Posted on 04/30/2007 1:18:21 PM PDT by mjp
“the pope asserts that evolution cannot be conclusively proved; and that the manner in which life developed was indicative of a “divine reason””
Life ‘developed’ by evolving. What else does develop mean? And if evolution ‘cannot be ... proved’ then to ascribe the manner of evolving to a divine reason is moot. Divine reason cannot cause something that did not happen (cannot be ... proved). Maybe things can develop without changing, but not in my world.
wrong.......You would know Jesus Christ with or without Religion. Religion has little or anything to do with it.....Religion was made by man as a term and is used to control people....
Don’t forget, the POPE just declared that Babies are no longer in Limbo...:)) I just wonder if he made liaison with before he made that command decision. I wonder what the babies were doing before that. Can you imagine. Just this month in one instant, the Pope makes this declaration and all of a sudden, Babies are moving out of limbo....
The Holy Spirit could care less about Religion.........you don’t need religion to have communion with God.
Antichrist.
exactly!!!!!!!!!!! and, when he comes back the second time...it won’t be like his first visit. It’s going to get very very ugly for “religious types”, and “Christians who have not really accepted Christ” and all the others to top the list, the NEW WORLD ORDER propoents.....going to get really really interesting.
The Bible is written in our hearts.....its not always necessary to have a Bible where we are. Not having a Bible doesn’t mean God of the Bible disappears. His words come with or without the Bible.
Exactly! We don’t know the ‘day or the hour’ - but we know ‘the season’. And the things mentioned in the Bible about the last day coudn’t be understood twenty years ago but with technology advances - no more mystery. Ugly indeed! My bags are packed, are yours. :)
well, I have a suspicion that my bags will be either a white robe or jail strips if I’m left back here.....:)) Christians left behind to endure the Tribulation and saved by Fire....will really have a hard way, but, will earn their way to judgment but will be martyrs in his name by example.........
We are WINNERS either way as this age of Grace is coming to an end! Then a 1,000 year reign with the King of Kings!
How?
How would you know of Jesus Christ if not from the Bible or from a preacher of some sort?
****** “....Religion was made by man as a term and is used to control people....”
James says that Religion can be good... “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” - James 1:27
****** “Don’t forget, the POPE just declared that Babies are no longer in Limbo...:”
It’s not my job to defend the Pope - but he was addressing a commonly held belief not the dogma of the RCC. (Catholics may correct me on this.)
****** “The Holy Spirit could care less about Religion.”
The Holy Spirit inspired James to write his epistle we referenced above.
****** “you don’t need religion to have communion with God.”
Religion:
1A. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1B. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Based on the above, which kind of religion are you referring to?
This is what I’ve come to understand. Whether you are a pre-Trib or post trib...or whatever, my question is, what difference does it make.
Also, people talk about the “end of the world”..this is a scare tactic. There is the end of the world as we know it in a secular sense. However, it is actually the beginning of an eternity.....not an end.
Evolution itself has been used for so many just-so stories it is on the verge of becoming a tautology. Since atheists use evolution as an attack on the Bible and conservative Christians, there is more to evolution than a simple “mechanism of creation”. If the atheist crowd could definitively prove false Genesis, then why should they take any part of Christianity seriously?
While the young-earth crowd increasingly grasp at straws, this doesn’t mean we should throw out even a literal interpretation of Genesis entirely. But at the same time this does not mean that we understand the literal meaning of Genesis completely. For instance, due to the fluidity of time as affected by speed and gravity, the explanation in Genesis, even if accurate, may not be clear for quite a while.
While genetics should be the foundation of biology, and I don’t believe that any biologist would say that they completely understand genetics, evolution has taken over as the philosophical “foundation of biology” even while new cellular and genetic mechanisms are discovered today.
“If the atheist crowd could definitively prove false Genesis, then why should they take any part of Christianity seriously?”
Indeed. Why should they?
How?
****The Holy Spirit is supernatural. The Holy Spirit talks to us through our thoughts and he writes on our hearts the true word of God when we let him in. How do you think the authors of the Bible wrote the Bible in the first place. The old testament to the New testament, written by man, but his writings were inspired by a supernatural force called the Holy Spirit. Jesus said we would not be left alone, he would send the comforter. God would not has us to depend the possession of a Bible. He surpasses all that. You can take the Bible away, you can burn it, whatever, but the word of God is written in our hearts. One cannot restrict nor shut out the creator. One cannot box God up and fit him into what we would like him to be, just so we are comfortable in our own little made up world.
“How would you know of Jesus Christ if not from the Bible or from a preacher of some sort?”
****Just answered that.....Don’t need a preacher, Pope or Rabbi, or Imam. You can’t limit God to this world. Preachers, Popes, etc.....are nice to have, however, 30% +/- of Catholic priest or whoever are pedofiles...Baptist preachers sometimes “messes” around with the Deacons wife....or underage children as well.....Don’t need a preacher...I can read the Bible and so can everyone else. Don’t have a Bible, I can pray, and God will answer with words to our hearts. Confess only to him your sins, no preacher or Priest or even POPE. Does no good and will go for nothing. None of these died on the cross. They will be judged just as the common criminal as all of us will be judged.
****** “....Religion was made by man as a term and is used to control people....”
“James says that Religion can be good... “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.” - James 1:27”
*****It can be good if it is in compliance with the Bible. Mormons have religion...but, I doubt very seriously if any of them will become Gods and inherit a planet of their very own. this is in accordance with the Morman Religion. You can have this in your religion, and written in your own Bible...however, this doesn’t mean it will be true.
****** “Don’t forget, the POPE just declared that Babies are no longer in Limbo...:”
It’s not my job to defend the Pope - but he was addressing a commonly held belief not the dogma of the RCC. (Catholics may correct me on this.)
*****Sure, but, the Bible would address this in Daniel and other verses. It does not make it so because a man proclaims it to be true. What verses or part of Gods word gave him the authority to make this “determination”? If there is an answer to this question. Then, what was the hold up, the Bible was there all along.
****** “The Holy Spirit could care less about Religion.”
“The Holy Spirit inspired James to write his epistle we referenced above.”
*****Sure did, but didn’t say anything about making a religion. He was just inspired to write and testify what the Holy Spirit wrote on his heart.
****** “you don’t need religion to have communion with God.”
Religion:
1A. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1B. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Based on the above, which kind of religion are you referring to?
*******No Religion as I said before. Religion was a term invented and defined by man. Religion is an institution designed to control and fit mans desires to commune with whatever higher reasoning power they want. So, if this means Scientology....then, this is their religion. Shall we discuss what Christ says about false Gods? The Iron Mountain report (the hoax of the Iron Mountain Report is the claim that it was a hoax), stated that one substitute of War to control people was specifically; among others, was “New Religions and other Mythologies”.
Scare tactic, indeed. “World without end, Amen”.
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