School bullying a focus since shootings (Priceless...)

Ventura County Star ^ | May 5, 2007 | By Marjorie Hernandez

[johnny7]

In the weeks since the deadly Virginia Tech shootings, reports have revealed shooter Seung-Hui Cho as a shy, introverted person who never spoke, was taunted in high school and didn't seem to have friends. The shooting spree that claimed the lives of 33 people, including Cho, who committed suicide, prompted educators across the nation not only to re-examine campus safety policies but also to put the issue of bullying at the forefront of discussion.

[johnny7]

“In the weeks since the deadly Virginia Tech shootings, reports have revealed shooter Seung-Hui Cho as a shy, introverted person who never spoke, was taunted in high school and didn't seem to have friends.”

Seung-Hui Cho was a criminally insane time-bomb who used our PC infested culture to avoid scrutiny. There was only one type of state institution Seung-Hui Cho belonged in... and unfortunately, they have all been bulldozed or boarded-up.

[af_vet_rr]

Seung-Hui Cho was a criminally insane time-bomb who used our PC infested culture to avoid scrutiny.

I've come to the conclusion that most people want to bury their heads in the sand (including the media and police) and pretend that people don't snap and go insane.

They want to rationalize it - they want to say he watched this movie or bought this gun or played this game or was bullied.

It bothers them to think that there are people who are just crazy, because nobody knows why these people snap and what you don't understand scares you. If you can blame it on guns, you can file that away in your mind and not worry about it. When Whitman did his thing on the Tower, there wasn't this endless debate about his access to guns, etc., there was this "he went crazy" attitude, and we moved on. This trying to search for reasons is just one more sign of how wimpy we are becoming.

[L98Fiero]

Well said.

[TLEIBY308]

He was also a muslim.

[Betty Jane]

Has that been onfirmed?

[buck61]

It’s strange how events change so rapidly in today’s society.
My fifteen year old grandson gave a lecture about school bulling in the state of Tn.. It was a contest for lecturers state wide, he came in second and, the subject of school bulling was presented to him by one of his teachers.

What surprised me? The fact that only a week later we had the VT murders.
Teachers in all academic professionals should be very aware of the dangers they now face in the class rooms.

[Hat-Trick]

This trying to search for reasons is just one more sign of how wimpy we are becoming.

How absolutely true that is. The frustrating part to me is that the "search for reasons" often ends up as a distraction to the adequate and just punishment of the offender (when they don't act further like cowards and kill themselves). Large parts of our society refuse to accept the fact that, as a society made up of free-will beings, there will be lots of evil people and we won't ever be able to do anything to prevent them from perpetrating their evil acts.

[TLEIBY308]

It has’nt been reported but the Ismeal on his arm and on his return address leads me to beleive there is a conection.

[ivyleaguebrat]

The response you’re looking for is “no.”

[RC2]

Bullying? I’m probably older than most in here. I was in school in the ‘40’s and 50’s and scraps between boys was a normal thing from time to time. Just part of growing up. Bullys were taken care of when it got carried away and taken care of by the kids. In high school we had one car club that were known as bullys. One day all the 5 other car club members got together and confronted the Commanders...the bullys....and told them “That’s enough”. The Commanders were bad dudes but when we all got together, they couldn’t do anything about it. They backed down and became somewhat sane. You can’t rely on the schools to take care of bullys. The kids will do it if you allow them to start becoming young men and stop tying their hands and making the average kid the bad guy. This is crazy.

[gaijin]

Sympathy for the killer, huh....

"When you're cruel to the kind, it's not long before you're kind to the CRUEL..."

[Clintonfatigued]

I think that this belongs on your “Another reason to homeschool” list.

[EDINVA]

In today’s PC culture, it starts earlier than high school. When my sons were 3 years old (20 years ago), they were playing in the yard with some toy guns .. a neighbor flatly refused to let his kid so much as touch the toy gun and indicated there was something wrong with me for letting mine use them. One of those tsk tsk moments.

Seemed to me that there really is a more aggressive gene in males and might as well let them take out that aggression with toy guns at a young age. My sons also fought incessantly with each other. Now, each can handle himself and his aggression in any tense/conflict situation quite well without snapping or resorting to violence.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Bullying. Bull.
The libs want to blame it on everything but the right thing. A demented time-bomb which should have been in an institution with locked doors.
The normal students were, in my opinion, scared to death to report the creep or to say anything, for fear of being called racist. The administrators were afraid to do anything. So because of PC, people died.

[Oztrich Boy]

He was also a muslim.

Look stay off the goofballs, they screw up your brain Mkay?

[smug]

Searching for reasons like "the bullies made him do it" is just another liberal Godless methodology of transferring blame.

Remember; when every one is to blame no one is at fault, therefore I can act in any manner I choose. And we will all not hold each other to ridicule, unless you are a Conservative or President Bush.

[RC2]

Young boys grow up a lot faster if you allow that aggression.....even though it’s minimal....to come out at a young age while playing games. They learn how to handle it just by playing cowboys and Indians. Good parents watch them and lead them in a correct direction. Even as kids, we were taught to not point a gun at anyone. Although when playing, you had to point it at “someone” but the idea of what our parents said, was always on our minds.

As you said, the “PC” trys to control your every move. Kids need to be taught how to be an individual and at the same time how to fit in with the people around them. This feel good all the time is a bunch of crap. Failure is part of life you we will fail at times. Best education in the world and there’s nothing wrong with feeling bad about failure. Learn from it, just as we did in a scrap with another boy. Same thing in sports. Loosing is a good lesson in more ways than one.

[ketsu]

This is a good point.

The current “anti-violence” campaign in the schools actually promotes bullying. Bullies know how to provoke and play the system. When someone who’s bullied fights back *they* become the bad guy. This gives bullies free reign because the bullied have no recourse.

[Condor51]

Here's my take on all the 'Bullying' claptrap from the fruitcake psycho 'experts' - Bullsh*t. Political Correctness is the root cause of the problems.

Everyone gets ' bullied' at one time or another as a kid or teen. The problem is the PC bs response not to fight back, not to defend yourself (let's talk and have a group hug).

Bullies are basically cowards. They're bullies when the have backup or are bigger (older). But tell them to 'pound sand' or give them a fight - just once. Even if you get you butt handed to you, odds are they will never mess with you again. They're looking for an easy mark, not someone who will cause them problems.

Caveat; yeah there are the psycho's like Cho who should be in a padded cell but he can't be put there because the PC mopes closed all the nut houses because the nuts have 'rights'. That's working out real well, isn't it.

[MSSC6644]

This trying to search for reasons is just one more sign of how wimpy we are becoming.

And then there's the man can control everything idea. If we know what caused this, we can stop it. Liberals refuse to recognize that man is a creature. He is not God. Only God can create. We are evidence of that. Man can screw it up or he can elevate it, but he can never completely control what God has given us.

There is no humility in being a Liberal/Socialist. There is no acknowlegement of Truth and very little of reality. That's why the "science" of psychology is so important to them. The behavior of human beings will never be consistent because of free will and because of genetics. I don't understand why they can't get that.