residuals, equal time, etc. that it’s hard to know WHAT the facts are. I imagine he’s got some smart lawyers working on it, don’t you?
Just to help familiarize yourselves:
AWESOME FACTS ABOUT FRED THOMPSON
* Fred Thompson has on multiple occasions pronounced “nuclear” correctly.
* Fred Thompson has blasted more people in the face with a shotgun than even Dick Cheney.
* He’s Fred Thompson. You’re nothing.
* The masked executioner of Saddam Hussein: Fred Thompson.
* Not only does Fred Thompson cut taxes, he cuts tax collectors.
* Fred Thompson is the only person to have ever bested Miyamato Mushashi in a duel. The reason Musashi is so vague about the book of the void is because the fifth ring of combat is really Fred Thompson.
* The reason Fred Thompson didn’t want to stay in the Senate for long is because all the extra scrutiny kept him from doing his favorite hobby: Prowling the streets at night killing drug dealers.
* Every night before going to sleep, Osama bin Laden checks under his bed for Fred Thompson.
* Fred Thompson took over what was Al Gore’s Senate seat, thereby dramatically reducing the Senate’s carbon footprint. Fred Thompson then created carbon offset offsets by wastefully burning hippies.
* The Fremen consider “Fred Thompson” a killing word.
* Fred Thompson reconsidered running for reelection after 9/11 but later decided to handle things on his own. He was soon seen entering the Middle East with a bottle of tequila in one hand an a handgun in the other. They’re still counting the dead.
* Though Fred Thompson left the Senate in 2003, Harry Reid still hasn’t stopped wetting his pants.
* Fred Thompson’s gaze can kill small animals.
* Fred Thompson once ended a filibuster by ripping out a Senator’s heart and showing it to him before he died.
* The actual cause of global warming: Fred Thompson’s burning rage.
* The budget to Law & Order was dramatically increased when Fred Thompson was added to the cast because he has to be digitally inserted into the scenes since anytime he’s near Hollywood liberals, he kills them.
* Only two things can kill Superman: Kryptonite and Fred Thompson.
* Fred Thompson once stood on our south border and glared at Mexico. There was no illegal immigration for a month.
* Scientists predict that when Fred Thompson dies he’ll explode taking out the five nearest planets before collapsing into a black hole.
* At a campaign stop, a Belgian Hound tried to hump Fred Thompson’s leg. That breed of dog no longer exists.
* Fred Thompson vows not only to win in Iraq but also to forcefully free Vietnam from Communism, thus giving America a perfect win/loss record for wars again.
* If you purchase a weather radio, it will wake you up with an alarm to warn you when Fred Thompson is pissed off.
* An abortion doctor tried to kill Fred Thompson when he was still in the womb, but he cut off the man’s hand with scalpel while shouting, “Do you know who I am? I’m Fred Thompson!”
* Webster’s Dictionary defines “conservatism” as “how closely one’s views resemble those of Fred Thompson.”
* Fred Thompson’s sense of strategy is so great that he can checkmate you using only a pawn and a knight.
* Fred Thompson can know both the exact position and momentum of a particle. Furthermore, he knows Schroedinger’s cat is dead because he personally strangled it.
* The most efficient airline security is to have Fred Thompson stare down everyone entering a plane.
* When terrorists get to the afterlife, they’ll find that none of their seventy-two women are still virgins. Why? Because of Fred Thompson.
* Fred Thompson can open clamshell packaging without the slightest trouble.
* In a butterfly ballot, no matter where you punch it the vote goes to Fred Thompson.
* Why does Iran want nuclear weapons? Out of fear of Fred Thompson.
* Some versions of the Bible have Mathew 5:5 read, “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth... unless Fred Thompson wants it.”
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busted my chops bump !
Many an article state he doesn't have the fire in his belly to run for President, I believe otherwise, I think Thompson has come to the realization the country needs someone who can lead it during these difficult times and he is the best one to do it.
Just my two cents.
Sounds like Fred and Chuck Norris could be brothers ;-D
The wheels are in motion. Staff is being interviewed, etc. The Rudy supporters are just made that Fred gets to do this without taking incoming fire. So, they make up silly things to try to muck Fred up with.
Fred bump.
FRED-DEE!, FRED-DEE!, FRED-DEE!
Absurd. Fred is getting the buzz $100,000,000 and months on the campaign trail could not buy. Fred has passed candidates who have spent millions and have been campaigning full time.
Why can’t you do your own research? In every Thompson thread there are posts with links to a vast amount of information.
If you really wanted to know, instead of just making Thompson look bad, you would click a couple links.
But I’ll throw you a bone, since you brought out the old canard that Fred ran as a pro-choicer(Like a pro-choicer could get over 60$ of the vote in Tennessee).
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A video of Fred Thompson answering a question about abortion policy during a televised debate during his 1992 Senate campaign has surfaced on YouTube and is being portrayed as proof that Thompson once was “pro-choice” on abortion, but those who think that’s what it shows are simplistic in their analysis.
Key phrase in Thompson’s answer is this one: “I do not believe that the federal government ought to be involved in that process.” That sentence is the summary of all he says next, and shows he is opposed to Roe v. Wade, which represented the federalization of what had been a state-level issue.
He then says he is opposed to federal funding for abortion and supports the states’ right to regulate abortion - both are federalist and pro-life positions - and he opposes the federal government criminalizing abortion. Again, a federalist answer.
Thompson’s entire answer is very “federalist” - he believes abortion policy should be a matter for states rather than the federal government.
His answer also fits within the mainstream pro-life platform. Most pro-lifers do not favor making criminals of women who have abortions, and the pro-life push to overturn Roe v. Wade would merely return the issue of abortion to a state-level issue.
And, finally, Thompson’s voting record in 8 years in the Senate is solidly pro-life.
- Bill Hobbs, Elephant Biz, April 24, 2007
http://www.elephantbiz.com/2007/04/is_fred_thompson_prolife.html
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Fred wonders how it all got started:
In the days since Thompson allowed that he was thinking about running for president, his views on abortion have come under scrutiny. Thompson finds the news reports from his first run for Senate perplexing.
“I have read these accounts and tried to think back 13 years ago as to what may have given rise to them. Although I don’t remember it, I must have said something to someone as I was getting my campaign started that led to a story. Apparently, another story was based upon that story, and then another was based upon that, concluding I was pro-choice.”
But, he adds: “I was interviewed and rated pro-life by the National Right to Life folks in 1994, and I had a 100 percent voting record on abortion issues while in the Senate.”
Darla St. Martin, associate executive director of National Right to Life, supports Thompson on those claims. She traveled to Tennessee in 1994 to meet with him. “I interviewed him and on all of the questions I asked him, he opposed abortion,” she told the American Spectator’s Philip Klein.
Thompson says he thinks Roe v. Wade is bad law and should be overturned, but he says he does not support a Human Life Amendment.
- Stephen F. Hayes, The Weekly Standard, From the April 23, 2007 issue
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/528aylls.asp
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LifeNews.com on Fred:
“Thompson accumulated a strong pro-life voting record in Congress, and said over the weekend that he supports overturning Roe v. Wade.”
- Steven Ertelt, LifeNews.com, March 12, 2007
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2978.html
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A reality check on Fred and life:
“He [Fred Thompson] IS pro-life!”
- Doug Hagen, TheRealityCheck.org, march, 2007
http://www.therealitycheck.org/GuestColumnist/dhagin032007.htm
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Fred Thompson on the Issues:
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm#Abortion
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Fred Thompson SenateMatch/VoteMatch questionnaire response:
STRONGLY OPPOSES topic 1: “Abortion is a woman’s right”
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson_SenateMatch.htm
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Don’t believe the lies:
Both sides of the aisle are trying to figure out a way to derail the [Fred Thompson] campaign...[so don’t let them fool you into thinking Fred Thompson is anything other than 100% pro-life!]
- JB Williams, MichNews.com, Apr 11, 2007
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_16415.shtml
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Do not be deceived:
Today, the Evangelicals for Mitt operation has spent its time attacking conservative Republican presidential candidates, most recently former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and unannounced candidate, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson.
Thompson, who has made it clear that he does not support Roe v. Wade, and who was certified as pro-life by the National Right to Life Committee back in 1994, has continued to state that he is pro-life. But the Evangelicals for Mitt, using research provided by the Romney campaign, has been putting out information on its blog that Thompson, as well as other Republican Senate candidates, were not.
The Romney campaign has targeted Thompson as a serious threat to its ongoing political survival. Recent polls that have just begun including Thompson in surveys show him running ahead of Romney in Iowa, without his having spent a dime.
National Right to Life says Thompson has been reliably pro-life and his voting record sustains that view.
- Bill Hobbs, Elephant Biz, March 26, 2007
http://www.elephantbiz.com/2007/03/independent_blog_has_ties_to_r.html
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National Right to Life Committee on Fred Thompson:
“This morning, I cited reports being promoted by the pro-Romney blog Evangelicals for Mitt suggesting that Fred Thompson ran his two campaigns for Senate in Tennessee as a pro-choicer. Not so, National Right to Life executive co-director Darla St. Martin just told me.
St. Martin said that she went down to Tennessee in 1994 to speak with Thompson personally when he first ran for Senate, and that she determined he was against abortion.
‘I interviewed him and on all of the questions I asked him, he opposed abortion,’ St. Martin said. She told me that the group went on to support him in that election, and his record reinforced for her that their determination was correct.
‘He has a consistent voting record that is pro-life,’ she said.
On the NRLC website, they archive their congressional ratings back to 1997, so they include six of his eight years in the Senate. Thompson took the pro-life position on every vote he cast on the abortion issue...”
http://www.spectator.org/blogger.asp?BlogID=6017
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Pro-abortion NARAL gives Fred an “F”:
“NARAL also rated nine other Republicans... Based on their abortion rights stance, the following Republicans received a grade of ‘F’: ...Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee...”
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Try=No&Page=\Politics\archive\200007\POL20000714a.html
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NRLC says Fred is [still] pro-life:
“With 54% of the vote, pro-life former Tennessee Governor Lamar Alexander (R) won the seat of retiring PRO-LIFE Senator Fred Thompson.”
http://www.nrlc.org/news/2002/NRL11/senate.html
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Pro-abortion Planned Parenthood can’t find a thing to like about Fred:
“Listed below is the name, state and party of each of these senators along with Planned Parenthood’s rating of them.
Name State Party PP rating...
Fred Thompson TN R 0% “
http://www.all.org/stopp/rr0111.htm
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