Posted on 04/29/2007 1:34:30 PM PDT by John Jorsett
How much money does it take to screw in a compact fluorescent light bulb? About US$4.28 for the bulb and labour -- unless you break the bulb. Then you, like Brandy Bridges of Ellsworth, Maine, could be looking at a cost of about US$2,004.28, which doesn't include the costs of frayed nerves and risks to health.
Sound crazy? Perhaps no more than the stampede to ban the incandescent light bulb in favour of compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs).
According to an April 12 article in The Ellsworth American, Bridges had the misfortune of breaking a CFL during installation in her daughter's bedroom: It dropped and shattered on the carpeted floor.
Aware that CFLs contain potentially hazardous substances, Bridges called her local Home Depot for advice. The store told her that the CFL contained mercury and that she should call the Poison Control hotline, which in turn directed her to the Maine Department of Environmental Protection.
The DEP sent a specialist to Bridges' house to test for mercury contamination. The specialist found mercury levels in the bedroom in excess of six times the state's "safe" level for mercury contamination of 300 billionths of a gram per cubic meter. The DEP specialist recommended that Bridges call an environmental cleanup firm, which reportedly gave her a "low-ball" estimate of US$2,000 to clean up the room. The room then was sealed off with plastic and Bridges began "gathering finances" to pay for the US$2,000 cleaning. Reportedly, her insurance company wouldn't cover the cleanup costs because mercury is a pollutant.
Given that the replacement of incandescent bulbs with CFLs in the average U.S. household is touted as saving as much as US$180 annually in energy costs -- and assuming that Bridges doesn't break any more CFLs -- it will take her more than 11 years to recoup the cleanup costs in the form of energy savings.
The potentially hazardous CFL is being pushed by companies such as Wal-Mart, which wants to sell 100 million CFLs at five times the cost of incandescent bulbs during 2007, and, surprisingly, environmentalists.
It's quite odd that environmentalists have embraced the CFL, which cannot now and will not in the foreseeable future be made without mercury. Given that there are about five billion light bulb sockets in North American households, we're looking at the possibility of creating billions of hazardous waste sites such as the Bridges' bedroom.
Usually, environmentalists want hazardous materials out of, not in, our homes. These are the same people who go berserk at the thought of mercury being emitted from power plants and the presence of mercury in seafood. Environmentalists have whipped up so much fear of mercury among the public that many local governments have even launched mercury thermometer exchange programs.
As the activist group Environmental Defense urges us to buy CFLs, it defines mercury on a separate part of its Web site as a "highly toxic heavy metal that can cause brain damage and learning disabilities in fetuses and children" and as "one of the most poisonous forms of pollution."
Greenpeace also recommends CFLs while simultaneously bemoaning contamination caused by a mercury-thermometer factory in India. But where are mercury-containing CFLs made? Not in the United States, under strict environmental regulation. CFLs are made in India and China, where environmental standards are virtually non-existent.
And let's not forget about the regulatory nightmare in the U.S. known as the Superfund law, the EPA regulatory program best known for requiring expensive but often needless cleanup of toxic waste sites, along with endless litigation over such cleanups.
We'll eventually be disposing billions and billions of CFL mercury bombs. Much of the mercury from discarded and/or broken CFLs is bound to make its way into the environment and give rise to Superfund liability, which in the past has needlessly disrupted many lives, cost tens of billions of dollars and sent many businesses into bankruptcy.
As each CFL contains five milligrams of mercury, at the Maine "safety" standard of 300 nanograms per cubic meter, it would take 16,667 cubic meters of soil to "safely" contain all the mercury in a single CFL. While CFL vendors and environmentalists tout the energy cost savings of CFLs, they conveniently omit the personal and societal costs of CFL disposal.
Not only are CFLs much more expensive than incandescent bulbs and emit light that many regard as inferior to incandescent bulbs, they pose a nightmare if they break and require special disposal procedures. Yet governments (egged on by environmentalists and the Wal-Marts of the world) are imposing on us such higher costs, denial of lighting choice, disposal hassles and breakage risks in the name of saving a few dollars every year on the electric bill? - Steven Milloy publishes JunkScience.com and CSRWatch.com. He is a junk-science expert and advocate of free enterprise, and an adjunct scholar at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
Looks like if you want to shut down a public building for a while, all you have to do is ‘accidently’ break one of their CFL bulbs. The easy alternative to anthrax.
I like them. Sweep, trash, and forget.
Seems fairly obvious that you shouldn’t call DEP when you break one.
Interestingly, there is no statement that she was required to clean it up like a hazardous waste site, only that it was recommended.
Hmmm...small, lightweight Mercury grenades.
I don't think she had a legal alternative. She couldn't safely transport it in broken form to an authorized disposal site (and I doubt that they'd take it when it was broken anyway), so cleanup or sealing off the room forever was about all she could do.
Five times the cost of environmentalists?
Sweep it up, insert in plastic bag, then into trash container?
Who’s to know?
You wanna bet that’s not how 99%+ of such spills are handled right now?
BTW, most mercury compounds are not wildly toxic.
Perhaps someone on this site knows which compounds are used in these lights.
—idiocy—
I suspect that flushing $2,000 would make most of us sicker than would the mercury level in Ms. Bridges bedroom.
Here are the EPA’s recommendations for cleanup:
Safe cleanup precautions: If a CFL breaks in your home, open nearby windows to disperse any vapor that may escape, carefully sweep up the fragments (do not use your hands) and wipe the area with a disposable paper towel to remove all glass fragments. Do not use a vacuum. Place all fragments in a sealed plastic bag and follow disposal instructions above.
http://www.nema.org/lamprecycle/epafactsheet-cfl.pdf
Dumb envirowackos are poisening, no, make that raping, raping Mother Earth with their Pries cars and energy saving light bulbs.
A CFL typically contains 4 mg of mercury versus 3000 for old-style thermostats and 500 for a mercury thermometer.
As I suspected, the author is attempting to scare people.
Here is a major issue:
Fluorescent lighting — Anyone who has anytype of seizures and the light flickers even the slightest without outright seeing it will bring on seizures.
This is also one of the tests Neurologists put you through, flicking lights to check for seizures.
very high fool/money ratio in that story...
The volatile metallic poisonous kind.
Just gently clean the glass up, sprinkle with fine sulfur powder, and vacuum it up in a week or two. Or just vacuum it up straight away.
non-issue
CFL’s run at an internally generated 300 cycles, not the “flicker 60” you’re used to.
CFLs make sense for non-dimmed fixtures that are
on for extended periods. We use them in most of
our lights.
But rabid EDS victims (Edison Derangement Syndrome)
need to await mass market LED lamps.
Patience, glasshopper.
> Or just vacuum it up straight away.
At least wear a respirator,
and open the windows.
What a crock! Just another over reaction from a government agency.
Moral of the story: Do NOT call in the DEP or the EPA. If you do, you will never get free of them again.
Probably when this lady goes to sell her house, she will be required to warn potential buyers that it has been contaminated with dangerous pollutants.
I don’t know how many mercury spills I’ve cleaned up in my career. There is a special vacuum available for cleaning up the stuff.
After all this exposure to mercury 50 or 60 years ago, I don't seem to be suffering any ill side effects.
So what it saves the planet from carbon eating jellyfish.
Yeah—it does, actually.
What are those heavy sponges from that come in mercury clean up kits?
LOL! I missed your JK the first go ‘round. I thought you might be trying to diagram my sentences or something.
Actually, this isn’t too far off my own line of work.
Not every HEPA-filtered vac is appropriate, only ones certified for this particular use. They tend to be very expensive. She’d prolly be better off hiring the company for $2k.
Light bulbs don't kill people.
Neurotic klutzes kill people.
Just saying.
I had some old (30+years) pesticides in my basement, including some that have been banned since (no DDT). When a shelf collapsed and a bottle broke, filling the house with fumes, I called poison control, who told me to call 911.
When the firefighters arrived, they used a kitty-litter-type substance to absorb the spill, and carried the broken and intact bottles out to the back yeard. They said there was nothing hazardous to humans, and I should just open the doors and windows and vent the house with as many fans as I could lay hands on. I should jut step outside if I felt light-headed.
When I asked what I should do about clean-up, the lady in charge said “Technically, I’m supposed to tell you to call a hazmat team. They’ll come in in containment suits and it’ll cost about a thousand bucks.”
Then she leaned in and said, quietly, “but the litter will absorb into the back yard, and that box looks a lot like household waste. You didn’t hear that from me.”
My father (now deceased) used to tell how when he was a kid he collected about 50 lbs of mercury from old thermostats and switches and took it to the fourth floor of his school and poured it down the stairs. He said little silver balls of mercury rolled down the hallways, under classroom doors, and could be found rolling around the school for years.
They are called chemical sponges. I'm not familiar with their composition.
stuff that no disposal site will take I put in the midst of garbage and put out for the trash.
don’t tell.
You just can’t make this stuff up. CFL light bulbs being toxic if they are broken and can’t be assembled in the USA?
Well.... I’ll have to remember those two.
For Freepers who want to dispose of NON-broken CFL bulbs when they finally quit working, check your local hazardous waste diposal location.
I took my expired CFL there last week. No problems at all.
Soooooo .. once again .. the liberals have created a MESS!
In their quest to SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT these lightbulbs actually can cause MORE DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT .. and practically bankrupt the user.
Good going liberals .. as usual .. you never look at the results of what you do .. it’s only INSTANT GRATIFICATION.
My only question is this:
I realize it would be unusual for a bulb to break in a carpeted area, but say it hit a table, shattered and the fragments fell into the carpet.
The EPA says not to use a vacuum. Okay, now what?
Hey, you know that sounds like a business opportunity.
Have mercury vacuum, will show up and clean up for a reasonable fee.
Sure, it would be sort of the Maytag Repairman syndrome, but if it’s just a paying hobby and you’re not trying to make a living off it, could be cool.
I’d suggest replacing the carpet in that area.
Among other things, it is quite remarkably difficult to be sure you’ve gotten all the broken glass out of a carpet.
It should costless than $2k.
Are they on the NASDAQ yet?
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