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Bush Expected to Veto 'Hate Crimes' Bill
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Posted on 05/03/2007 12:13:40 PM PDT by fabrizio

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To: fabrizio

If a democrat is President this Bill is signed into law in a New York second.


21 posted on 05/03/2007 12:44:07 PM PDT by AU72
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To: skyman
“I hope we see a lot of vetos for the remainder of his term”

I can’t think of many laws passed over the past 30 years that should NOT have been vetoed. The best time in recent history was when congress was shut down during Clinton admin due to lack of funding.
When congress does NOTHING is when the American people are free.

22 posted on 05/03/2007 12:51:35 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: fabrizio

I hope the prez vetoes this godawful bill. Just rec’d the following via email this morning. Makes a lot of sense as to why the bill should NOT be passed.

Wednesday, May 02, 2007
Hate Crimes Legislation

Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, says that the hate-crimes legislation that will come before the U.S. House this week would not only give extra legal protection to people with gender-identity confusion, but also could “pave the way for religious persecution.”

He said, “There’s a vote coming up on some insidious legislation that could silence and punish Christians for their moral beliefs. That means that as a Christian – if you read the Bible a certain way with regard to morality – you may be guilty of committing a ‘thought crime.’” (Focus on the Family Radio Broadcast – May 1, 2007).

He also said similar laws in Canada and Europe have already led to prosecution for simply expressing a biblical view.

It is ironic that had the shooter at Virginia Tech, who said he was angry at “rich kids,” killed homosexuals or transgender people, that would have brought the federal government into the case because that would have been a “hate crime.”

“Hate crimes” legislation sounds fair, but it isn’t. First, it violates the 14th amendment and secondly, it treats victims differently based on class.

Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International — a ministry to people who are unhappy with their same-sex attraction, has said he and the people he counsels illustrate the inequity. He told Dr. Dobson, “This legislation says that we – as former homosexuals – are of less value and worth less legal protection now than when we were living as homosexuals.”

This is one of those many situations that, in my opinion, fit into the “Frog in the Kettle” analogy. It feels good and right, but in the end, it’s deadly legislation.

Or, perhaps it could be characterized as something that is presented as “an Angel of Light” when in fact it is seeking to devour the freedoms of many Americans – particularly Christians.

Please contact your U.S. Representatives and Senators and ask them to oppose The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act. It is H.R. 1592 in the House and S. 1105 in the Senate.

This legislation gives special protections comparable to that given race and religious belief and should not be passed.


23 posted on 05/03/2007 12:52:20 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: AU72

Did this pass the Senate? I don’t recall. If a Democrat were president I would hope at least one GOP senator would filibuster it. Just maybe they could sustain a filibuster though I’m sure a lot of “moderates” would jump ship.

Of course the vile lies about Bush being a bigot, racist, homophobe, etc will be flying.


24 posted on 05/03/2007 12:52:37 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TexGuy

The Jerk...stupid movie, but I loved it. Remember “Patti” and “pizza-in-a-cup”?


25 posted on 05/03/2007 12:53:25 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: skyman

He hates these cans! LOL I love that part in the movie!

Me too. Only Steve Martin could have thought up a line that perverse - a true comic genius!


26 posted on 05/03/2007 12:54:16 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: OldBlondBabe

“Remember “Patti” and “pizza-in-a-cup”?”

Remember his dogs name?


27 posted on 05/03/2007 12:59:18 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: TNCMAXQ

“homophobe”

What a stupid ass word. Who the hell is afraid of homos anyway? Are there any fatphobs? Shortphobes? Hillaryphobes? Well, ok, I’ll give you that one. I for one am afraid of Hillary.


28 posted on 05/03/2007 1:03:44 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: fabrizio

Passed 237 to 180.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1827973/posts


29 posted on 05/03/2007 1:07:28 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: fabrizio

Passed 237 to 180.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1827973/posts

Now all of us here are guilty!


30 posted on 05/03/2007 1:07:40 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: hophead

Was it sh*thead?


31 posted on 05/03/2007 1:09:14 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: OldBlondBabe

“Was it sh*thead?”

Bingo. He was calling for his dog. “Sh*thead, come here Sh*thead.”


32 posted on 05/03/2007 1:18:28 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: fabrizio

‘Hate Crimes’ Vote on National Prayer Day Angers Some Christians
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
May 03, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - Leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives have scheduled a vote on a “hate crimes” bill for Thursday, which is also the National Day of Prayer. One conservative group called this an example of “in your face” politics against Christians in America - a charge strongly denied by the Democrats.

“There will be no shortage of things to pray for on this National Day of Prayer as the Congress takes a dark first step toward criminalizing public statements of sincerely held religious beliefs,” Rev. Louis Sheldon, founder and chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a news release.

“Homosexual extremists and their allies in the Congress have set out to rub the noses of religious citizens in their so-called hate crimes legislation, which repeals the rights of Christians to exercise their religion freely and in public,” Sheldon stated.

Sheldon’s comments refer to the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007 (H.R. 1592), which would “provide federal assistance to states, local jurisdictions and Indian tribes to prosecute hate crimes” involving “actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability.”

Conservative Christian activists worry that the measure would give individuals who engage in homosexual behavior (”sexual orientation”) or cross dressers (”gender identity”) preferential treatment over other citizens by elevating them to a specially protected class.

“This so-called hate crimes bill begins to lay the legal foundation and framework to investigate, prosecute and persecute pastors, business owners and anyone else whose actions are based upon - and reflect - the truths found in the Bible,” Sheldon said.

TVC Executive Director Andrea Lafferty called the measure - which was introduced on March 20 by Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) - “deeply offensive to people of faith across America.”

“No-one can tell me that the ‘original intent’ of America’s founders was to have the free exercise of religion regulated by secularists and their cohorts in the liberal and homosexual movements,” Lafferty stated.

“This is the beginning of a dark and dangerous period for religious Americans who now face the specter of privatized religious expression and secretive home churches,” she added.

Stacey Bernards, press secretary for House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), called the TVC’s claim “baseless and inflammatory” and said the organization “doesn’t have any evidence” to back up the charge of deliberately timing the vote for National Day of Prayer, “because it’s not true.”

“This was just the best time for the measure to move forward through the legislative process” since the House Judiciary Committee last week passed it in a 23-17 party-line vote, Bernards said.

Nevertheless, TVC spokesman Jim Lafferty told Cybercast News Service that his group considers the Democratic leaders’ efforts to be “very calculated and very much on purpose,” such as imposing a “no amendment” rule Wednesday before debate in the full chamber has even begun.

“We think that the leadership in the House has put this on a fast track [in an effort] to energize part of their base,” Lafferty stated. But “the heat they’re starting to receive from church people and pastors throughout the country has caused them to back off somewhat.” Still, he expects the measure “to sail through the House.”

Some religious leaders were not offended by the scheduling of the vote, regardless of the reason. Rev. Elenora Giddings Ivory, director of the Washington, D.C., office of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - who supports H.R. 1592 - told Cybercast News Service that holding the vote on a day of prayer “doesn’t bother me.”

“We should always be at prayer for anyone who’s a victim of hate,” she said.

The conservative group Concerned Women for America (CWA) is already looking beyond Thursday and is asking President Bush to veto the legislation if it is passed by Congress.

“Justice should be blind,” CWA President Wendy Wright said in a news release. She said the assailants of Matthew Shepard - a homosexual youth who was killed in 1998 - should receive the same sentence as the killer of Mary Stachowicz, “a grandmother who was brutally murdered by a homosexual man [in Chicago in 2002].”

“Victims are - and should be - treated equally in the justice system, regardless of their ‘sexual orientation,’” Wright added. “We cannot imagine that President Bush would sign a bill that would create a two-tiered justice system that discriminates against grandmothers.”

Other Christian groups opposing the bill include the Family Research Council and the High Impact Leadership Coalition.


33 posted on 05/03/2007 1:23:55 PM PDT by griswold3 (Don't 'Bob Dole' me in 2008!!)
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To: fabrizio

Another promising veto threat by the Prez. Kudos.


34 posted on 05/03/2007 1:36:05 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: blitzgig

Strike three! Play ball! ;D!


35 posted on 05/03/2007 1:37:31 PM PDT by poobear
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To: fabrizio
no persuasive demonstration of any need to federalize

Don't know what the proper allocation between FedGov and State agencies might be, but FedGov has been on a campaign to Federalize everything possible. IOW immanetize the XIVth.

36 posted on 05/03/2007 1:41:33 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: fabrizio

So maybe voting for him was a good idea after all?


37 posted on 05/03/2007 1:48:52 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: fabrizio

Am I hallucinating, or is our phony-conservative of a president doing something actually conservative?


38 posted on 05/03/2007 8:31:31 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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To: AU72

Me : Damn dummycraps.

Hitlery on the telescreen : You have violated the federal hate crime law. (Though police bust in.) Report directly to Room 101. (Thought Police drag me in to Room 101.)

Me : What’s in Room 101? (Suddenly, Jm J. Bullock shows up nekkid.)

Jm J. : Well what did you expect, thilly?

Me : NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

:)


39 posted on 05/03/2007 8:35:09 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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To: blitzgig
The Dems can’t even pass a minimum wage bill. Wouldn’t be surprising if this bill gets bottled up in Congress as well. Even if they somehow manage to pass it, it’s dead on arrival when it reaches the President’s desk.

I thought they passed the minimum wage bill in the first hundred days?

40 posted on 05/03/2007 8:36:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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