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Abortion: why it’s the ultimate motherly act -barf alert!
The Times Online ^ | April 13, 2007 | Caitlin Moran

Posted on 05/05/2007 2:32:57 PM PDT by Baladas

Our columnist, who has opted to have a termination since the birth of her two children, argues that it is a moral duty not to bring unwanted offspring into the world:

On Wednesday, More4 broadcast Travels with My Camera — A Matter of Life and Death, a “personal journey” by the journalist Miranda Sawyer. This was heralded by a piece in The Observer, written by Sawyer, explaining the purpose of her quest.

Sawyer’s dilemma has been that, until recently, she had been a dyed-in-the-wool, card-carrying, pro-choice feminist. After the birth of her son last year, however, she began to have doubts about the ethics and logic of abortion. “I was calling the life inside me a baby because I wanted it,” she wrote, after visiting picketed abortion clinics in America. “Yet if I hadn’t, I would think of it just as a group of cells that it was OK to kill. It was the same entity. It was merely my response to it that determined whether it would live or die. That seemed irrational to me. Maybe even immoral.”

Later she explained that: “When you’ve experienced . . . pregnancy and birth, and the fantastic beauty of the resulting child, it’s hard not to question what a termination does, or is.”

It’s odd, because, since I had children, I’ve found myself becoming much less troubled by the pro-life argument. Of course, that echoes that old, black-humoured mum joke, often heard in playgrounds on wintry February afternoons — “What do you think should be the cut-off point for terminations?” “I dunno. Secondary school?” — but also reflects how many issues still remain within the abortion debate.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 40yearsofliberalism; abortion; abotion; cultureofdeath; dementalillness; mefirsters; mirandasawyer; molech; moloch; moralabsolutes; moraldecline; morallybankrupt; prolife; rationalization
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To: Baladas
Our columnist, who has opted to have a termination since the birth of her two children, argues that it is a moral duty not to bring unwanted offspring into the world:

This is reprehensible, disgusting. Do I hear the sound of hobnailed boots outside? 'Our columnist' forgets that some unwanted children are wanted at birth, and the mothers only later change their minds. What then if they become a 'burden' or unwanted after birth? At age one, five, ten. What then is the moral duty? Are we to believe that the life of another has whatever value we attach to it, like a balance sheet, a snapshot of a particular day and time.

“What do you think should be the cut-off point for terminations?” “I dunno. Secondary school?”

But I see they already 'joke' about it. How easily the talk of terminating a life comes for them, even after they see the little lives entrusted to them.

41 posted on 05/05/2007 6:33:54 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My computer is back!)
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To: Baladas
Barf indeed - narcissistically examining their navels while marveling over their own degenerate chatter...

Ask any of them if she regrets that their mother didn’t abort her...Ask any of them if their son or daughter, should they have any, have "the right to choose" when their mother becomes aged and "a bother"

Ask them if society doesn't have a right to choose when they become aged and "a bother"...

42 posted on 05/05/2007 7:22:23 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: Baladas

I’ve always said - it is futile to debate with a guilty conscience.


43 posted on 05/05/2007 11:24:11 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: sgtbono2002
“What a putz, may she remember this child to the end of her days.”

That child will certainly remember her at the end of days...

44 posted on 05/05/2007 11:37:06 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Baladas
Abortion: why it’s the ultimate motherly act

Abortion is just the start of a "dog eat dog" mentality. If someone gets in the way of your living an "ideal" life...kill them.

Pro-aborts think it's okay to kill humans in the womb.
Princeton Prof Peter Singer thinks it's okay to kill infants who have been out of the womb for weeks.
Cho thought it was okay to kill adults.

45 posted on 05/06/2007 5:57:29 AM PDT by syriacus (Dems removed our troops too soon from S. Korea. 30,000 US troops died in 30 mos to RE-WIN SK freedom)
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To: GreenThumb420
I believe that when this girl has a child one day, when she is successful, it will be a reasonable sacrifice

Alert.... Alert....Alert

Don't go mountain climbing or sky-diving with her.

In a tough situation she might decide you are expendable.

46 posted on 05/06/2007 6:05:11 AM PDT by syriacus (Dems removed our troops too soon from S. Korea. 30,000 US troops died in 30 mos to RE-WIN SK freedom)
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To: Westbrook
This is a joke that tells the truth of the selfish mum mindset...

Of course, that echoes that old, black-humoured mum joke, often heard in playgrounds on wintry February afternoons — “What do you think should be the cut-off point for terminations?” “I dunno. Secondary school?”

It ain't about life, freedom, protection, fairness, or anything else and it certainly isn't about the sanctity of the womb. It is about what the woman WANTS and inconvenience isn't it. Too stupid to use birth control or to pull herself out of the gene pool by seeking sterilization...

47 posted on 05/06/2007 7:13:29 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Baladas

What total BS! I was married to a woman who had an abortion
and I can tell you, it left deep mental scars.


48 posted on 05/06/2007 8:29:00 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: CCGuy

Conveniently overlooking the illogic that her “unwanted offspring” would be eagerly adopted and loved by someone else. I would guess she would not dare to cover the waiting lists and travails of couples waiting to adopt “unwanted offspring”.


49 posted on 05/06/2007 8:44:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: LiteKeeper

“I would like to see a time when abortion is considered an intelligent, logical, humble, compassionate thing to do.”

Sweetie, you are living in those times. They are you.


50 posted on 05/06/2007 8:47:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: mtntop3

Yeah, I wondered about her two surviving daughters, which she barely mentions except to whine what a burden “it” was since she didn’t abort “it”. I wonder what they’ll think when they read this article one day:

“I’m not being flippant when I say it took me longer to decide what work-tops to have in the kitchen than whether I was prepared to spend the rest of my life being responsible for a further human being.”

I, I, I, me, me, me


51 posted on 05/06/2007 1:46:20 PM PDT by Baladas
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