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Stone case may set tone for Haditha prosecutions [Capt. Randy W. Stone, Article 32]
North County Times ^ | May 5, 2007 | MARK WALKER

Posted on 05/06/2007 4:57:38 AM PDT by RedRover

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For more information, see this thread: Haditha Article 32: Capt. Randy W. Stone

Also, see this recent thread: Propaganda Fear Cited in Account of Iraqi Killings

1 posted on 05/06/2007 4:57:43 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover

Unbelieveable how low the Marine Corps has sunk with this episode. Has there ever been a more determined witch hunt where the MC tries to destroy its own? This is being pushed by someone in the highest levels of the Corps or Navy, otherwise we would have never gotten to this sorry point.


2 posted on 05/06/2007 5:01:28 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Rest of the Story, My bad that this didnt print with the first part.)
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To: RedRover
Haditha may forever -- fairly or not -- be synonymous with war crimes.

MSM and our history profs will see to that.

3 posted on 05/06/2007 5:04:32 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: 4woodenboats; aculeus; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...
Ping!

4 posted on 05/06/2007 5:13:14 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover

the way is clear. When a war begins, the first course of action should be impound all the lawyers.

Lawyers second guessing commanders is ludicrous.


5 posted on 05/06/2007 5:24:19 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Reid must go)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

You got it, Bulldawg. Someone (maybe high up at the DoD, judging from all the leaks) wants to tame the Corps. At risk is the very nature of an aggressive fighting force, trained to always take the fight to the enemy. No offense to the Army, but they are not trained for the kind of fight that cleared Fallujah in ‘04.


6 posted on 05/06/2007 5:24:46 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: arthurus

A movie based on the battle of Fallujah is set for release in 08 (with Harrison Ford as Gen. Mattis). I don’t have any inside info, but grumblings have started that it will be the usual leftist twaddle.


7 posted on 05/06/2007 5:31:39 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover

It isnt the trial that I am interested in,its the verdict. Not Guilty.

The person that should be on trial is Murtha.


8 posted on 05/06/2007 5:37:14 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: bert

Can you imagine a lawyer following Patton or Bradley around Europe? I don’t understand how anyone thinks lawyers contribute to the only thing that matters—winning by destroying the enemy’s will to fight.


9 posted on 05/06/2007 5:45:05 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: sgtbono2002

Amen to that.


10 posted on 05/06/2007 5:47:40 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover

Yes, it does appear someone(s) is pushing an agenda with the Haditha cases. Another incident happened in Ishaqi(sp?) close to the same time that Haditha was coming out. Similar incident of civilians, Iraqis claiming they were murdered without cause, may have even been some video. Someone in charge in the Marines shut the investigation down, but quick. An initial investigation was done, found no wrong-doing and NCIS was denied their own investigation {even though they said they would like to do one}. You don’t remember this incident now. The only reason I think NCIS was brought into Haditha was to create a case for charges. Without NCIS, no charges.


11 posted on 05/06/2007 5:58:58 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

ping


12 posted on 05/06/2007 5:59:09 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: RedRover

Get the lawyers the hell out of there.What a bunch of feather merchants.


13 posted on 05/06/2007 5:59:56 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: RedRover

This investigation was the responsibility of the battalion, regimental, and divsion commander. If they failed to properly investigate, then they should be so charged, not some staff officer. The ultimate outcome of all of this will be the assignment of lawyers at all levels of command serving as political officers, undermining the commander and challenging his judgment, authority, and credibility. This will mean the end of the military.


14 posted on 05/06/2007 6:39:41 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: RedRover
"Thad Coakley,... helped establish the system that puts lawyers such as Stone with combat battalions in war zones."

Doesn't this really say it all. How can our combat troops win anything if they have lawyers in combat battalions looking over their shoulders.

15 posted on 05/06/2007 7:12:51 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: All; RedRover
If you would like to help with the civilian lawyer’s legal fees for the
Haditha Marines you can do so by going to these sites.

Defend Our Marines

Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt

SSgt. Frank Wuterich

Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani

Marine Defense Fund


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16 posted on 05/06/2007 7:20:05 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: centurion316

Too bad the enemy doesn’t get their own set of lawyers, too. Then each side could just sue each other over grievances and skip the combat part of war. /sarc


17 posted on 05/06/2007 7:30:47 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: RedRover

This bothers me on so many levels that I just don’t know where to start... PC warfare run amok - lawyers overseeing decisions made in the heat of battle - the transparent attempt to use the Haditha incident as a propaganda tool for all the hate America Socialist antiwar cretins since Abu Ghraib didn’t make us cut and run...

I would say what I would like to do to Murtha and his ilk but I’m too much of a lady (plus I don’t want to get banned)


18 posted on 05/06/2007 8:19:18 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Dems Suffer From Iraq-naphobia)
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To: RedRover

The one good thing that I found out about that movie is that it is based on Bing West’s book “No True Glory”. Bing West and his son (who served in Iraq) are writing the screenplay. That said - who knows what hollyweird will do with it from there...


19 posted on 05/06/2007 9:12:30 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Dems Suffer From Iraq-naphobia)
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To: Girlene

That is precisely how the Democrats intend to fight the War on Terror. The John Edwards, Janet Reno’s, and Madeline Albright’s of the world will sue them into submission.


20 posted on 05/06/2007 9:15:47 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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