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Why You Should Care About Parker v. District of Columbia
Townhall.com ^ | May 1, 2007 | Sandy Froman

Posted on 05/02/2007 2:14:58 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/02/2007 2:15:01 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Man, I didn't think the DC would appeal to the USSC.

The gun-grabbers have steered as far away from that as they possibly could for years, because they know if they lose it will be really bad for them.

They would prefer passing 2,000,000 local gun control laws and wear us down to losing one USSC case and being finished.

2 posted on 05/02/2007 2:21:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Going for a Roe v Wade style victory. It’s a big gamble, but like all big gambles sometimes you win big too


3 posted on 05/02/2007 2:22:31 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: neverdem

bump and bookmark


4 posted on 05/02/2007 2:23:24 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Eyes Unclouded
They aren't appealing to the USSC, they're appealing to the entire district court.

I should have RTFA.

5 posted on 05/02/2007 2:23:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

They’re going for broke with this one because the tide of sentiment is going against them. More and more people are buying guns.


6 posted on 05/02/2007 2:24:40 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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What happens if they win?!
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7 posted on 05/02/2007 2:26:45 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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8 posted on 05/02/2007 2:26:54 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mayor for Life Barry has moved to repeal the law - that would obviate the court case, and keep it out of the USSC.

I think Massachussets paid him off.


9 posted on 05/02/2007 2:32:14 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: neverdem

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1799459/posts


10 posted on 05/02/2007 2:33:46 PM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But the loser of that case will appeal to the US Supreme Court.

Four justices will grant certiorari: either 4 conservatives or 4 liberals, depending on which side wins.

And then the Supreme Court hears the case.

Justice Kennedy may be the deciding vote on yet another landmark case.

But here’s an interesting thought: Justice Souter was mugged jogging in Washington DC. He might think there’s a personal right to arms.


11 posted on 05/02/2007 2:37:57 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that there is a great difference between the right to bear arms and the right to fire them.


12 posted on 05/02/2007 2:38:07 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: neverdem
A people without the means to preserve their existence and ultimately their rights - have no rights at all. The most important right is the right to life, without which all the rest are rendered meaningless.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 05/02/2007 2:38:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
What happens if they win?!

The majority in yesterday’s decision pointed to a 1998 dissent in which “at least three current members (and one former member) of the Supreme Court have read ‘bear arms’ in the Second Amendment to have meaning beyond mere soldiering.” They were former Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, who died in 2005, and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Antonin Scalia and David H. Souter.

There's reason for cautious optimism. Here's the actual paragraph from Parker:

"We also note that at least three current members (and one former member) of the Supreme Court have read "bear Arms" in the Second Amendment to have meaning beyond mere soldiering: "Surely a most familiar meaning [of 'carries a firearm'] is, as the Constitution's Second Amendment ('keepand bear Arms') and Black's Law Dictionary . . . indicate: 'wear, bear, or carry . . . upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose . . . of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person." Muscarello v. United States, 524 U.S. 125, 143 (1998) (Ginsburg, J., dissenting, joined by Rehnquist, C.J., Scalia, J.,and Souter, J.) (emphasis in original). Based on the foregoing, we think the operative clause includes a private meaning for"bear Arms."

Do you now think Ginsburg and Souter will contradict themselves?

14 posted on 05/02/2007 2:47:49 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Does the Second Amendment guarantee an individual right to own a gun?

I thought you only had to be able to read English to figure that one out, but then I usually don't over-analyze things.

15 posted on 05/02/2007 2:48:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Eyes Unclouded

That’s just it - they’ve upped the stakes, and the consequences of failure are unthinkable for both sides.

They’re going for broke.


16 posted on 05/02/2007 3:00:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Any one out there have any confidence in our Supreme Court?
If you do then you are either on drugs or stupid.
Give them credit as they have allowed that partial birth is murder but what the hell else have they gotten right in the last ten years or so?
Got a few bucks? Yes you too can buy their vote like most judicial jurisdictions.


17 posted on 05/02/2007 3:00:53 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Eyes Unclouded

I forgot to add this:

The gungrabbers see the tide of sentiment turning against them; they see things like the Tennessee gun de-restriction, Governor Perry’s statement about the RKBa, the ever increasing numbers of states and places with CCW and/or open carry, the failure of their predicted bloodbaths after deregulation, and the reduction of their power in areas where their lies have become transparent to all.

They rightfully fear that the logical conclusion of their loss would be the total revocation of nearly all gun controls, “hard won” (in their opinion) over the course of a century.


18 posted on 05/02/2007 3:07:58 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
"What happens if they win?!"

Then we amend the Constitution to re-establish the individual RKBA. Do you honestly think that the legislatures of 3/4's of the states WOULDN'T pass such an amendment??? With 70% of to populace already believing that such a right exists.

19 posted on 05/02/2007 3:21:04 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
What happens if they win?!

If they win, the "awkward phase" will be over.

20 posted on 05/02/2007 3:22:50 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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